# Version 24.01 - Cradle of War - General Feedback

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-24-01-cradle-of-war-general-feedback/512907>\
**Category:** Announcements\
**Tags:** feedback, release, official\
**Created:** [June 9, 2026, 11:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-24-01-cradle-of-war-general-feedback/512907 "2026-06-09T11:00:07Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Dyver\_Phycad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dyver_phycad/32/358575_2.png) [@Dyver\_Phycad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dyver_Phycad)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2026, 11:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-24-01-cradle-of-war-general-feedback/512907/66 "2026-06-10T11:43:17Z")

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Regarding the chat and other user lists: Not only do they load incredibly slow, they also keep visibly reloading while nothing happens. The list repeatedly blinks every other minute even though no new users entered.

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**Author:** ![indig0F10w](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/indig0f10w/32/466745_2.png) [@indig0F10w](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/indig0F10w)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2026, 12:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-24-01-cradle-of-war-general-feedback/512907/67 "2026-06-10T12:38:58Z")

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Please remove the Achievement points under char name. Useless.

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**Author:** ![Cade102](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cade102/32/462300_2.png) [@Cade102](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cade102)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2026, 12:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-24-01-cradle-of-war-general-feedback/512907/68 "2026-06-10T12:47:45Z")

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The new epic arc is a complete joke.  
End of mission 1 gives you a frigate to use in mission two, but it spawns it back at the 1st agent, so you gotta go back and get it.  
Also doesn’t give you the skill book for it.  
And if you think you can just spawn a Corvette and use that, then lol no joy there unless you’re Caldari because only Ibis are accepted.  
Then it gives you an ECM and remote shield booster (which you also need skills for) but no other fittings then during the mission you’re supposed to somehow kill 2 catalysts and 8 frigates with no other modules being fitted?  
So then, obviously, you die.  
Come on CCPFC  
Play test something.  
Anything.  
Please.

 ![why-you-no](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/7/1/e/71ee3abb8b7d04cb709975330f8dde8c0823c706.png)

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**Author:** ![Dyver\_Phycad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dyver_phycad/32/358575_2.png) [@Dyver\_Phycad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dyver_Phycad)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2026, 12:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-24-01-cradle-of-war-general-feedback/512907/69 "2026-06-10T12:53:06Z")

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This sounds worse than the old style Career and introduction missions. 🤣

We really, REALLY need play test compensations in the form of subscription discounts.

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**Author:** ![Ploing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ploing/32/466885_2.png) [@Ploing](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ploing)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2026, 1:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-24-01-cradle-of-war-general-feedback/512907/70 "2026-06-10T13:15:00Z")

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its tested by google !!!

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**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2026, 1:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-24-01-cradle-of-war-general-feedback/512907/71 "2026-06-10T13:18:29Z")

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Oh…a new expansion. What could possibly go wrong…

https://www.youtube.com/embed/QDpuwqn1hvY?feature=oembed&wmode=opaque&list=RDQDpuwqn1hvY

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**Author:** ![Dyver\_Phycad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dyver_phycad/32/358575_2.png) [@Dyver\_Phycad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dyver_Phycad)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2026, 5:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-24-01-cradle-of-war-general-feedback/512907/73 "2026-06-10T17:04:57Z")

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![grafik](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/9/a/2/9a21366b9a86649d8ffe5ac9ddfe7d33405db84a.png)

Poor UI design from CCP #416452

First of: Why is this button there in the first place? This should remain the 2 distinct buttons for tracking and pinning  
Second: Why is this button not unaccessible if ALL the options within are unaccessible?  
Third: This Milestone display is crap. The mile stones should be at the line that tells you the value, not at the line where the buttons are.

This badge should look like this:

 ![grafik](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/a/2/4/a24da609f80e76efa0b45b7a8df9170a18d919f9.png)

And no, longer values are not an issue either. They are just truncated into K, M, B, T values.

With this design, the card would stay in line with the design pattern of the full card

 ![grafik](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/9/5/e/95ee63315cfbccbab25b40a2fb308abac818fe57.png)

 ![grafik](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/0/5/1/051c5d27eafe40de6cfe235c6bb42bfc242fe2cc.png)

The button options don’T disappear when the title card goes away.

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**Author:** ![Lesican](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lesican/32/448285_2.png) [@Lesican](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lesican)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2026, 5:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-24-01-cradle-of-war-general-feedback/512907/74 "2026-06-10T17:35:22Z")

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Where the new epic arcs tested? I’d love to see a genuine newbro complete them.

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**Author:** ![Sylphique](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sylphique/32/501632_2.png) [@Sylphique](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sylphique)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2026, 5:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-24-01-cradle-of-war-general-feedback/512907/75 "2026-06-10T17:37:12Z")

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I finished the career agents and wanted to try the campaign through mining since I don’t know how to fight. The menus for campaigns are not especially helpful yet. The campaign menu showed a handful of star systems nearby that would have the rocks I’m supposed to mine. However, I travel to these systems and between the belts, I find no such rocks. Twenty belts or so later, I ask in Rookie Help and they say to use the map filter. It’s actually only one system 9 jumps away in the middle of a pirate insurgency - “don’t go there.” So for now, there’s not a feasible method for supporting the campaign. Let down a little, but now I have to wait to train a different ship to go do a different activity. Good time to get up and stretch, go do other things.

✍ The title screen theme is very good.

Side note, I agree that there should be a toggle for achievement points.

