# Version 18.06 - Feedback and Known Issues (Mac)

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-18-06-feedback-and-known-issues-mac/249187>\
**Category:** Mac OS\
**Tags:** mac, feedback, official\
**Created:** [June 15, 2020, 8:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-18-06-feedback-and-known-issues-mac/249187 "2020-06-15T08:49:53Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Sylvia\_Kildare](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sylvia_kildare/32/416948_2.png) [@Sylvia\_Kildare](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sylvia_Kildare)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2020, 1:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-18-06-feedback-and-known-issues-mac/249187/22 "2020-06-23T13:56:19Z")

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> [@Ryan\_B\_Thiesant](#):
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> Skill books don’t need to be bought from any station anymore. Hover over skill in character sheet and click buy.

\*Some skill books.

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**Author:** ![Shirley\_Ding-Dong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shirley_ding-dong/32/303582_2.png) [@Shirley\_Ding-Dong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shirley_Ding-Dong)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2020, 5:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-18-06-feedback-and-known-issues-mac/249187/23 "2020-06-23T17:42:22Z")

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> [@Hrki\_Wolf\_Athonille](#):
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> 1 month without resolution is way too much

I’ve had a response to my ticket from CCP Support - they are trying / suggesting various options to get me flying again.

Unfortunately still stuck in the hangar ☹

Oh the joy of Project Discovery ! ! ! - at least I can do my bit to help save mankind from the virus.

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**Author:** ![Ryan\_B\_Thiesant](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ryan_b_thiesant/32/293156_2.png) [@Ryan\_B\_Thiesant](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ryan_B_Thiesant)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2020, 8:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-18-06-feedback-and-known-issues-mac/249187/24 "2020-06-25T08:52:13Z")

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Is that a bug or on purpose?

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**Author:** ![Shirley\_Ding-Dong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shirley_ding-dong/32/303582_2.png) [@Shirley\_Ding-Dong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shirley_Ding-Dong)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2020, 2:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-18-06-feedback-and-known-issues-mac/249187/25 "2020-06-25T14:56:07Z")

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It’s a bug  
ever since the 18.05 update - when I undock the frame rate drops to less than ONE fps - so I can’t realistically fly anywhere ! !! - fine in the hangar.

Just doing some PD to earn some isk and keep checking dailywhether there is an update that fixes the prob - I can’t afford to update my laptop (which worked fine previous to the update) - due to RL finances - so stuck at the moment.

If I was in one of the trading hubs it wouldn’t be so bad - I could play the trade markets - but I’m stuck in some small regional place

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**Author:** ![Ryan\_B\_Thiesant](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ryan_b_thiesant/32/293156_2.png) [@Ryan\_B\_Thiesant](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ryan_B_Thiesant)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2020, 3:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-18-06-feedback-and-known-issues-mac/249187/26 "2020-06-25T15:03:17Z")

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> [@Sylvia\_Kildare](#):
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> \*Some skill books.

Interesting. What skill book can’t I buy?

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**Author:** ![Shirley\_Ding-Dong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shirley_ding-dong/32/303582_2.png) [@Shirley\_Ding-Dong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shirley_Ding-Dong)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2020, 3:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-18-06-feedback-and-known-issues-mac/249187/27 "2020-06-25T15:21:37Z")

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> [@Ryan\_B\_Thiesant](#):
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> What skill book can’t I buy?

only skill books available for sale in the region can be bought on ‘Buy Now’

Be careful and check the market before you hit the ‘Buy Now’ button - you can end up paying way over the odds for skill books - they may be cheaper in the next region - or different area - Calfari, Ammar sectors for some skills for example - there is some profiteering out there - if a skill costing 150k isk isn’t sold by the NPC stations in a region - someone can put that skill up for sale for say 1mil isk - if you press buy now - you are paying way too much ! !

ALSO - you might buy the skill and it buys one from a different station to the one you are in - so you need to travel to pick it up.

hope this helps

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**Author:** ![Ryan\_B\_Thiesant](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ryan_b_thiesant/32/293156_2.png) [@Ryan\_B\_Thiesant](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ryan_B_Thiesant)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2020, 3:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-18-06-feedback-and-known-issues-mac/249187/28 "2020-06-25T15:28:13Z")

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> [@Shirley\_Ding-Dong](#):
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> only skill books available for sale in the region can be bought on ‘Buy Now’

Skill books can be bought outside market.

