# Victorieux Luxury Yacht Cov Ops Cloak 5 second timer? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [March 12, 2021, 7:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/victorieux-luxury-yacht-cov-ops-cloak-5-second-timer/300055 "2021-03-12T19:45:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 26
**Author:** ![Shipwreck\_Jones](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shipwreck_jones/32/274382_2.png) [@Shipwreck\_Jones](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shipwreck_Jones)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2021, 1:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/victorieux-luxury-yacht-cov-ops-cloak-5-second-timer/300055/26 "2021-03-14T01:52:20Z")
The VLY has been in game for quite a while. This means that we don’t have speculate about whether it is OP or not based upon its stats and role bonuses, because we can look at what’s been happening in game. In fact, that’s exactly where we should be looking. So, is the VLY OP? Well, I personally can’t answer that question. I rarely see them, and know jack ■■■■ about WH’s, where the VLY is apparently more common (some people use them to roll holes). There’s a group complaining about them in the following thread, but I’m also kind of skeptical of their competency. So, I’ll refrain from making any judgements based upon their comments alone. > [@Several yachts or the way how to kill live in WH!](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/several-yachts-or-the-way-how-to-kill-live-in-wh/290428): > > I want to raise a problem with overbalanced ship and mechanics which a killing live in WH. From some time some huge alliances and players started to use new type of WH live ruining. Players bring in target WH system 10-15 Yahts some bombers and long range ships with cloak. So every time when people who live in this system try to explore static/WH, whis gang in several minuts close the hole. In this case no way to catch such yahts and even if some way one yaht will be killed, it will not solve … Also, something to consider is that the VLY is a special edition ship with (afaik) no new sources. Thus, even if it is OP, the problem will naturally become less and less of an issue over time. [https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Victorieux\_Luxury\_Yacht](https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Victorieux_Luxury_Yacht) --- _[View the full topic](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/victorieux-luxury-yacht-cov-ops-cloak-5-second-timer/300055)._