# Vecamia: Amarr - Jita route **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [February 20, 2024, 12:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vecamia-amarr-jita-route/440186 "2024-02-20T00:15:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![James\_Jesse\_Katelo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/james_jesse_katelo/32/422183_2.png) [@James\_Jesse\_Katelo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/James_Jesse_Katelo)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2024, 4:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vecamia-amarr-jita-route/440186/82 "2024-03-13T16:05:40Z")
Teaching my corp to use poch was a game changer. Everyone was really excited to just be able to go look at null without having to break a gate camp to see it. We’ve been playing for years, and the filaments are making some admit that there is still a lot of the universe that we have not seen, instead of writing the entire space off as “death land that we don’t own”. There is enough information out there on filaments, but nothing in-game to indicate they were a possible form of regional travel. Maybe a small rework of the exploration AiR program to include needlejacking, poch, and thera. Navigation is the first critical skill. ---
**Author:** ![Done25](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/done25/32/494511_2.png) [@Done25](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Done25)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2024, 4:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vecamia-amarr-jita-route/440186/83 "2024-03-13T16:21:58Z")
I hope you’re joking. That’s just begging to get shuttle bombed. ---
**Author:** ![Namdor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/namdor/32/396179_2.png) [@Namdor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Namdor)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2024, 5:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vecamia-amarr-jita-route/440186/84 "2024-03-13T17:51:02Z")
> [@Rail\_J\_kar](#): > > I don’t recall. It was likely in a stream with ccpers. Could have also been an offhanded mention in one of the fanfest videos, but I don’t think it was. The ever popular “Source: I made it up” ---
**Author:** ![Rail\_J\_kar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rail_j_kar/32/374429_2.png) [@Rail\_J\_kar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rail_J_kar)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2024, 6:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vecamia-amarr-jita-route/440186/85 "2024-03-13T18:07:32Z")
> [@Done25](#): > > I hope you’re joking. That’s just begging to get shuttle bombed. You can get through Ahbazon in shuttle pretty easily if you don’t warp directly. ---
**Author:** ![Wes\_Wyhunnan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wes_wyhunnan/32/409400_2.png) [@Wes\_Wyhunnan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wes_Wyhunnan)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2024, 12:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vecamia-amarr-jita-route/440186/86 "2024-03-14T00:18:46Z")
People who have BPOs should know to not warp gate to gate in low sec. If they don’t? Oh well. ---
**Author:** ![Kanavaisto\_Askiras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kanavaisto_askiras/32/387775_2.png) [@Kanavaisto\_Askiras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kanavaisto_Askiras)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2024, 11:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vecamia-amarr-jita-route/440186/87 "2024-03-14T11:17:45Z")
You can summarize this discussion into one sentence : Old white men : WE DO NOT WANT OUR GAME TO BE CHANGED NOOOOOOOOOOO!!! ---
**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/510263_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2024, 11:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vecamia-amarr-jita-route/440186/88 "2024-03-14T11:36:44Z")
Please don’t assume anyones gender! It’s a microaggression! 😮 ---
**Author:** ![Rail\_J\_kar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rail_j_kar/32/374429_2.png) [@Rail\_J\_kar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rail_J_kar)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2024, 11:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vecamia-amarr-jita-route/440186/89 "2024-03-14T11:42:01Z")
> [@Kanavaisto\_Askiras](#): > > Old white men Not sure why you’ve got to be racist about it. ---
**Author:** ![Eloken\_Toralen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eloken_toralen/32/401714_2.png) [@Eloken\_Toralen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eloken_Toralen)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2024, 11:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vecamia-amarr-jita-route/440186/90 "2024-03-14T11:43:08Z")
> [@Mephiztopheleze](#): > > I’m not saying another hub wouldn’t start gaining traction with map changes, but there’s a huge amount of inertia to overcome. That could be easily overcome by making market taxes subject to the same volume dynamic as industry build fees. The more orders in a market, the higher the fees go, lower orders, less fees. Create some incentive to run a citadel market hub, rather than just allow infinite orders in NPC stations. ---
**Author:** ![Mephiztopheleze](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mephiztopheleze/32/381036_2.png) [@Mephiztopheleze](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mephiztopheleze)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2024, 11:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vecamia-amarr-jita-route/440186/91 "2024-03-14T11:52:56Z")
the security of an NPC station is a major draw. getting hundreds of billions of ISK worth of stuff out of asset safety if a citadel goes pop can be very costly. i’d be interested to know how much stuff went to asset safety when the Perimeter Keepstar fell. ---
