# Voigt-Kampff test for Factional Warfare Bots **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [November 22, 2018, 8:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/voigt-kampff-test-for-factional-warfare-bots/122287 "2018-11-22T08:54:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Venom\_Anarchy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/venom_anarchy/32/490305_2.png) [@Venom\_Anarchy](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Venom_Anarchy)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2018, 12:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/voigt-kampff-test-for-factional-warfare-bots/122287/41 "2018-11-26T00:04:32Z")
> [@Cryloud](#): > > Im sure it would be easy for CCP to get some SQL Server query`s up to face this behaviours or collect data about “sec-status, routes they take” to get them banned or atleast a little bit monitored and then jugded by a person. Problem is they mimic the actions of a new player that has had advice on how not to get caught. The difference is subtle ---
**Author:** ![Bloodclart\_Raider](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bloodclart_raider/32/108221_2.png) [@Bloodclart\_Raider](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bloodclart_Raider)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2018, 1:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/voigt-kampff-test-for-factional-warfare-bots/122287/42 "2018-11-26T01:11:20Z")
I just want them gone I am sick of shooting them. We’re trying to have a war here ---
**Author:** ![Venom\_Anarchy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/venom_anarchy/32/490305_2.png) [@Venom\_Anarchy](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Venom_Anarchy)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2018, 1:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/voigt-kampff-test-for-factional-warfare-bots/122287/43 "2018-11-26T01:50:18Z")
They are literally getting past me because I spend 1 minute to post here there are so many of them ---
**Author:** ![Venom\_Anarchy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/venom_anarchy/32/490305_2.png) [@Venom\_Anarchy](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Venom_Anarchy)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2018, 2:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/voigt-kampff-test-for-factional-warfare-bots/122287/44 "2018-11-26T02:11:15Z")
Qki ler Olgani Kion Ghasha Hashur Medori Flou Reka His Mirko Ricto Miri Qili Resti Mirsto Amarka Umangiar Lohris Mirt Gersti Moiro Eris Berto Ketti Resin Jirton Resur Olgani Kion Mirtino Gressi Lijonte Horest Lohris Mirt Mirko Ricto Basent Kri Miri Qili Minetri Keroo Jita Death Suicide Tiriso Kruz ---
**Author:** ![Bloodclart\_Raider](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bloodclart_raider/32/108221_2.png) [@Bloodclart\_Raider](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bloodclart_Raider)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2018, 5:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/voigt-kampff-test-for-factional-warfare-bots/122287/45 "2018-11-26T05:28:40Z")
> [@Cryloud](#): > > Well thats true, thats why we need threads like this. If you report the bots ingame, nothing happens. Looks like its ignored. Maybe even some players have given up reporting them. And it shows how bad things are if we agree on something ---
**Author:** ![Cryloud](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cryloud/32/108081_2.png) [@Cryloud](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cryloud)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2018, 4:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/voigt-kampff-test-for-factional-warfare-bots/122287/46 "2018-11-26T16:10:58Z")
True dat ---
**Author:** ![Venom\_Anarchy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/venom_anarchy/32/490305_2.png) [@Venom\_Anarchy](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Venom_Anarchy)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2018, 1:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/voigt-kampff-test-for-factional-warfare-bots/122287/47 "2018-11-27T01:47:44Z")
I don’t think it is just the Min - Amarr war zone I think they are active in the Gal - Cal war zone too ---
**Author:** ![Bloodclart\_Raider](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bloodclart_raider/32/108221_2.png) [@Bloodclart\_Raider](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bloodclart_Raider)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2018, 6:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/voigt-kampff-test-for-factional-warfare-bots/122287/48 "2018-11-27T06:45:04Z")
I don’t think we’re saying CCP has given up but they are disposable accounts banning them just delays their return and given how long it takes CCP to be sure they are deserving of the ban hammer it is not affecting them much at all. > [@Rivr\_Luzade](#): > > You are in FW and don’t want to occupy as many of the plexes as possible in search for LP and PVP in general. Yes that is what we want to do but I can only occupy 1 plex where as I can stop 10 plexes being run by exterminating bots, it’s an epidemic. ---
