# Utari's Puppies (Formerly Off-Topic Thread) **URL:** \ **Category:** Intergalactic Summit\ **Created:** [June 21, 2017, 6:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/utaris-puppies-formerly-off-topic-thread/5128 "2017-06-21T18:18:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 23
**Author:** ![Diana\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/diana_kim/32/382972_2.png) [@Diana\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Diana_Kim)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2018, 4:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/utaris-puppies-formerly-off-topic-thread/5128/460 "2018-01-19T04:17:04Z")
> [@Tannia\_Ambrye](#): > > Something something special. Something something snowflake. > > Right wing play book? If a phenomenon takes place in gallente politics, it doesn’t mean it can be applied in the civilized world, or the rest of the Cluster. ---
**Author:** ![Halcyon\_Ember](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/halcyon_ember/32/131702_2.png) [@Halcyon\_Ember](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Halcyon_Ember)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2018, 8:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/utaris-puppies-formerly-off-topic-thread/5128/461 "2018-01-19T08:51:49Z")
> [@Jev\_North](#): > > I’ve been trying to keep the urge to snark down But Jevinkalaia, I miss your snark. ---
**Author:** ![Halcyon\_Ember](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/halcyon_ember/32/131702_2.png) [@Halcyon\_Ember](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Halcyon_Ember)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2018, 8:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/utaris-puppies-formerly-off-topic-thread/5128/462 "2018-01-19T08:53:45Z")
> [@Charles\_Cambridge\_Schmidt](#): > > Very few people here are interested in solving problems. Solving problems requires cooperation, which is difficult when so many have such large egos. I’m certain you understand that concept, Charles. ---
**Author:** ![Halcyon\_Ember](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/halcyon_ember/32/131702_2.png) [@Halcyon\_Ember](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Halcyon_Ember)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2018, 2:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/utaris-puppies-formerly-off-topic-thread/5128/463 "2018-01-19T14:41:30Z")
> [@A Thread Of Kind Words](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-thread-of-kind-words/7963/199): > > It seems like that argument might have cost me your friendship, There’s only a few people who have genuinely lost my friendship. You’re welcome to visit me if you wish and we can at least share some chocolate. ---
**Author:** ![Aria\_Jenneth](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aria_jenneth/32/469792_2.png) [@Aria\_Jenneth](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aria_Jenneth)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2018, 2:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/utaris-puppies-formerly-off-topic-thread/5128/464 "2018-01-19T14:44:59Z")
That’s a kind offer. Maybe I will. It does seem like I did lose something. … although, out of all the things you could have argued with about that post, this is a pretty pleasant one, so, maybe not completely? ---
**Author:** ![Halcyon\_Ember](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/halcyon_ember/32/131702_2.png) [@Halcyon\_Ember](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Halcyon_Ember)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2018, 2:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/utaris-puppies-formerly-off-topic-thread/5128/465 "2018-01-19T14:45:56Z")
I’m not right as often as I would like, but usually more often than others are comfortable with. ---
**Author:** ![Charles\_Cambridge\_Schmidt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/charles_cambridge_schmidt/32/372217_2.png) [@Charles\_Cambridge\_Schmidt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Charles_Cambridge_Schmidt)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2018, 8:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/utaris-puppies-formerly-off-topic-thread/5128/466 "2018-01-19T20:27:15Z")
> [@Halcyon\_Ember](#): > > Solving problems requires cooperation, which is difficult when so many have such large egos. I’m certain you understand that concept, Charles. My ‘ego’ is a superficial satirical take on Capsuleers as a whole in addition to the fundamental problems that Federal society and culture has not only with hedonistic tendencies but also high-horse galavanting to ‘save’ people. It’s not my fault you can’t see through that. Learn to critique and hate yourself more instead of making idiotic, blithe commentary in an attempt to seem like you’re anything other than obnoxious. TIA ---
**Author:** ![Tannia\_Ambrye](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tannia_ambrye/32/410653_2.png) [@Tannia\_Ambrye](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tannia_Ambrye)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2018, 8:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/utaris-puppies-formerly-off-topic-thread/5128/467 "2018-01-19T20:32:24Z")
> [@Charles\_Cambridge\_Schmidt](#): > > My ‘ego’ is a superficial satirical take on Capsuleers as a whole in addition to the fundamental problems that Federal society and culture has not only with hedonistic tendencies but also high-horse galavanting to ‘save’ people. Satirical comedy defense noted. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Charles\_Cambridge\_Schmidt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/charles_cambridge_schmidt/32/372217_2.png) [@Charles\_Cambridge\_Schmidt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Charles_Cambridge_Schmidt)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2018, 8:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/utaris-puppies-formerly-off-topic-thread/5128/468 "2018-01-19T20:33:54Z")
> [@Tannia\_Ambrye](#): > > Satirical comedy defense noted. 😉 Hold a spot in the irrelevant peanut gallery for me if I ever get there, okay? ---
