# Vecamia: Amarr - Jita route **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [February 20, 2024, 12:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vecamia-amarr-jita-route/440186 "2024-02-20T00:15:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Io\_Koval](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/io_koval/32/282426_2.png) [@Io\_Koval](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Io_Koval)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2024, 10:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vecamia-amarr-jita-route/440186/21 "2024-02-21T10:22:45Z")
Yes CCP has bad ideas, like Zarzakh gates and shipcasters. There was a lot of vigorous discussion around these, in addition to ansiblexes (and to a lesser extent cynos), around the perils of geography skipping and greater force projection. So much so that the CSM got involved and CCP decided to „fix“ the issue by doing a hacky bit-flip to enable bubbles in Zarzakh, which clearly does not work at stopping force projection given Frat‘s presence in the south of the map. So after years of discussion around this in both Uprising and Havoc releases, why you would propose _adding yet more_ force projection and geography skipping, can only be summed up to ignorance and not participating in the wider community. It doesn’t matter if I „sound like an AI“, it doesn’t save you from the fact that your bad idea is objectively bad. And that’s not even getting into the highsec angle of your idea, which takes all the problems of the TTT agreement and says „You know what is missing and would be great? All of the problems of highsec Customs Office cartel“. It’s layers of bad ideas just piled up on top of each other into one truly terrible idea. ---
**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/510263_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2024, 10:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vecamia-amarr-jita-route/440186/22 "2024-02-21T10:32:18Z")
Unfortunately today the few people with good arguments need to repeat these over and over again because the flood of stupid ideas got higher than ever. ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2024, 10:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vecamia-amarr-jita-route/440186/23 "2024-02-21T10:33:07Z")
Zarzakh is different, you cant destroy that gate and its not owned by a player. I wrote about player gates in High sec, something sort of like moon mining in high sec. ---
**Author:** ![stefnia\_Freir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/stefnia_freir/32/390048_2.png) [@stefnia\_Freir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/stefnia_Freir)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2024, 1:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vecamia-amarr-jita-route/440186/24 "2024-02-21T13:36:32Z")
because TTT did not harm the game enough yet… ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2024, 1:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vecamia-amarr-jita-route/440186/25 "2024-02-21T13:55:08Z")
I need to get to Amarr sometimes so I can have longer PvP sessions and not some traveling, or some stupid gatecamp. I want actual PvP of honorable variety like bombing capitals with FVBs. So gladly make the route shorter. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![stefnia\_Freir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/stefnia_freir/32/390048_2.png) [@stefnia\_Freir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/stefnia_Freir)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2024, 2:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vecamia-amarr-jita-route/440186/26 "2024-02-21T14:36:08Z")
come one, it only takes 29min 54s using a shuttle 38min 46s using a cruiser. 51min 42s using a BS. You are totally free to choose the transport mode with which you want to hate your life. meanwhile going through Ls it only takes 7min 24s using a shuttle 9min 38s using a cruiser 12min 55s using a BS. If anything, the short route should be increased. ---
**Author:** ![Doctor\_Nijushiho](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/doctor_nijushiho/32/385189_2.png) [@Doctor\_Nijushiho](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Doctor_Nijushiho)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2024, 4:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vecamia-amarr-jita-route/440186/27 "2024-02-21T16:18:05Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > forbid all combat capital ships from low-sec. Would that make capital travel in null more difficult? When I lived there, I used to move my caps through a low sec cub point to reach other parts of null where hostiles were. Without those stations in the jump path, I wouldn’t have risked it. Maybe there is a new mechanic that compensates, but jump fatigue sucks. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2024, 5:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vecamia-amarr-jita-route/440186/28 "2024-02-21T17:06:20Z")
Add a thin ring of NPC null-sec systems at the edge of empire space. There you go, now you have staging systems. ---
**Author:** ![Rocket\_Hellfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rocket_hellfire/32/396905_2.png) [@Rocket\_Hellfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rocket_Hellfire)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2024, 5:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vecamia-amarr-jita-route/440186/29 "2024-02-21T17:35:03Z")
No, it’s not that long. Set destination from Jita \> Hek Then from Hek \> Geth Then Geth \> Amarr. I’m almost positive this is far less than 46 jumps. Been a while since I’ve played… because… meh. ---
**Author:** ![stefnia\_Freir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/stefnia_freir/32/390048_2.png) [@stefnia\_Freir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/stefnia_Freir)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2024, 6:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vecamia-amarr-jita-route/440186/30 "2024-02-21T18:07:30Z")
![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/e/8/7/e87beaeb1efa727022d2b14bee1530be177e9f71.png) ---
