# Vanguard and the fundamental issue with it

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**Created:** [January 26, 2024, 2:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vanguard-and-the-fundamental-issue-with-it/437470 "2024-01-26T14:14:23Z")\
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> [@Elinore\_en\_Divalone](#):
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> 51 PLEX for 4 days

Fair enough, that does sound accurate. Regardless, the amount of investment was fairly low, so the ability for people to even buy plex from the in game market and join in was going to skew the results.

> [@Elinore\_en\_Divalone](#):
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> raw playtest game data by CCP London, not from omega time purchased.

Right, but in order to access the test, you have to have Omega. The point I was making is it was cheaper to access it last test. Which means, the numbers will likely be much lower than they would be otherwise. And that’s on top of a likely drop purely from the fact that nothing from the player’s perspective has changed (just bug crushing and back end stuff.)

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