**Author:** ![Eloken\_Toralen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eloken_toralen/32/401714_2.png) [@Eloken\_Toralen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eloken_Toralen)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2024, 11:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vecamia-amarr-jita-route/440186/92 "2024-03-14T11:55:24Z")
Yeah, but how much stuff will move to be sold elsewhere once Jita 4-4 hits a %50 listing fee from having a billion market orders? Things moving in this game is content… ---
**Author:** ![Mephiztopheleze](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mephiztopheleze/32/381036_2.png) [@Mephiztopheleze](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mephiztopheleze)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2024, 12:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vecamia-amarr-jita-route/440186/93 "2024-03-14T12:06:23Z")
there’s lots of stations in Jita. i don’t see this as a particularly good idea. ---
**Author:** ![Eloken\_Toralen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eloken_toralen/32/401714_2.png) [@Eloken\_Toralen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eloken_Toralen)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2024, 1:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vecamia-amarr-jita-route/440186/94 "2024-03-14T13:35:06Z")
If I am not mistaken, the industry index cost is going to be the same for a particular activity in a system, not just a particular station. The intended effect being to make trade in Jita expensive, or force the spread to adjoining systems. Cannot say that will never happen, the build fee hike means its cheaper to build stuff in a regular NPC station than in the Sarum Prime Azbel or in the TTT industry structures, even factoring in the additional parts costs… ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2024, 3:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vecamia-amarr-jita-route/440186/95 "2024-03-14T15:39:09Z")
Well, we could argue what is life, and what isnt, and what makes life different from non-life, that would be discussion about dead things moving and combinign with other dead things. The effect would be that EVE isnt or is alive, it never was or always was. Same as you or me. Car being alive or not, or you being alive or not, is just a matter of changing energy states after all. Boundaries between life and death cant be clearly defined, when you try to define it. Life could be after all just a value in human language model, when in fact its only changes of states between different objects building everything, including you. The oxygen you inhale, is part of it, the water you hold inside your cells are part of life, but where does life starts and where it ends… on which particle of oxygen or water? Think about it. ---
**Author:** ![Phaade](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/phaade/32/390475_2.png) [@Phaade](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Phaade)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2024, 2:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vecamia-amarr-jita-route/440186/96 "2024-03-15T02:33:14Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > The _best_ thing CCP could do is change a lot of high-sec systems to low-sec systems, and forbid all combat capital ships from low-sec. This would be so glorious ---
**Author:** ![Wachutu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wachutu/32/410262_2.png) [@Wachutu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wachutu)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2024, 10:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vecamia-amarr-jita-route/440186/97 "2024-03-15T10:58:51Z")
I hope this is meant ironically. ---
**Author:** ![Phaade](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/phaade/32/390475_2.png) [@Phaade](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Phaade)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2024, 1:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vecamia-amarr-jita-route/440186/98 "2024-03-15T13:54:50Z")
Something to consider, if each empire was an island, which would make complete sense given their relations, we’d have far more low sec systems to go through rather than just the one or two like Abhazon or Vecamia. It’s a lot harder to gate camp say 40 systems than it is to camp two. They currently are so dangerous because the campers only need to camp a couple. Look at the MER, the trade disparity between Jita and the rest of the galaxy is pretty crazy. It would be much better for the game if it were more decentralized IMO. Would add a lot of value to production in different regions, no? As convenient a Jita is. ---
**Author:** ![Tipa\_Riot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tipa_riot/32/443513_2.png) [@Tipa\_Riot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tipa_Riot)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2024, 2:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vecamia-amarr-jita-route/440186/99 "2024-03-15T14:28:53Z")
Why do you want more empty systems?? Most of lowsec (and null) is empty, except FW systems and around the choke points. On those who argue in favor, what you really want is an environment so average and dispersed, so you can pretend playing a single-player game. The choke points where players meet to trade or for mutual destruction are the lifeblood of EvE. ---
**Author:** ![Wachutu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wachutu/32/410262_2.png) [@Wachutu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wachutu)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2024, 3:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vecamia-amarr-jita-route/440186/100 "2024-03-15T15:08:26Z")
The fact that they appear empty is just an illusion. ---
**Author:** ![Tipa\_Riot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tipa_riot/32/443513_2.png) [@Tipa\_Riot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tipa_Riot)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2024, 3:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vecamia-amarr-jita-route/440186/101 "2024-03-15T15:09:25Z")
Well, empty local outside WH/Pochven means … empty. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vecamia-amarr-jita-route/440186.md?page=4) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vecamia-amarr-jita-route/440186.md?page=6)