# Version 24.01 - Cradle of War - General Feedback **URL:** \ **Category:** Announcements\ **Tags:** feedback, release, official\ **Created:** [June 9, 2026, 11:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-24-01-cradle-of-war-general-feedback/512907 "2026-06-09T11:00:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 32
**Author:** ![Vollhov\_Jr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vollhov_jr/32/510418_2.png) [@Vollhov\_Jr](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vollhov_Jr)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2026, 6:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-24-01-cradle-of-war-general-feedback/512907/640 "2026-09-23T18:43:30Z")
I’ve been hearing about the old code since 2017. Since then, nothing has been done with the missions. We can’t add new interesting missions because the code is old. We cannot make new COSMOS agents because the code is old. We can’t do this or that like the old code. ---
**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/510263_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2026, 6:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-24-01-cradle-of-war-general-feedback/512907/641 "2026-09-23T18:47:47Z")
I’ve been hearing about if from 2009. Yes there is content that was old even back then. They needed ~15 years to implement a resizable cursor. That should tell you enough why they won’t touch real ingame content of that time if it isn’t absolutely nessessary. They rather implement new content, like Abyssals, Burners, Pochven etc… Maybe AI makes it easier in the past to scan the old code - which is obviously badly documented in some parts - for options to change/remove it without crashing the game. ---
**Author:** ![Vollhov\_Jr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vollhov_jr/32/510418_2.png) [@Vollhov\_Jr](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vollhov_Jr)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2026, 7:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-24-01-cradle-of-war-general-feedback/512907/642 "2026-09-23T19:32:15Z")
Are you saying that even starting with the addition of “Burner,” they can’t add missions like Blockade or Sansha’s Phantasmagoria? Create new missions against a faction like EoM (at the moment, there’s only 1 level 4 mission against them). What about the Abyss. This is quite interesting content, but for me personally it is not suitable for me because it is limited in time. ---
**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/510263_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2026, 7:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-24-01-cradle-of-war-general-feedback/512907/643 "2026-09-23T19:33:25Z")
Sure they can “add” new missions. I even think they have done a few times in the past. It just isn’t very high on their priority list, because getting more new content into the game probably looks more promising to them. Tbh, I have always asked myself why they don’t “outsource” the design part. Many games have launched “Map Editors” where players can create maps/missions for the game and then hold yearly contests, the best ones make it into the game. Free promo, usually _great_ design outcome, very little effort for the developer… ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2026, 7:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-24-01-cradle-of-war-general-feedback/512907/644 "2026-09-23T19:40:18Z")
Strange how most everything was created using the old code yet CCP has no problem in changing Skyboxes, System locations, Planets, Moons, Jumpgates, Stations, Ships, Modules, NPC’s, Resource / Combat Site’s, game mechanics, etc… So yeah, using the excuse of not being able to do it because of ‘Legacy Code’ is BS… DMC o7 ---
**Author:** ![Vollhov\_Jr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vollhov_jr/32/510418_2.png) [@Vollhov\_Jr](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vollhov_Jr)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2026, 7:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-24-01-cradle-of-war-general-feedback/512907/645 "2026-09-23T19:58:57Z")
I completely agree with you. The mission visuals have also been simplified. I still can’t understand why this was done in 2018. Here’s how it was in 2017: ![eve_online_screenshot_by_vollhov_dak7cxy](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/1/b/b/1bb3c601e8a50bcb0d0e0ae1b26a30e854f313a6.jpeg) ![eve_online_screenshot_by_vollhov_daaas3d](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/6/e/1/6e15524e06f65dba02b06972b6a1495b62d7ca09.jpeg) ![eve_online_sansha_s_battletower_by_vollhov_datyf3p](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/0/8/d/08d2be79bd368af1086c92b34f12929014a0d205.jpeg) Notice how the **Sansha** ’s Station is hidden under small asteroids, one might say they are camouflaged to make it harder to find, they are still pirates. And here’s what it is now: ![2026.09.08.19.07.57](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/1/9/2/1921a1bf597359a66f6118e0751e943ac320896e.jpeg) This screenshot from 2026 is the same place as in the 2nd screenshot from 2017. Feel the difference. 😭 ---
**Author:** ![Dyver\_Phycad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dyver_phycad/32/358575_2.png) [@Dyver\_Phycad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dyver_Phycad)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2026, 8:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-24-01-cradle-of-war-general-feedback/512907/646 "2026-09-24T08:38:03Z")
Looking at CCP’s design tools for players, like SKINR, this would be a hot mess. CCP would actually have to put effort and dev hours into the tool so that players could create good missions. I do not see that happening in a hundred years. ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Trickster](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mister_trickster/32/505267_2.png) [@Mister\_Trickster](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mister_Trickster)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2026, 11:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-24-01-cradle-of-war-general-feedback/512907/647 "2026-09-24T11:16:13Z")
![82927f7f-4b8c-4d7c-9006-615fcbb66ff9](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/d/d/e/ddeee0da78789cd296efa594a30c8f1d0d6a61fc.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2026, 11:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-24-01-cradle-of-war-general-feedback/512907/648 "2026-09-24T11:18:30Z")
