# Version 24.01 - Cradle of War - General Feedback

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-24-01-cradle-of-war-general-feedback/512907>\
**Category:** Announcements\
**Tags:** feedback, release, official\
**Created:** [June 9, 2026, 11:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-24-01-cradle-of-war-general-feedback/512907 "2026-06-09T11:00:07Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![EM00](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/em00/32/416391_2.png) [@EM00](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/EM00)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2026, 12:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-24-01-cradle-of-war-general-feedback/512907/764 "2026-10-20T12:00:05Z")

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Wow that looks like a stereoscopic image. Does it look 3D if you wear the red/blue glasses? 🙃

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**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2026, 1:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-24-01-cradle-of-war-general-feedback/512907/765 "2026-10-20T13:06:29Z")

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You should tune to the proper TV channel or pay your cable subscription to can see the actual display. 👀

🤔 :psyccp: :ccpguard:

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**Author:** ![Dyver\_Phycad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dyver_phycad/32/358575_2.png) [@Dyver\_Phycad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dyver_Phycad)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2026, 3:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-24-01-cradle-of-war-general-feedback/512907/766 "2026-10-20T15:50:14Z")

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> Cradle of War introduced Starter Space to get new pilots ready, and Fractured Skies adds 13 free, pre-fitted AIR Academy ships covering combat, exploration, and mining.
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> Pick any ship and warp into the action. You learn by doing, no fitting knowledge needed or ISK at risk.

And here we go: Exord teaches the newbs a completely different game, with free handouts instead of the player having to work for.

> The first phase of the [updated heads-up display (HUD)](https://www.eveonline.com/news/view/evolution-not-revolution), is coming in November. Available through Feature Preview, the new HUD

Still no update whatsoever on the improvements done by our feedback.

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**Author:** ![Angewoman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/angewoman/32/425566_2.png) [@Angewoman](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Angewoman)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2026, 5:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-24-01-cradle-of-war-general-feedback/512907/767 "2026-10-20T17:23:11Z")

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> [@Dyver\_Phycad](#):
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> improvements done by our feedback

give you a hint, if you’re not on discord, your feedback doesn’t matter as much.. they are paying more attention to discords feedback than here.

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**Author:** ![Anna\_Dyneaux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anna_dyneaux/32/510758_2.png) [@Anna\_Dyneaux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anna_Dyneaux)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2026, 7:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-24-01-cradle-of-war-general-feedback/512907/768 "2026-10-20T19:04:43Z")

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Yeah, we’re only the official forum hosted directly by them themselves, you can’t expect them to pay us any heed.

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**Author:** ![Meridan\_Night](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/meridan_night/32/488304_2.png) [@Meridan\_Night](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Meridan_Night)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2026, 7:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-24-01-cradle-of-war-general-feedback/512907/769 "2026-10-20T19:45:20Z")

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> [@Dyver\_Phycad](#):
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> Exord teaches the newbs a completely different game, with free handouts instead of the player having to work for.

So, it’s just like the teenagers in real life today then?

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**Author:** ![Drosera\_Binata](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drosera_binata/32/514743_2.png) [@Drosera\_Binata](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Drosera_Binata)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2026, 7:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-24-01-cradle-of-war-general-feedback/512907/770 "2026-10-20T19:51:27Z")

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if anyone wants free handouts it is @Zaera_Keena which she wont get

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**Author:** ![CPL593H](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cpl593h/32/515678_2.png) [@CPL593H](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/CPL593H)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2026, 7:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-24-01-cradle-of-war-general-feedback/512907/771 "2026-10-20T19:52:21Z")

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> [@Meridan\_Night](#):
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> So, it’s just like the teenagers in real life today then?

You mean the ones who will live with their parents for another 15 years and not start a family because of parasitic landlords?

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**Author:** ![Drosera\_Binata](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drosera_binata/32/514743_2.png) [@Drosera\_Binata](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Drosera_Binata)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2026, 7:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-24-01-cradle-of-war-general-feedback/512907/772 "2026-10-20T19:55:51Z")

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ok, i am just going to quote a phrase that has been time tested and remains true:

‘The only difference between men and boys is the price of their toys.’

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**Author:** ![Meridan\_Night](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/meridan_night/32/488304_2.png) [@Meridan\_Night](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Meridan_Night)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2026, 8:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-24-01-cradle-of-war-general-feedback/512907/773 "2026-10-20T20:09:37Z")

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> [@CPL593H](#):
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> You mean the ones who will live with their parents for another 15 years and not start a family because of parasitic landlords?

I’m not sure I’ve heard of the ‘parasitic landlords’ before. What are they?

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**Author:** ![Anna\_Dyneaux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anna_dyneaux/32/510758_2.png) [@Anna\_Dyneaux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anna_Dyneaux)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2026, 8:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-24-01-cradle-of-war-general-feedback/512907/774 "2026-10-20T20:28:26Z")

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> [@Meridan\_Night](#):
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> I’m not sure I’ve heard of the ‘parasitic landlords’ before. What are they?

[HOW TO DIFFERENTIATE THE CLASSES IN THERURAL AREAS](https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/volume-1/mswv1_8.htm) What a landlord is.

