# Version 18.10 - General Feedback **URL:** \ **Category:** Announcements\ **Tags:** release, official, feedback\ **Created:** [October 13, 2020, 8:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-18-10-general-feedback/273012 "2020-10-13T08:34:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 31
**Author:** ![leavwiz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/leavwiz/32/235353_2.png) [@leavwiz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/leavwiz)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2020, 2:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-18-10-general-feedback/273012/628 "2020-10-19T14:03:10Z")
i believe part of the problem is devs working from home and not talking with each other about projects. In any event. they are not explaining things well and our numbers are dropping rapidly amongst our indy guys. Perhaps one day someone at CCP will figure out that many of the industry based nuances of the gamer are the only reason (other than friends) that we play… meanwhile back to researching bpo’s ---
**Author:** ![Madame\_Solette](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/madame_solette/32/371359_2.png) [@Madame\_Solette](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Madame_Solette)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2020, 4:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-18-10-general-feedback/273012/629 "2020-10-19T16:26:19Z")
**After the worst UI font style patch, the nummber of fittet laucher and/or turrets thingy looks like not centered between the borders in the fitting window. Pls fix that, thanks.** ![worst-ui-font-style-06](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/9/b/9ba3dcd309dd9cf7fca0e4287eaa3fb399259854.png) ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2020, 7:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-18-10-general-feedback/273012/630 "2020-10-19T19:46:40Z")
> [@Madame\_Solette](#): > > the nummber of fittet laucher and/or turrets thingy I demand CCP refer to it as this when they patch it. ---
**Author:** ![Calynus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/calynus/32/243068_2.png) [@Calynus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Calynus)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2020, 12:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-18-10-general-feedback/273012/631 "2020-10-20T00:46:08Z")
> [@Pith\_Hurdaa](#): > > Are you reserving the removal of the red dot for something really worse, like sructures consuming plex to run, or guns firing plex as ammo? “Gold ammo” just like in World of Tanks. You know Pearl Abyss would go there if they could. ---
**Author:** ![Bladacticus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bladacticus/32/397034_2.png) [@Bladacticus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bladacticus)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2020, 1:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-18-10-general-feedback/273012/632 "2020-10-20T01:10:01Z")
The chat color is now so gray I can barely read it. The text in the chat window was already hard to read with the font choice. Can’t you just make the color of text in the chat a setting we can all choose? We can set text color in a lot of other places, why not the one place we see text the entire time we’re playing? ---
**Author:** ![Aesculus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aesculus/32/420651_2.png) [@Aesculus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aesculus)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2020, 1:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-18-10-general-feedback/273012/633 "2020-10-20T01:50:26Z")
I would like to thank CCP for “fixing” the issue of the chat window text and making it slightly light grey on slightly dark grey. Who needs contrast to read? Older people don’t play this game, after all. The 20-something that reported the more readable lighter text as a bug is certainly glad that he can play EVE in his dark dorm room. ---
**Author:** ![Kuku\_Nosha](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kuku_nosha/32/399837_2.png) [@Kuku\_Nosha](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kuku_Nosha)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2020, 1:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-18-10-general-feedback/273012/634 "2020-10-20T01:52:48Z")
I am getting heavy lags and delays while hacking. A while ago I was able to blitz through hacks and open up nodes from one side to the other within 2 seconds without much of an issue while seeing clearly what is happening. Right now I have to wait 1-2 seconds after pretty much every node so I don’t accidentally fudge something up because relevant new information doesn’t get displayed quickly. Like I can click on 4 successive nodes and when I am at the 4th the 1st just start uncovering. Makes hacking massively tedious and way more dangerous. ---
**Author:** ![Zyzygy\_Darklock](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zyzygy_darklock/32/381616_2.png) [@Zyzygy\_Darklock](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zyzygy_Darklock)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2020, 4:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-18-10-general-feedback/273012/635 "2020-10-20T04:52:57Z")
Sweet jebus. You did the Font foobar to all the mail and the mailing lists as well !! And there is no way of changing the font size whatsoever except effing up the entire UI scale permanently and getting the huge Overview covering a third of your view. _Sigh_ CCP - what’s the POINT of all this??? WHY do you supposedly “need” to keep making the font sizes smaller and smaller??? Do you even realize that every time you make something smaller, it takes that little bit of extra time to accurately locate and hit it, so in effect you are making millions and millions of clicks from people ‘lag’ that much more for every click- leading to LESS and LESS gameplay, but perhaps more importantly, WORSE pvp - and very much worse pvp reaction times for people who have real issues visually etc who are getting handicapped even finding the much important submenu items - so in effect you are giving this group yet another serious in game combat handicap. Do you think they appreciate this permanently induced pointless handicap for any reason and just need to shut up and learn to live with it?? So yet again: For the love of everything that’s good and decent or even remotely SANE in this world: WHY??? ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2020, 6:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-18-10-general-feedback/273012/636 "2020-10-20T06:16:45Z")
CCP, you have to improve on making UI, not improve on making BAD UI. ---