They can be “zapped” to you clone.

Open character check a skills and look for blue plus symbol. and ad and buy skills this way.

so I think we are talking about different ways to get skills.

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**Author:** ![Shirley\_Ding-Dong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shirley_ding-dong/32/303582_2.png) [@Shirley\_Ding-Dong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shirley_Ding-Dong)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2020, 4:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-18-06-feedback-and-known-issues-mac/249187/29 "2020-06-25T16:27:27Z")

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> [@Ryan\_B\_Thiesant](#):
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> They can be “zapped” to you clone

Thanks for the info Ryan BT -  
always something new to learn in this game.

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**Author:** ![CCP\_Caffeine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ccp_caffeine/32/387016_2.png) [@CCP\_Caffeine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/CCP_Caffeine)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2020, 7:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-18-06-feedback-and-known-issues-mac/249187/30 "2020-06-25T19:32:53Z")

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How are you launching the launcher?

I’ve seen times when people are simply running the downloaded launcher file. You should install it by dragging it onto the ‘applications’ folder:

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/a/2/a231c611b4ea40a17563c0e365d358a2bccae268.jpeg)

Once this is done, you then run the installed version, and not the downloaded file.

Sorry if this sounds obvious, but it’s a very common cause of the launcher not updating and causes all sorts of issues.

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**Author:** ![CCP\_Caffeine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ccp_caffeine/32/387016_2.png) [@CCP\_Caffeine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/CCP_Caffeine)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2020, 7:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-18-06-feedback-and-known-issues-mac/249187/31 "2020-06-25T19:57:25Z")

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We believe we have a fix for the audio issues. It’s currently being tested internally and if all goes to plan, it should be in the next release.

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**Author:** ![CCP\_Caffeine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ccp_caffeine/32/387016_2.png) [@CCP\_Caffeine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/CCP_Caffeine)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2020, 8:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-18-06-feedback-and-known-issues-mac/249187/32 "2020-06-25T20:00:55Z")

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> [@Novazerk](#):
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> “Client Closed unexpectedly: Client assigned to XXXXXXX has closed unexpectedly”

Could you check in the launcher and make sure DX9 mode is enabled. I know this has solved the issue for some Mac users previously.

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**Author:** ![Sylvia\_Kildare](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sylvia_kildare/32/416948_2.png) [@Sylvia\_Kildare](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sylvia_Kildare)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2020, 4:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-18-06-feedback-and-known-issues-mac/249187/33 "2020-06-26T04:56:37Z")

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> [@Ryan\_B\_Thiesant](#):
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> Is that a bug or on purpose?

That you can’t buy all skill books in the character sheet? It’s on purpose.

> [@Ryan\_B\_Thiesant](#):
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> Interesting. What skill book can’t I buy?

CCP provided the ability to buy most of the “regular ol’ skills” (aka the ones available at most NPC university stations in HS/LS) from wherever you are in game at a higher ISK amount… but they left out all the skillbooks that you must acquire from a different source, because those skillbooks weren’t purchaseable from NPC sell orders at those aforementioned stations.

Those include things like the Gas Harvesting skillbook, the drug-side-effect skills, maybe the nanite paste repair skills, too?

And I would imagine that also includes Trig ship/weapon skills and now EDENCOM ship/weapon skills since there is an established source for all of those that isn’t NPC stations.

You can ofc buy any of these skills (from players) at trade hubs or random citadels/stations occasionally.

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**Author:** ![Grand\_Master\_Bates](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/grand_master_bates/32/302170_2.png) [@Grand\_Master\_Bates](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Grand_Master_Bates)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2020, 12:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-18-06-feedback-and-known-issues-mac/249187/34 "2020-06-27T00:39:28Z")

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Looks like you guys got it working! Thanks CCP

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Munchausen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lord_munchausen/32/232155_2.png) [@Lord\_Munchausen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lord_Munchausen)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2020, 8:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-18-06-feedback-and-known-issues-mac/249187/35 "2020-06-30T20:41:29Z")

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It just make the game more realistic in the vacuum you cannot hear turret sounds in’it

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**Author:** ![Corporal\_Fillip](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/corporal_fillip/32/383028_2.png) [@Corporal\_Fillip](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Corporal_Fillip)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2020, 12:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-18-06-feedback-and-known-issues-mac/249187/36 "2020-07-03T00:33:16Z")

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Those should be appearing in the invasion sites, and in some demand by people working those sites – so probably just fewer available from player sellers.  
Be wary of early prices when they appear; the normal progress is that they start out high (priced) and come down a lot as the books exceed the demand of players working invasion sites.

