# Vastly more productive High-Sec Ganking thread **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [March 12, 2026, 3:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vastly-more-productive-high-sec-ganking-thread/508119 "2026-03-12T03:47:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2026, 6:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vastly-more-productive-high-sec-ganking-thread/508119/123 "2026-03-15T18:17:10Z")
> [@blemmin](#): > > the forums are full of people with ideas and suggestions that they believe would make the game better You mean the endless alts with no sign of activity for 10 years ? Or in your case, no sign of ever having logged in at all. What would these people who have barely discovered the ‘Undock’ button once in 10 years even know about the game that would warrant them making any useful comment ? ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2026, 6:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vastly-more-productive-high-sec-ganking-thread/508119/124 "2026-03-15T18:21:14Z")
> [@Syzygium](#): > > Have you ever ran a professional ganking crew to make such a statement, or are you just guessing? It’s just another alt with zero indication of ever having logged in and played the game. He’s never done ganking, or ever even experienced it…..yet somehow he is an expert on the subject ! ---
**Author:** ![blemmin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/blemmin/32/493006_2.png) [@blemmin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/blemmin)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2026, 6:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vastly-more-productive-high-sec-ganking-thread/508119/125 "2026-03-15T18:23:16Z")
> [@Gloria\_Exercitus](#): > > You mean the endless alts with no sign of activity for 10 years ? Or in your case, no sign of ever having logged in at all. What would these people who have barely discovered the ‘Undock’ button once in 10 years even know about the game that would warrant them making any useful comment ? there is no end to the hearsay of this question cuase like me most if not all of them post from an alt. so there is no evidence that the people posting dont have experience in the game or that they dont undock. so you can go back and forth on this if you want but im not going to. ---
**Author:** ![blemmin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/blemmin/32/493006_2.png) [@blemmin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/blemmin)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2026, 6:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vastly-more-productive-high-sec-ganking-thread/508119/126 "2026-03-15T18:25:04Z")
> [@Gloria\_Exercitus](#): > > It’s just another alt with zero indication of ever having logged in and played the game. He’s never done ganking, or ever even experienced it…..yet somehow he is an expert on the subject ! never said i was an expert, i just know whats right and whats wrong in my eyes and i had an idea but having a suggestion on game change some how makes you mad, thats ok be mad ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2026, 6:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vastly-more-productive-high-sec-ganking-thread/508119/127 "2026-03-15T18:32:44Z")
> [@blemmin](#): > > there is no end to the hearsay of this question cuase like me most if not all of them post from an alt. so there is no evidence that the people posting dont have experience in the game or that they dont undock. so you can go back and forth on this if you want but im not going to. Well…isn’t it odd how all the people who actually log in and PLAY the game on a regular basis have consistent appearances under chars that have demonstrably played the game regularly……whilst all the _whiners_ log in under chars that have either never undocked or not done so in 5 or 10 years. How is it that only the whiners need to ‘hide my main’ ? Or is it not more eminently likely that they are posting under alts that have done sod all for the simple reason that they _have_ done sod all ! ---
**Author:** ![blemmin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/blemmin/32/493006_2.png) [@blemmin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/blemmin)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2026, 6:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vastly-more-productive-high-sec-ganking-thread/508119/128 "2026-03-15T18:35:50Z")
> [@Gloria\_Exercitus](#): > > whilst all the _whiners_ log in under chars that have either never undocked or not done so in 5 or 10 years. no body is whining but you, having ideas is not whining or crying. ---
**Author:** ![Dark\_Lord\_Trump](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dark_lord_trump/32/411482_2.png) [@Dark\_Lord\_Trump](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dark_Lord_Trump)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2026, 6:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vastly-more-productive-high-sec-ganking-thread/508119/129 "2026-03-15T18:49:43Z")
> [@blemmin](#): > > -2 status means you are not able to dock in any high sec NPC stations Seems rather harsh for only -2. > [@blemmin](#): > > -4 status means you can no longer dock in any low sec NPC stations (empire aligned ) You do realize that doing stuff in lowsec affects your sec status too, right? It’s not just a gank-o-meter. > [@blemmin](#): > > -6 status you’re labeled a high priority criminal and anyone is able to shoot/kill you without penalty Congratulations, you’ve just invented -5 sec status. > [@blemmin](#): > > -8 status you’re labeled an extremist, the empire navies and concord actively hunt you while youre out in space (.5 or above) showing up where you are if uncloaked or motionless Congratulations, you’ve just invented the faction police. > [@blemmin](#): > > -10 status the corp you’re in becomes war-decable no matter what Awesome, so now any new player could be a spy alt who’s going to start a smartbomb party at Jita and get you wardecced. There’s a reason for the war eligibility changes. ---