`Large Collidable Overview Clutter` 🤔 🍿 :psyccp: :ccpguard: ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Trickster](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mister_trickster/32/505267_2.png) [@Mister\_Trickster](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mister_Trickster)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2026, 1:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-24-01-cradle-of-war-general-feedback/512907/649 "2026-09-24T13:08:23Z")
Forgotten Frontier Recursive Depot - warp in at 0 and get decloaked by damned roids! Just wonderful design! ---
**Author:** ![Clean\_Shave](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/clean_shave/32/512128_2.png) [@Clean\_Shave](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Clean_Shave)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2026, 3:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-24-01-cradle-of-war-general-feedback/512907/650 "2026-09-24T15:52:24Z")
was gonna hurf ‘n’ blurf, but then I recalled I dont pay and play eve no more, so meh… ---
**Author:** ![Dyver\_Phycad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dyver_phycad/32/358575_2.png) [@Dyver\_Phycad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dyver_Phycad)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2026, 4:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-24-01-cradle-of-war-general-feedback/512907/651 "2026-09-24T16:04:19Z")
But you collide with the NIOs. This is the most hilarious part about the replacement of the LCO with NIOs. Complete bonkers. ---
**Author:** ![Menikolf\_Helugo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/menikolf_helugo/32/512130_2.png) [@Menikolf\_Helugo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Menikolf_Helugo)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2026, 4:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-24-01-cradle-of-war-general-feedback/512907/652 "2026-09-24T16:40:34Z")
I think Muninn should also be included as a third reference point when comparing the Cerberus and Sacrilege. Looking only at Cerberus vs Sacrilege can give a somewhat misleading picture, because both ships have different strengths and weaknesses. Muninn gives us another missile HAC with a different set of trade-offs. It would be interesting to compare realistic PvP fits for all three ships using the same criteria: - applied DPS at 10 / 20 / 30 / 40 km - missile range and application - EHP and active tank - speed and mobility - mid/low slot utility - CPU/PG fitting pressure - ability to control engagement range - realistic damage output rather than maximum EFT DPS ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Trickster](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mister_trickster/32/505267_2.png) [@Mister\_Trickster](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mister_Trickster)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2026, 6:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-24-01-cradle-of-war-general-feedback/512907/653 "2026-09-24T18:21:01Z")
Exactly what gave the idea for the meme. Those things literally check all boxes of LCOs, but are removed from the category on purpose! ---
**Author:** ![Vollhov\_Jr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vollhov_jr/32/510418_2.png) [@Vollhov\_Jr](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vollhov_Jr)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2026, 8:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-24-01-cradle-of-war-general-feedback/512907/654 "2026-09-24T20:56:09Z")
Question. Is Multiboxing allowed for suicide ? 🙄 Is this already being practiced ? ---
**Author:** ![Vollhov\_Jr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vollhov_jr/32/510418_2.png) [@Vollhov\_Jr](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vollhov_Jr)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2026, 8:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-24-01-cradle-of-war-general-feedback/512907/655 "2026-09-24T20:56:53Z")
LOL, why did they have to remove it ? ---
**Author:** ![Drosera\_Binata](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drosera_binata/32/514743_2.png) [@Drosera\_Binata](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Drosera_Binata)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2026, 11:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-24-01-cradle-of-war-general-feedback/512907/656 "2026-09-24T23:46:05Z")
there should be a higher chance of commander spawns in refuges compared to hideaways ---
**Author:** ![Lara\_Agnon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lara_agnon/32/377122_2.png) [@Lara\_Agnon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lara_Agnon)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2026, 6:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-24-01-cradle-of-war-general-feedback/512907/657 "2026-09-25T06:28:38Z")
the main question is - how can it decloak you when warping to it @100km ---
**Author:** ![alighieri](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alighieri/32/512014_2.png) [@alighieri](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/alighieri)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2026, 8:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-24-01-cradle-of-war-general-feedback/512907/658 "2026-09-25T20:39:58Z")
is there another thread that is discussing these war dec changes? ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Trickster](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mister_trickster/32/505267_2.png) [@Mister\_Trickster](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mister_Trickster)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2026, 10:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-24-01-cradle-of-war-general-feedback/512907/659 "2026-09-25T22:01:55Z")
warrping to an anomaly, with a big roid taking about 25% of all 100km vectors - no surprised you may get decloaked. Getting decloaked by a roid warping to a site at 0 - now that was surprising [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-24-01-cradle-of-war-general-feedback/512907.md?page=31) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-24-01-cradle-of-war-general-feedback/512907.md?page=33)