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**Author:** ![Corporal\_Fillip](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/corporal_fillip/32/383028_2.png) [@Corporal\_Fillip](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Corporal_Fillip)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2020, 12:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-18-06-feedback-and-known-issues-mac/249187/37 "2020-07-03T00:35:05Z")

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I recall seeing that message before the current launcher style;  
Are you using the current launcher to run client?  
(i.e., NOT launching the client yourself directly?)

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**Author:** ![Shirley\_Ding-Dong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shirley_ding-dong/32/303582_2.png) [@Shirley\_Ding-Dong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shirley_Ding-Dong)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2020, 8:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-18-06-feedback-and-known-issues-mac/249187/38 "2020-07-07T20:50:31Z")

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Still can’t leave the station at more than one frame per second on my Mac.

I thought I’d test if the hardware is too low grade - or I had some conflicting extensions or apps.

macbook 2011  
16gb ram  
1tb HD  
512mb Intel 3000 Graphics

Formatted the disc completely  
Installed Clean OSX (10.13.6)  
Installed EVE

Still the same problem - game won’t run properly when undocked.

So . . . .

Added a Bootcamp Partition  
Installed WIN7  
Installed EVE

Booted up EVE

It works fine - plenty of FPS - need to lower the graphics a bit

SO

Hardware checks out okay - it has enough poke to run the game - not like a gaming god - but good enough for me.

MAC Launcher - no good with the same hardware running 10.3 (High Sierra)

I can now play - but would rather be in Mac mode so I don’t have to switch / reboot when I want to do anything else.

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**Author:** ![Stephan\_X\_Janau](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/stephan_x_janau/32/272899_2.png) [@Stephan\_X\_Janau](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Stephan_X_Janau)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2020, 1:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-18-06-feedback-and-known-issues-mac/249187/39 "2020-07-08T13:33:46Z")

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are you running Catalina ? or has CCP updated for Catalina . Im still running Mojave until Eve updates . seems to run fine, had the weapon turret sound issue, but that seems fixed.

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**Author:** ![Mkikaden\_Tiragen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mkikaden_tiragen/32/243913_2.png) [@Mkikaden\_Tiragen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mkikaden_Tiragen)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2020, 2:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-18-06-feedback-and-known-issues-mac/249187/40 "2020-07-08T14:01:25Z")

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Are you able to update to Mojave (10.14)? It seems to be the Mac OS version they are building toward on their 32-bit client. Catalina (10.15) and the 64-bit client are pretty wonky from what I have read, so I haven’t updated beyond Mojave (plus I would lose a good chunk of my Steam library if I went 64-bit on MacOS, and I don’t have enough onboard harddrive space to use Bootcamp for Windows).

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**Author:** ![Shirley\_Ding-Dong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shirley_ding-dong/32/303582_2.png) [@Shirley\_Ding-Dong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shirley_Ding-Dong)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2020, 9:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-18-06-feedback-and-known-issues-mac/249187/41 "2020-07-08T21:20:34Z")

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> [@Mkikaden\_Tiragen](#):
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> Mojave (10.14)?

Unfortunately my MacBook won’t ‘natively’ run OSX above 10.13  
Apparently there is a way of hacking it to run Mojave - I might try when I get some free time.

If that doesn’t work - I’ll stick to switching between OSX and WIN 7 until whilst saving for a new computer !!

> [@Mkikaden\_Tiragen](#):
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> don’t have enough onboard harddrive space to use Bootcamp

That’s one of the reasons I’ve stuck with this MacBook for so long - cheap as chips to throw in a 1TB drive - I’m finding the new MacBook pros (and many widows laptops I’ve looked at) more unattractive as the HD & RAM are soldered in - so to get a similar spec new model would set me back GBP2000 - can’t buy a lower spec model and then upgrade later - checking the second hand market 🙂

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