[REPORT ON AN INVESTIGATION OF THE PEASANT MOVEMENT IN HUNAN](https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/volume-1/mswv1_2.htm) How to deal with the landlord problem.

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**Author:** ![CPL593H](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cpl593h/32/515678_2.png) [@CPL593H](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/CPL593H)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2026, 8:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-24-01-cradle-of-war-general-feedback/512907/775 "2026-10-20T20:43:43Z")

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> [@Meridan\_Night](#):
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> I’m not sure I’ve heard of the ‘parasitic landlords’ before. What are they?

Fair. “Landlords” would have sufficed since “parasitic” is implicit.

Now where are these teenagers living on hand-outs of whom you speak? I ask as someone in their 60s.

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**Author:** ![Meridan\_Night](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/meridan_night/32/488304_2.png) [@Meridan\_Night](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Meridan_Night)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2026, 8:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-24-01-cradle-of-war-general-feedback/512907/776 "2026-10-20T20:58:11Z")

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> [@CPL593H](#):
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> Fair. “Landlords” would have sufficed since “parasitic” is implicit.

Is it implicit? I’ve never heard of the two words used together to refer to someone until now. Didn’t you mean ‘profiteering’ landlords? Just curious. i know some charge exorbitant rent, and that’s probably what you meant. But that is not the same as to say ‘parasitic’.

_Parasite_ is an organism who lives off of another organism, depriving them of some vital source of food/energy and/or causing a deterioration in the health/viability of the host in the process. Known example: pests on a houseplant.

I would argue there are more parasitic tenants than landlords. ‘Parasitic landlord’ seems like an oxymoron to me.

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Be that as it may. Such teenagers are out there. Haggling for discounts, expecting freebies, complaining about products to get a refund (not because there is anything wrong with a product). They’re all over the place, just look around. They don’t want to pay for anything these days, and think they should get free stuff just by virtue of showing up and doing nothing.

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**Author:** ![CPL593H](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cpl593h/32/515678_2.png) [@CPL593H](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/CPL593H)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2026, 9:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-24-01-cradle-of-war-general-feedback/512907/777 "2026-10-20T21:04:55Z")

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> [@Meridan\_Night](#):
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> They’re all over the place, just look around. They don’t want to pay for anything these days, and think they should get free stuff just by virtue of showing up and doing nothing.

I suspect you’re simply trolling, and since this sub-thread is about to get nuked I’ll make one observation.

When I was a teenager, I went to university for free, also receiving a standard maintenance grant. My partner and I lived in low-cost housing provided by Lewisham council. I could listen to the Halle orchestra for 30p at Crystal Palace Park and my public transport costs were heavily subsidized by the GLC.

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**Author:** ![Meridan\_Night](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/meridan_night/32/488304_2.png) [@Meridan\_Night](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Meridan_Night)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2026, 9:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-24-01-cradle-of-war-general-feedback/512907/778 "2026-10-20T21:10:43Z")

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> [@CPL593H](#):
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> I suspect you’re simply trolling,

I don’t troll. But it’s obvious you have no idea what I’m talking about. You obviously haven’t come into contact with 14-19-year-olds _today._ I don’t mean ones from 10-20 years ago. And I have no problem with university students getting scholarship or support money to be able to pay for transit/living cost while they’re studying. Just the fact that you inject these examples shows you have no clue what teenagers are up to these days. So, I might as well be explaining electricity to ants.

I have no interest in further conversing on this, as it’s way off topic. I’ve said all I’ve had to say. If you didn’t understand it by now, you never will.

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**Author:** ![CPL593H](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cpl593h/32/515678_2.png) [@CPL593H](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/CPL593H)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2026, 9:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-24-01-cradle-of-war-general-feedback/512907/779 "2026-10-20T21:13:04Z")

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We’re agreed that I have no idea what you’re talking about, nor have I come across the teenagers of whom you speak.

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**Author:** ![Lucy\_Alfrir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lucy_alfrir/32/382506_2.png) [@Lucy\_Alfrir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lucy_Alfrir)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2026, 9:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-24-01-cradle-of-war-general-feedback/512907/780 "2026-10-20T21:24:59Z")

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Where do I get my free Zaera?

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**Author:** ![Anna\_Dyneaux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anna_dyneaux/32/510758_2.png) [@Anna\_Dyneaux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anna_Dyneaux)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2026, 9:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-24-01-cradle-of-war-general-feedback/512907/781 "2026-10-20T21:26:01Z")

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Forget about that, where do I go to refund mine?

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**Author:** ![Lucy\_Alfrir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lucy_alfrir/32/382506_2.png) [@Lucy\_Alfrir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lucy_Alfrir)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2026, 9:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-24-01-cradle-of-war-general-feedback/512907/782 "2026-10-20T21:26:36Z")

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> [@CPL593H](#):
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> by the GLC.

Wasn’t it Glorious?

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**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2026, 9:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-24-01-cradle-of-war-general-feedback/512907/783 "2026-10-20T21:49:35Z")

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sounds like a hobbit if you don’t realize the generation coming up is godawful.

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