**Author:** ![Wes\_Wyhunnan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wes_wyhunnan/32/409400_2.png) [@Wes\_Wyhunnan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wes_Wyhunnan)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2024, 6:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vecamia-amarr-jita-route/440186/31 "2024-02-21T18:24:51Z")
It’s Gheth ---
**Author:** ![stefnia\_Freir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/stefnia_freir/32/390048_2.png) [@stefnia\_Freir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/stefnia_Freir)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2024, 7:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vecamia-amarr-jita-route/440186/32 "2024-02-21T19:02:25Z")
![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/7/5/8/75830c1452e69517fffc091a9618800025e6359e.png) ---
**Author:** ![Rail\_J\_kar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rail_j_kar/32/374429_2.png) [@Rail\_J\_kar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rail_J_kar)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2024, 9:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vecamia-amarr-jita-route/440186/33 "2024-02-21T21:05:23Z")
> [@Rocket\_Hellfire](#): > > I’m almost positive this is far less than 46 jumps. My bad I read it incorrectly. > **[DOTLAN EveMaps: Route: Jita - Amarr](https://evemaps.dotlan.net/route/2:Jita:Amarr)** > > DOTLAN EveMaps is the leading online/interactive map/alliance/corporation resource database for Eve Online Technically 45 jumps… but 46 systems in total. So knock off a single jump from each of those numbers I mentioned earlier. It used to be far shorter, back before the Triglavs took Narja. But that all changed when the Triglav nation attacked. ---
**Author:** ![Rail\_J\_kar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rail_j_kar/32/374429_2.png) [@Rail\_J\_kar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rail_J_kar)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2024, 9:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vecamia-amarr-jita-route/440186/34 "2024-02-21T21:23:09Z")
I’d just like to mention Vecamia has become much more dangerous since I made this thread. You’re all welcome. 😃 Pretty sure it was in the single digits the day I made this thread. ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/6/1/7/61744406fa230d370752606615e9ec7b81c21c9c.png) ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2024, 10:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vecamia-amarr-jita-route/440186/35 "2024-02-21T22:50:28Z")
They can camp both systems all the time, because its still quite short and people will go there. ---
**Author:** ![Princess\_Rose\_Ivory](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/princess_rose_ivory/32/433985_2.png) [@Princess\_Rose\_Ivory](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Princess_Rose_Ivory)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2024, 11:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vecamia-amarr-jita-route/440186/36 "2024-02-21T23:04:45Z")
This is strange. I never had any issues passing through Ahbazon from the Amarr to Jita. I did however lose 2 ships in the Vecamia system. One Apocalypse back on Feb. 9th and a Miasmos back last year Sept. 26th, [from what I see here](https://zkillboard.com/corporation/98744501/). I guess I pay closer attention as to which of those 2 systems are experiencing greater ship loss and activity. The recent loss of the Apocalypse was due to ratting and testing the build. I really didn’t have the speed required to warp away when found there. That date was 10 full days before you created this topic. Have fun! ---
**Author:** ![Rail\_J\_kar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rail_j_kar/32/374429_2.png) [@Rail\_J\_kar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rail_J_kar)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2024, 11:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vecamia-amarr-jita-route/440186/37 "2024-02-21T23:30:54Z")
I was just being a bit tongue and cheek there. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2024, 11:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vecamia-amarr-jita-route/440186/38 "2024-03-09T11:32:33Z")
Isn’t this just topic become more relevant of late , with one of the systems between minmatar and amarr starting to fall to pirate incursions. Unless locals can push it back ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2024, 4:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vecamia-amarr-jita-route/440186/39 "2024-03-10T04:54:40Z")
> [@Rail\_J\_kar](#): > > I’m a retard Indeed. ---
**Author:** ![Yuzima](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yuzima/32/416395_2.png) [@Yuzima](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yuzima)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2024, 9:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vecamia-amarr-jita-route/440186/40 "2024-03-10T09:53:21Z")
> [@Rail\_J\_kar](#): > > A while back I heard some rumors that CCP might be looking into a fix for the Amarr - Jita highsec route I also heard rumor that CCP took out Bounty System **temporarily**. [www.StillWaiting.com](http://www.StillWaiting.com) I wouldn’t hang on rumors around CCP’s upcoming plans. Disappointment guaranteed. > [@Rail\_J\_kar](#): > > if CCP bumped Vecamia up to a 0.5 system, the highsec route would drop from that 46 to 25 Having lowsec systems between Jita and the other trade hubs is kind of the point, I think. Wouldn’t want to make things too easy for the Carebears now would we? [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vecamia-amarr-jita-route/440186.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vecamia-amarr-jita-route/440186.md?page=3)