**Author:** ![Tannia\_Ambrye](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tannia_ambrye/32/410653_2.png) [@Tannia\_Ambrye](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tannia_Ambrye)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2018, 8:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/utaris-puppies-formerly-off-topic-thread/5128/469 "2018-01-19T20:36:39Z")
> [@Charles\_Cambridge\_Schmidt](#): > > Hold a spot in the irrelevant peanut gallery for me if I ever get there, okay? Why? You’re there seated beside me right now, Mr. Schmidt. ---
**Author:** ![Kalaratiri](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kalaratiri/32/477189_2.png) [@Kalaratiri](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kalaratiri)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2018, 9:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/utaris-puppies-formerly-off-topic-thread/5128/470 "2018-01-19T21:11:15Z")
Nobody here is relevant. Genuine “relevance” is a title that less than 20 people alive can currently claim. Probably only 2 to 3 of those people are independent capsuleers. > [@Charles\_Cambridge\_Schmidt](#): > > My ‘ego’ is a superficial satirical take on Capsuleers as a whole Well, if you can’t love yourself you might as well laugh. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2018, 9:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/utaris-puppies-formerly-off-topic-thread/5128/471 "2018-01-19T21:18:17Z")
Relevance is situational and subjective. For example, if we’re discussing the Drifters and ongoing developments with them, Makoto’s relevant. If we’re discussing military buildup in the CEWPA warzones, less so. ---
**Author:** ![Teinyhr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/teinyhr/32/374406_2.png) [@Teinyhr](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Teinyhr)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2018, 9:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/utaris-puppies-formerly-off-topic-thread/5128/472 "2018-01-19T21:33:10Z")
If there’s anything more important than my ego around here, I want it caught and shot right now. ---
**Author:** ![Kalaratiri](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kalaratiri/32/477189_2.png) [@Kalaratiri](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kalaratiri)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2018, 9:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/utaris-puppies-formerly-off-topic-thread/5128/473 "2018-01-19T21:40:03Z")
I totally agree. I was however referring more to the endless journey many capsuleers find themselves on in pursuit of the much more ephemeral _relevance_. Of being somebody. A name, a reputation, a _fan club_. I’ve seen very, very, few capsuleers actually achieve it in the last eight years, and more than a couple drive themselves mad in the attempt. I’ve even done my best to help some of the more obnoxious ones take the non-stop train to retirement. It’s kinder, in the long run. ---
**Author:** ![Charles\_Cambridge\_Schmidt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/charles_cambridge_schmidt/32/372217_2.png) [@Charles\_Cambridge\_Schmidt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Charles_Cambridge_Schmidt)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2018, 9:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/utaris-puppies-formerly-off-topic-thread/5128/474 "2018-01-19T21:51:57Z")
> [@Teinyhr](#): > > If there’s anything more important than my ego around here, I want it caught and shot right now. That’s the spirit. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2018, 1:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/utaris-puppies-formerly-off-topic-thread/5128/475 "2018-01-20T01:47:26Z")
Eh, there are some here who are fairly well-known and influential within their own circles. Makoto, Mitara, and Jin’taan come to mind as examples (not that Jin’taan wastes much time _here_). But relevance in that regard… that’s not something you chase. It comes to those who _do_ things. If you’re _trying_ for it… you shouldn’t have it, and probably won’t. ---
**Author:** ![Halcyon\_Ember](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/halcyon_ember/32/131702_2.png) [@Halcyon\_Ember](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Halcyon_Ember)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2018, 6:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/utaris-puppies-formerly-off-topic-thread/5128/476 "2018-01-20T18:39:18Z")
Why should I hate myself when I have people like you around to criticise and poke holes without actually doing anything constructive themselves, Charles? When you do anything actually worth a damn I’ll take your commentary more seriously. Until then you just sit around telling everyone how pretty you are and making adorable little outfits and pretending your opinion has any relevance to anything. ---
**Author:** ![Charles\_Cambridge\_Schmidt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/charles_cambridge_schmidt/32/372217_2.png) [@Charles\_Cambridge\_Schmidt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Charles_Cambridge_Schmidt)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2018, 9:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/utaris-puppies-formerly-off-topic-thread/5128/477 "2018-01-20T21:34:20Z")
> [@Kalaratiri](#): > > Nobody here is relevant. > [@Arrendis](#): > > Relevance is situational and subjective. For the record, I didn’t mean it in some grand scheme of super duper hyper relevance or whatever else; it was just with respect to the conversation at hand and, generally, the conversations they inject themselves into. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2018, 9:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/utaris-puppies-formerly-off-topic-thread/5128/478 "2018-01-20T21:42:14Z")
Considering it’s a public conversation on a public forum in a literal ‘Off-Topic Thread’, I’d say anyone participating is relevant with respect to the conversation at hand, and the very concept of ‘injecting yourself’ into _public discourse_ is fallacious. ---
**Author:** ![Charles\_Cambridge\_Schmidt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/charles_cambridge_schmidt/32/372217_2.png) [@Charles\_Cambridge\_Schmidt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Charles_Cambridge_Schmidt)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2018, 9:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/utaris-puppies-formerly-off-topic-thread/5128/479 "2018-01-20T21:52:35Z")
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