**Author:** ![blemmin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/blemmin/32/493006_2.png) [@blemmin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/blemmin)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2026, 7:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vastly-more-productive-high-sec-ganking-thread/508119/130 "2026-03-15T19:04:56Z")
> [@Dark\_Lord\_Trump](#): > > Seems rather harsh for only -2. the original poster made the same comment on these suggestions being too harsh, and a discussion was had about that with other ideas on what could be adjusted. > [@Dark\_Lord\_Trump](#): > > You do realize that doing stuff in lowsec affects your sec status too, right? It’s not just a gank-o-meter. yea if sec status effected your docking with them in empire their establishments in non empire would be counted as well. and to the other things that effect the status well, we were talking about high sec ganking and suggestions on what people thought, if we taking into account other actions i guess my answer to that would be the typical answer given to anyone who questions something like that and just be “oh well, figure out how to be a criminal in a better way” any implementation on anything especially the half thought up ideas ive come up with would take major tweaking but tahts for the game maker people to figure out > [@Dark\_Lord\_Trump](#): > > Congratulations, you’ve just invented -5 sec status. thanks, im glad you appreciate it the reinvention > [@Dark\_Lord\_Trump](#): > > Congratulations, you’ve just invented the faction police. isnt that what they are suppose to be? > [@Dark\_Lord\_Trump](#): > > Awesome, so now any new player could be a spy alt who’s going to start a smartbomb party at Jita and get you wardecced. There’s a reason for the war eligibility changes. again, just like we get a warning if someone declares war you would know ahead of time, and it seems people are perfectly fine with greifing and cause headaches for people unless its headaches for them so this would just be another “way to play the game” ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2026, 7:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vastly-more-productive-high-sec-ganking-thread/508119/132 "2026-03-15T19:19:15Z")
> [@blemmin](#): > > nope have not, but all in all getting 4 or 5 catalysts together to go pop a hulk doesnt seem like a lot work. Why the hell would a Hulk be destroyed by only 5 Catalysts? It should take way more than that. Just for fun! I don’t have my own Hulk outfitted like this, but I wanted to play with the simulator: No implants needed. [Hulk, Max Yield and Max Shield] Mining Laser Upgrade II Mining Laser Upgrade II Mining Laser Upgrade II Dread Guristas Multispectrum Shield Hardener Dread Guristas Multispectrum Shield Hardener Dread Guristas Multispectrum Shield Hardener Medium Shield Extender II Modulated Strip Miner II Modulated Strip Miner II Medium Processor Overclocking Unit I Medium Core Defense Field Extender II Ubiquitous Moon Mining Crystal Type B II x4 ---
**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/510263_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2026, 7:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vastly-more-productive-high-sec-ganking-thread/508119/133 "2026-03-15T19:33:07Z")
> [@blemmin](#): > > nope have not Then you are in company with all those other “ganking needs to be fixed” people. None of them has actually any idea how to run that business professionally. You all just see those 20 seconds when the kill happens. You totally ignore the fact that it is one thing to just throw away 5 Catalysts one time and then move on with your business, but something entirely different to set up a logistics chain that constantly supplies you with new ships, people produce those ships to minimize costs, they haul those ships to the staging stations. They fit the ships, people maintain buy- and sell-orders to get the equipment cheaply and sell the loot profitable. Chars need to rotate to lowsec to exchange tags. Scouts and Scanners need to spend hours looking for attractive targets. In belts, other chars need to make good warpins. And.. and and… there is SO much more attached to running such a business professionally or just doing one gank once in a while. And while a group of people spend time and effort to actually _professionalize_, solving all problems on the way, you people just bathe in ignorance and just demand “punishments”. The reason why gankers win most of the time is _NOT_ that there is a design issue or there is any kind of _problem_. The reason is that they _act professionally_ while their targets do not. ---
**Author:** ![Tessa\_Springfield](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tessa_springfield/32/494841_2.png) [@Tessa\_Springfield](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tessa_Springfield)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2026, 7:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vastly-more-productive-high-sec-ganking-thread/508119/134 "2026-03-15T19:46:36Z")
Guys, Gals. Some of you are taking this from a Vastly more producting High-Sec Ganking thread to just merely slightly more productive. Let’s simmer down some and have meaningful conversation. Please. Thank you. ---
**Author:** ![blemmin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/blemmin/32/493006_2.png) [@blemmin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/blemmin)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2026, 8:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vastly-more-productive-high-sec-ganking-thread/508119/135 "2026-03-15T20:01:49Z")
yes please ---