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**Author:** ![Lesican](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lesican/32/448285_2.png) [@Lesican](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lesican)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2026, 6:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-24-01-cradle-of-war-general-feedback/512907/76 "2026-06-10T18:08:19Z")

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> [@Cade102](#):
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> The new epic arc is a complete joke.  
> End of mission 1 gives you a frigate to use in mission two, but it spawns it back at the 1st agent, so you gotta go back and get it.  
> Also doesn’t give you the skill book for it.  
> And if you think you can just spawn a Corvette and use that, then lol no joy there unless you’re Caldari because only Ibis are accepted.  
> Then it gives you an ECM and remote shield booster (which you also need skills for) but no other fittings then during the mission you’re supposed to somehow kill 2 catalysts and 8 frigates with no other modules being fitted?  
> So then, obviously, you die.  
> Come on CCPFC  
> Play test something.  
> Anything.  
> Please.

I’ll add to this.

I put an AB on the merlin before i tried the first part. The rats kite faster than the merlin can move with an AB, so I left the mission, grabbed a web and went back to try again.

The friendly rats that the enemies “where” shooting at had despawned when I returned and the full room aggro put me in hull in 2 shot’s.

This was never play tested

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**Author:** ![tnix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tnix/32/501853_2.png) [@tnix](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tnix)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2026, 6:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-24-01-cradle-of-war-general-feedback/512907/77 "2026-06-10T18:17:13Z")

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This must be what happened to me. I left the mission to scrap together a better fit. When I returned I nearly died in a couple of seconds.

I guess I can’t complete it now.

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**Author:** ![EM00](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/em00/32/416391_2.png) [@EM00](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/EM00)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2026, 6:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-24-01-cradle-of-war-general-feedback/512907/78 "2026-06-10T18:43:17Z")

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NPC bounties are not visible in the Select Item box for me anymore. Kinda annoying because seeing the bounty at a glance was useful. Is this info now completely gone from the Select Item box, or is it just a sizing problem with the new UI that unnecessarily crops/chops/moves/resizes things away depending on the size of the window?

The “Cut the Corridor” campaign for the Caldari gives a Scythe ship skin at level 3… Scythe is a Minmatar ship, and the same skin is also given at level 3 of the Minmatar campaign… bug? or secret conspiracy between the empires?

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**Author:** ![Lesican](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lesican/32/448285_2.png) [@Lesican](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lesican)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2026, 6:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-24-01-cradle-of-war-general-feedback/512907/79 "2026-06-10T18:44:20Z")

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best i could come up with @tnix

[Merlin, Test]  
Damage Control II  
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II  
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II

5MN Quad LiF Restrained Microwarpdrive  
Small F-S9 Regolith Compact Shield Extender  
Small F-S9 Regolith Compact Shield Extender  
Small F-S9 Regolith Compact Shield Extender

150mm Railgun II  
150mm Railgun II  
150mm Railgun II

Small Core Defense Field Extender II  
Small Core Defense Field Extender II  
Small Core Defense Field Extender II

Spike S x523  
Javelin S x925

[](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xf5bTbtabTs)

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**Author:** ![Lesican](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lesican/32/448285_2.png) [@Lesican](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lesican)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2026, 6:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-24-01-cradle-of-war-general-feedback/512907/80 "2026-06-10T18:56:55Z")

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It’s pointless doing this btw, the mission won’t complete as the other npc’s have despawned

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**Author:** ![Dyver\_Phycad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dyver_phycad/32/358575_2.png) [@Dyver\_Phycad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dyver_Phycad)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2026, 7:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-24-01-cradle-of-war-general-feedback/512907/81 "2026-06-10T19:15:41Z")

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![grafik](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/5/d/2/5d213d7b5568fe7baf3c2874e04065b00b80c2bd.png)

More UI idiocy from CCP: You have to click on the icon of the region to open the Show Info of the region. You cannot click on the REgion ribbon to open the window. There is also no way to show the region on the map because the right click only shows Show Info and Save Location. Ribbons also do not show a highlight effect when you hover over them with the mouse.

 ![grafik](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/5/d/f/5df87c87f20007e648ec45586149341e9a1f832e.png)

What are Landmarks? Where is a list of suggestions or a comprehensive list about these landmarks? How is a newb supposed to know that?

I am exceedingly puzzled who thought this crap up, coded it, approved it, send it to deploy. Not even AI is this mindbogglingly incompetent.

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**Author:** ![Will\_Florence](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/will_florence/32/501788_2.png) [@Will\_Florence](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Will_Florence)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2026, 8:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-24-01-cradle-of-war-general-feedback/512907/82 "2026-06-10T20:04:18Z")

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Any chance we can get a option to either display the Achievement scores on the Char info screen, as don’t see the point of having this shown if you don’t want it shown.

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**Author:** ![Dyver\_Phycad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dyver_phycad/32/358575_2.png) [@Dyver\_Phycad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dyver_Phycad)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2026, 8:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-24-01-cradle-of-war-general-feedback/512907/83 "2026-06-10T20:07:17Z")

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Oh, about that: These stupid titles show a splash screen all over my entire client window and a sound effect plays. This is extremely great and totally not an issue. This UX design is dismal beyond repair.

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**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2026, 8:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-24-01-cradle-of-war-general-feedback/512907/84 "2026-06-10T20:07:18Z")

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All the objectives for military campaigns for Caldari are blank. Was this intended? I guess there’s a delay in loading - they appeared after a minute or two.

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**Author:** ![Meridan\_Night](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/meridan_night/32/488304_2.png) [@Meridan\_Night](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Meridan_Night)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2026, 8:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-24-01-cradle-of-war-general-feedback/512907/85 "2026-06-10T20:08:19Z")

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> [@Gustav\_Mannfred](#):
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> Also, Proving Grounds still missed.

No, it is not.

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**Author:** ![Gustav\_Mannfred](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gustav_mannfred/32/392828_2.png) [@Gustav\_Mannfred](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gustav_Mannfred)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2026, 8:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-24-01-cradle-of-war-general-feedback/512907/86 "2026-06-10T20:12:53Z")

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why not? they were fun

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