# Utari's Puppies (Formerly Off-Topic Thread)

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**Category:** Intergalactic Summit\
**Created:** [June 21, 2017, 6:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/utaris-puppies-formerly-off-topic-thread/5128 "2017-06-21T18:18:18Z")\
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**Author:** ![Diana\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/diana_kim/32/382972_2.png) [@Diana\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Diana_Kim)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2019, 4:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/utaris-puppies-formerly-off-topic-thread/5128/3642 "2019-07-03T04:27:48Z")

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> [@Proposals Regarding Wrecks and Cargo Containers Containing Living Persons](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/proposals-regarding-wrecks-and-cargo-containers-containing-living-persons/158164/15):
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> He’s a Navy veteran, from the same planet as me, and a commoner who went completely insane over quite a few issues. That must have been related to someone under him and Minmatar by blood, maybe, a slave crew member during his service. And, yeah, he’s certainly isn’t a Holder of any kind.

Aren’t capsuleers considered almost as Holders in the Empire? I had this feeling somehow.

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