**Author:** ![blemmin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/blemmin/32/493006_2.png) [@blemmin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/blemmin)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2026, 8:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vastly-more-productive-high-sec-ganking-thread/508119/136 "2026-03-15T20:10:12Z")
i get 57,685 ehp on that fit, which would be about 5 catalysts in a .5 system i believe ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2026, 8:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vastly-more-productive-high-sec-ganking-thread/508119/137 "2026-03-15T20:22:04Z")
You should train Thermodynamics to level 5. I get 72,136 EHP when I overheat the shields. Also, that’s SOLO. No one should ever fly a Hulk Solo. If you combine that with an Orca, you’ll get shield buffs, remote shield repair, and 2 heavy shield rep drones. Add all of that to 72,136 EHP and you’re around 90,000 shields and getting massive shield repair. It is a Hulk that cannot be ganked. ---
**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/510263_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2026, 9:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vastly-more-productive-high-sec-ganking-thread/508119/138 "2026-03-15T21:34:22Z")
Sounds like enough HP to not get easily killed by some stranger that just comes along to blow you up. The moment you notice 5-6 unknown chars simultaneously entering your system you should already align out and hit the Dscan for a few seconds to see if those newcomers are maybe coming close to your position with ships that could possibly endanger you. And if they do, you just warp out. Pay attention to your environment and a group of gankers will have a very hard time to sneak up on you unnoticed. ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2026, 10:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vastly-more-productive-high-sec-ganking-thread/508119/139 "2026-03-15T22:13:12Z")
If it’s a powerful squad, the Hulk can hide inside the Orca’s Maintenance Bay. No warpout needed. It’s why I don’t fly Hulks solo. ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2026, 10:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vastly-more-productive-high-sec-ganking-thread/508119/140 "2026-03-15T22:18:44Z")
> [@blemmin](#): > > no body is whining but you I am entitled to whine because unlike you I actually play the game regularly and have experience of it. You guys ‘have ideas’ when most of the time you have zero experience of the thing you are having an idea about. You are like people who have never driven a car…’having ideas’ about improvements. Most of you anti-gankers have never either ganked or been ganked….yet you come on here and ‘have ideas’ as if you knew what you were talking about. ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2026, 10:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vastly-more-productive-high-sec-ganking-thread/508119/141 "2026-03-15T22:26:23Z")
> [@Tessa\_Springfield](#): > > Some of you are taking this from a Vastly more producting High-Sec Ganking thread to just merely slightly more productive. Let’s simmer down some and have meaningful conversation. Please. What is your ‘productive’ conversation hoping to ‘produce’ ? The anti-gank whiners add precisely nothing to the game, or to any conversation. There really isn’t anything to discuss, as most of their points are based on nonsense claims and untruths. And there’s already been 316,786 posts _demonstrating_ what nonsense their posts are. I doubt whether after years of that, they are suddenly going to spout something either truthful or meaningful. ---
**Author:** ![Tessa\_Springfield](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tessa_springfield/32/494841_2.png) [@Tessa\_Springfield](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tessa_Springfield)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2026, 10:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vastly-more-productive-high-sec-ganking-thread/508119/142 "2026-03-15T22:26:58Z")
My problem with this whole thing, and why I decided to make this thread; assuming any of these angry folks are actually new players, and not just bitter vets that are bored. They are being afforded a Very generous learning opportunity, and they choose not to take it for what it is. They get angry, they call names, they threaten, but they do not show any gratitude for learning a valuable lesson. Vague comments that are essentially just “prevent me from losing my ship to laziness” have no constructive value at all. I would like to Thank the few people that have shared their ideas concerning this issue. While I am not able to change anything, this has given me some insight to the mentality of people that are willing to engage in good faith, as well as the mentality behind the ones that refuse to. ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2026, 10:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vastly-more-productive-high-sec-ganking-thread/508119/143 "2026-03-15T22:53:33Z")
> [@Gloria\_Exercitus](#): > > The anti-gank whiners add precisely nothing to the game, or to any conversation. Absolutely true! “We hate ganking because there’s no way to survive or avoid it!” **100 posts on how to avoid and survive ganking** “See? Ganking is too easy and there’s no proof of surviving it!” [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vastly-more-productive-high-sec-ganking-thread/508119.md?page=6) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vastly-more-productive-high-sec-ganking-thread/508119.md?page=8)