**Author:** ![Terrorfrodo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/terrorfrodo/32/367955_2.png) [@Terrorfrodo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Terrorfrodo)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2020, 10:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-18-10-general-feedback/273012/637 "2020-10-20T10:21:11Z")
Please adjust the standings mechanics for Triglavians. Needing tens of thousands of ticks to get enough standing to use the gates is not reasonable. That’s not even grinding anymore… if you did nothing else all day every day, the ~3,500 ticks required to get to +3 would be 35,000 minutes. That’s 583 hours of non-stop grinding. How about you increase the standings bonus from the rats by a factor of 20 to 100 and add ALL the sleepers to entities that affect standings? Currently only the sleepers in the five special drifter hive systems give standings although the rats are identical to those in other w-space systems. If all sleepers gave standings, this could lead to a large influx of players coming into low-class wormholes to farm standings which would be great content for w-space as well. ---
**Author:** ![Gaius\_Mileghere](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gaius_mileghere/32/258417_2.png) [@Gaius\_Mileghere](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gaius_Mileghere)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2020, 10:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-18-10-general-feedback/273012/638 "2020-10-20T10:28:01Z")
or just train Criminal Connections? Pretty sure that’d bump standings. ---
**Author:** ![Terrorfrodo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/terrorfrodo/32/367955_2.png) [@Terrorfrodo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Terrorfrodo)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2020, 10:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-18-10-general-feedback/273012/639 "2020-10-20T10:32:57Z")
Not personally tested but others have posted that the standings skills don’t affect any of the newer factions in the game. ---
**Author:** ![Gaius\_Mileghere](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gaius_mileghere/32/258417_2.png) [@Gaius\_Mileghere](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gaius_Mileghere)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2020, 10:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-18-10-general-feedback/273012/640 "2020-10-20T10:47:32Z")
oh ok ☹ that’s a shame. ---
**Author:** ![Cade102](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cade102/32/515777_2.png) [@Cade102](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cade102)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2020, 11:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-18-10-general-feedback/273012/641 "2020-10-20T11:06:52Z")
As predicted, highsec Storyline agents are still asking for Kernite and Omber for “materials for war” mission. ![han whatevz](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/2X/3/3256b9244e794779aba8ad9fab9c66398e8d9e4b.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Gaius\_Mileghere](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gaius_mileghere/32/258417_2.png) [@Gaius\_Mileghere](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gaius_Mileghere)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2020, 11:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-18-10-general-feedback/273012/642 "2020-10-20T11:08:00Z")
Ask and ye shall receive… separated avoidance buttons for EDENCOM/Trig minor victory systems! 😃 > [@Cade102](#): > > As predicted, highsec Storyline agents are still asking for Kernite and Omber for “materials for war” mission. You can’t just buy those ores? ---
**Author:** ![Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zhalyd_lyehin/32/358574_2.png) [@Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zhalyd_Lyehin)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2020, 11:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-18-10-general-feedback/273012/643 "2020-10-20T11:10:22Z")
> - Added warning pop-ups when attempting to jump through a stargate leading to an EDENCOM or Triglavian Minor Victory system. Regardless of standings or do I not get a useless warning when I go into a friendly system? > - Added Triglavian warning icons to stargates leading to Triglavian Minor Victory systems. They are needed in the Route planner, not on the gates which no one sees and no one should be paying attention to. So Nonni still does not tell me that I am going into a TrigMV and Litiura is not marked as MV either. This change is useless, typical for CCP efforts. ---
**Author:** ![Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zhalyd_lyehin/32/358574_2.png) [@Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zhalyd_Lyehin)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2020, 11:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-18-10-general-feedback/273012/644 "2020-10-20T11:11:55Z")
> [@Gaius\_Mileghere](#): > > You can’t just buy those ores? That makes the missions pointless as those ores are now more expensive then the rewards handed out. ---
**Author:** ![Merlin\_Darkstone](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merlin_darkstone/32/256191_2.png) [@Merlin\_Darkstone](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merlin_Darkstone)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2020, 11:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-18-10-general-feedback/273012/645 "2020-10-20T11:13:26Z")
And you can still buy that ores on the same station without even undocking… Is it really as game-breaking problem as unreadable gray text on gray background? ---
**Author:** ![Quentin\_Schaefer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quentin_schaefer/32/471507_2.png) [@Quentin\_Schaefer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Quentin_Schaefer)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2020, 11:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-18-10-general-feedback/273012/646 "2020-10-20T11:20:41Z")
well, tbh, storyline missions are only good for gaining faction standing, not so much the isk reward. ---
**Author:** ![Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zhalyd_lyehin/32/358574_2.png) [@Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zhalyd_Lyehin)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2020, 11:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-18-10-general-feedback/273012/647 "2020-10-20T11:39:46Z")
That’s besides the point. A mission reward should reward you and not cost you more than it’s worth. Even if you factor in the standing gains as reward, I have already paid for those with my mission accomplishment. Paying extra ISK on top of that makes this pointless and annoying. If people would stop excusing every single dumb change/objectively bad development quality/development oversight CCP introduces, eventually they might even start developing good things again or at least trash in a good enough quality that it actually works. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-18-10-general-feedback/273012.md?page=30) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-18-10-general-feedback/273012.md?page=32)