# Utari's Puppies (Formerly Off-Topic Thread) **URL:** \ **Category:** Intergalactic Summit\ **Created:** [June 21, 2017, 6:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/utaris-puppies-formerly-off-topic-thread/5128 "2017-06-21T18:18:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 2670
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2019, 6:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/utaris-puppies-formerly-off-topic-thread/5128/2670 "2019-02-07T06:27:52Z")
No, I didn’t. I questioned the chain of responses you’ve offered in this thread, which included > [@Teinyhr](#): > > I agree with about a post that included this bit: > [@Kalaratiri](#): > > This is my real issue then. We’ve seen what happens when Alizabeth Vea is allowed to live her life by her own rules. We’ve seen the end point of her path. She’s just lucky(?) enough to have been able to skip back a few steps on that road. That doesn’t mean she’s a different person, it doesn’t mean she’s actually changed. > > She’s still Alizabeth Vea, she’s just being shepherded by people confident or foolish enough to think they can guide her to a different end point. and > [@Kalaratiri](#): > > Unfortunately, she doesn’t get to rewrite the impression she has made just to suit her. She may not _wish_ to be reminded of that part of herself, but she damn well _deserves_ to be. And yeah. Insisting that everyone else should be holding her to account for crap she never did in the first place, just because someone else did it who wore the same face… that’s a call for mob justice from the Cartel hypocrite that you’re agreeing with. At least, that’s how it reads to me. Like I said in the ndokassi discussion: > [@On the ndokassi discovery - who do you think has jurisdiction?](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-ndokassi-discovery-who-do-you-think-has-jurisdiction/135889/69): > > the onus to convey our intentions is upon the speaker, not the listener --- _[View the full topic](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/utaris-puppies-formerly-off-topic-thread/5128)._