# Version 22.01 - Equinox - General Feedback **URL:** \ **Category:** Announcements\ **Tags:** feedback, release, official\ **Created:** [June 10, 2024, 2:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-22-01-equinox-general-feedback/451956 "2024-06-10T14:16:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 22
**Author:** ![Ivan\_Grzonka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ivan_grzonka/32/484990_2.png) [@Ivan\_Grzonka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ivan_Grzonka)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2024, 7:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-22-01-equinox-general-feedback/451956/425 "2024-07-12T19:55:45Z")
As far as I understood, you have a 20ish minute timer running in the moment you warp into the anomaly. If you are afk-ratting, its fine… your Ishtar needs more than 20 minutes to complete. So if you have finished, the new side will insta respawn. But if you are Stormbringer-ratting and complete your side in 3(?) minutes you have to wait for 17 minutes for respawn. So…i think they killed the Stormbringer too, or what should I do with them now ? ---
**Author:** ![Posh\_Wynoa\_Spice](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/posh_wynoa_spice/32/455534_2.png) [@Posh\_Wynoa\_Spice](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Posh_Wynoa_Spice)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2024, 8:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-22-01-equinox-general-feedback/451956/426 "2024-07-12T20:14:52Z")
> [@Ivan\_Grzonka](#): > > But if you are Stormbringer-ratting and complete your side in 3(?) minutes you have to wait for 17 minutes for respawn. Alternatively, you can spend 1.5 minutes jumping two systems away where there are 4 anomalies, clear those, and then come back. Possibly doing 1-2 in the in-between systems. Why are you people pushing this “null means 500 people in 1 system, and 500 empty systems around it for safety” narrative that CCP has been trying to kill for several years now? ---
**Author:** ![Jehsato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jehsato/32/423620_2.png) [@Jehsato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jehsato)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2024, 8:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-22-01-equinox-general-feedback/451956/427 "2024-07-12T20:29:50Z")
Scarcity 2.1 ---
**Author:** ![Ivan\_Grzonka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ivan_grzonka/32/484990_2.png) [@Ivan\_Grzonka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ivan_Grzonka)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2024, 8:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-22-01-equinox-general-feedback/451956/428 "2024-07-12T20:57:49Z")
I am not alone in the space. If i would do it - noone else could… Besides having and maintaining the 3 asked systems to do so. (including the possibility to actually have enough energy to run the upgrades) ---
**Author:** ![Ivan\_Grzonka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ivan_grzonka/32/484990_2.png) [@Ivan\_Grzonka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ivan_Grzonka)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2024, 8:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-22-01-equinox-general-feedback/451956/429 "2024-07-12T20:59:15Z")
more like 3.0 - feels like they skipped a whole version xD ---
**Author:** ![Resixh\_Six](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/resixh_six/32/414678_2.png) [@Resixh\_Six](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Resixh_Six)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2024, 9:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-22-01-equinox-general-feedback/451956/430 "2024-07-13T09:16:24Z")
they removed many anome of systems you dont get it but you should learn math ---
**Author:** ![Gusina\_Makenen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gusina_makenen/32/427427_2.png) [@Gusina\_Makenen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gusina_Makenen)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2024, 1:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-22-01-equinox-general-feedback/451956/431 "2024-07-14T01:19:21Z")
recently resubscribed, being excited about NULL potential improvement. HUGELY disappointed, should have not believed CCP propaganda. Just about every aspect of NULL changes is poorly thought through, and rather nerfed to the ground than improved. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Leman\_Raholan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/john_leman_raholan/32/427429_2.png) [@John\_Leman\_Raholan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/John_Leman_Raholan)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2024, 3:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-22-01-equinox-general-feedback/451956/432 "2024-07-14T03:28:39Z")
To Whom It May Concern, As a long-time player since the very beginning in 2005, I feel compelled to express my deep frustration and disappointment with the recent changes targeting miners. I’ve enjoyed spending my days stripping belts and enjoying a cold beer, but the recent adjustments to anomalies, reducing their size from 3 or 4 million m³ to a mere 2 million m³, have made this nearly impossible. Why would you nerf the game under the guise of an expansion? It feels like false advertising, which I believe borders on illegal. Instead of diminishing the experience for miners, I urge you to FIX this patch. Doubling the rock size by 100% across the board and decreasing the upgrade stats would not only restore balance but also enhance the gameplay experience for all. These minor changes can transform the patch from a source of frustration to a truly positive update. Please listen to your dedicated player base and make these necessary adjustments. Sincerely, A Dedicated Miner ---
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2024, 3:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-22-01-equinox-general-feedback/451956/433 "2024-07-14T03:33:54Z")
False advertising lol no. ---
**Author:** ![Induce\_Deadline](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/induce_deadline/32/418955_2.png) [@Induce\_Deadline](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Induce_Deadline)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2024, 5:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-22-01-equinox-general-feedback/451956/434 "2024-07-14T05:28:50Z")
yeah in the same boat, resubscribed after 3 years out of the game due to Scarcity. Given it 3 weeks, but I’ve unsubbed my accounts again. CCP will never change. - Supercap indy not fixed, hey let’s remove our epic gear and wonder why players feel deflated! - Mining nerfed - Ratting nerfed - SKIINR excessively monetised and swallows skins into the abyss - Corp projects are a huge fail and do not get used. Much talked about SRP project doesn’t check fits so is effectively useless. - Dailies ignored as many can’t be done in null - CCP designing towards tedium to try to make some numbers balance, ignoring that a game should be about fun. - Null wars/content significantly down on 2015-2019 era. No pings anymore. - No reason to sub dedicated cap accounts, 0 value for money in having them which totally undermines the YEARS spent creating them. I don’t think I’ll ever understand CCP at this point. Game could be banging, they could bring back the 10k viewer stream events (supercap battles), but stubbornly they won’t. They are incredibly tone deaf, how they thought Equinox would be well-received is beyond me. It’s just completely ■■■■. ---
**Author:** ![Istrulf\_Sinulf](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/istrulf_sinulf/32/455299_2.png) [@Istrulf\_Sinulf](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Istrulf_Sinulf)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2024, 6:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-22-01-equinox-general-feedback/451956/435 "2024-07-14T06:18:50Z")
Equinox has been a massively retrograde step. ---
**Author:** ![Gusina\_Makenen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gusina_makenen/32/427427_2.png) [@Gusina\_Makenen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gusina_Makenen)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2024, 6:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-22-01-equinox-general-feedback/451956/436 "2024-07-14T06:24:01Z")
> [@Induce\_Deadline](#): > > CCP designing towards tedium to try to make some numbers balance, ignoring that a game should be about fun. I LOVE THIS PHRASE ABSOLUTELY !!! SOO TRUE CCP READ THIS AND REMEMBER !!! THIS IS WHAT YOU ARE \*\*\* CCP designing towards tedium to try to make some numbers balance, ignoring that a game should be about fun."\*\* ---
**Author:** ![Gusina\_Makenen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gusina_makenen/32/427427_2.png) [@Gusina\_Makenen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gusina_Makenen)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2024, 6:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-22-01-equinox-general-feedback/451956/437 "2024-07-14T06:52:49Z")
I also always wonder, when CCP says _“we thoroughly consulted CSM”_ Who is that brilliant CSM guy that they talked to? PLEASE give me his char so i NEVER vote for him. ---
**Author:** ![Ivan\_Grzonka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ivan_grzonka/32/484990_2.png) [@Ivan\_Grzonka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ivan_Grzonka)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2024, 9:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-22-01-equinox-general-feedback/451956/438 "2024-07-14T09:23:37Z")
its not only a single CSM (crumplezone special member or so) - there are “some”. > **[Current CSM - EVE Community](https://community.eveonline.com/community/csm/current-csm/)** > > Eve Online is the world's largest MMO RPG universe rich in adventure, as player corporations compete in a massively multiplayer online space game. ---
**Author:** ![Kazuha\_Nolm](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kazuha_nolm/32/418875_2.png) [@Kazuha\_Nolm](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kazuha_Nolm)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2024, 9:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-22-01-equinox-general-feedback/451956/439 "2024-07-14T09:31:55Z")
Those CSMs I know said opposite of this patch. It’s up to you to decide who to believe. ---
**Author:** ![Ivan\_Grzonka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ivan_grzonka/32/484990_2.png) [@Ivan\_Grzonka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ivan_Grzonka)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2024, 9:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-22-01-equinox-general-feedback/451956/440 "2024-07-14T09:45:15Z")
Not only that ! They’ve also been warned about the “instant respawn of anomalies” and why ppl would use Stormbringers - its the same problem like in pochven. And now they try to sell it as “hyper-optimized tactics” instead of “simple game mechanics from 2 years ago which we ignored”. As said - i believe the CSM’s are just the crumple zone for CCP’s ignorance and propaganda. ---
**Author:** ![Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sasha_nemtsov/32/393707_2.png) [@Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sasha_Nemtsov)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2024, 10:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-22-01-equinox-general-feedback/451956/441 "2024-07-14T10:09:59Z")
> [@Kazuha\_Nolm](#): > > It’s up to you to decide who to believe. It may simply be the case that the CSM is consulted and its views considered - but that there is no compulsion on the Company to take on board any of the suggestions or advice it receives. ---
**Author:** ![Kazuha\_Nolm](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kazuha_nolm/32/418875_2.png) [@Kazuha\_Nolm](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kazuha_Nolm)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2024, 11:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-22-01-equinox-general-feedback/451956/442 "2024-07-14T11:12:12Z")
That’s right. Well, then there nothing surprising about such patch, I guess ---
**Author:** ![John\_Leman\_Raholan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/john_leman_raholan/32/427429_2.png) [@John\_Leman\_Raholan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/John_Leman_Raholan)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2024, 12:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-22-01-equinox-general-feedback/451956/443 "2024-07-14T12:33:17Z")
![image_2024-07-14_053253459](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/5/3/d/53dbfbf5e37398f2bd8ee37c33072a86ec237a00.png) Yeah, they sure do listen to are CSM…nope.com ---
**Author:** ![Ploing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ploing/32/466885_2.png) [@Ploing](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ploing)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2024, 3:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-22-01-equinox-general-feedback/451956/444 "2024-07-14T15:02:42Z")
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