**Author:** ![Capn\_JT\_Kirk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/capn_jt_kirk/32/32384_2.png) [@Capn\_JT\_Kirk](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Capn_JT_Kirk)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2018, 9:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/voigt-kampff-test-for-factional-warfare-bots/122287/49 "2018-11-27T09:43:36Z")
Hasn’t Eve Online always been very permissive about botting? There are a bunch all in the same low sec sys right now… so many that there are 2 at a time landing on accel gates… etc. I dont like bots… but maybe they are just a new form of NPC that is ignored… by Concord… I mean CCP. ---
**Author:** ![Bloodclart\_Raider](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bloodclart_raider/32/108221_2.png) [@Bloodclart\_Raider](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bloodclart_Raider)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2018, 10:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/voigt-kampff-test-for-factional-warfare-bots/122287/50 "2018-11-27T10:30:35Z")
They aren’t an NPC they are doing what they are programmed to do by a player as far as I am aware. Help centre referred to as multiplexing and it is apparently contrary to the terms. Not that I have read them to that extent I just noticed a report bot function and decided against installing a virtual operating system for my bot hunters. Although I might quite enjoy writing bot hunting software and matching my programming skills against the bot master but it is kind of ignoring the fact that hundreds of players are involved in a war that isn’t really meant to be settled like that. ---
**Author:** ![Venom\_Anarchy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/venom_anarchy/32/490305_2.png) [@Venom\_Anarchy](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Venom_Anarchy)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2018, 11:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/voigt-kampff-test-for-factional-warfare-bots/122287/51 "2018-11-27T11:06:32Z")
End result is more bots ---
**Author:** ![Capn\_JT\_Kirk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/capn_jt_kirk/32/32384_2.png) [@Capn\_JT\_Kirk](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Capn_JT_Kirk)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2018, 11:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/voigt-kampff-test-for-factional-warfare-bots/122287/52 "2018-11-27T11:07:33Z")
> [@Bloodclart\_Raider](#): > > They aren’t an NPC I was being a smart ass … they do feel like killing NPCs though…and being ignored by CCP You would not need very much code… I was just thinking on how FW is so dead… the bots remind me of NPCs… and perhaps that is why they are ignored… due to the lack of activity in FW. If all the bots were gone…who would be left? Lastly, if you look at the list of bot names above… I think that they 90% are owned by the same account… ---
**Author:** ![Venom\_Anarchy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/venom_anarchy/32/490305_2.png) [@Venom\_Anarchy](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Venom_Anarchy)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2018, 11:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/voigt-kampff-test-for-factional-warfare-bots/122287/53 "2018-11-27T11:10:05Z")
> [@Capn\_JT\_Kirk](#): > > Lastly, if you look at the list of bot names above… I think that they 90% are owned by the same account… Same player probably. Each account can only have one character logged in ---
**Author:** ![Bloodclart\_Raider](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bloodclart_raider/32/108221_2.png) [@Bloodclart\_Raider](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bloodclart_Raider)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2018, 11:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/voigt-kampff-test-for-factional-warfare-bots/122287/54 "2018-11-27T11:17:02Z")
You could require a captcha to respawn your clone that would prevent them from being AFK at least ---
**Author:** ![Capn\_JT\_Kirk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/capn_jt_kirk/32/32384_2.png) [@Capn\_JT\_Kirk](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Capn_JT_Kirk)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2018, 11:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/voigt-kampff-test-for-factional-warfare-bots/122287/55 "2018-11-27T11:27:35Z")
> [@Venom\_Anarchy](#): > > Qki ler > Olgani Kion > Ghasha Hashur > Medori Flou > Reka His > Mirko Ricto > Miri Qili > Resti Mirsto > Amarka Umangiar > Lohris Mirt > Gersti Moiro > Eris Berto > Ketti Resin > Jirton Resur > Olgani Kion > Mirtino Gressi > Lijonte Horest > Lohris Mirt > Mirko Ricto > Basent Kri > Miri Qili > Minetri Keroo > Jita Death Suicide > Tiriso Kruz I have seen at least 1/2 of these bots just in 24 hours. There were so many in one system they were tripping out on each other when landing on the same FW gates at the same times. None of them fight, the ones I looked up do not have a single kill… just loss after loss 24/7. Many operate in a small group of low sec systems… With the very related names and operating in the same few systems all.. in atrons.. I think it is definately the same script… and I think it is being run by one player for the most part. Come on CCP… Concord these mofos… This one is easy. ---
**Author:** ![Venom\_Anarchy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/venom_anarchy/32/490305_2.png) [@Venom\_Anarchy](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Venom_Anarchy)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2018, 11:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/voigt-kampff-test-for-factional-warfare-bots/122287/56 "2018-11-27T11:41:02Z")
A couple of them are in tristans with a slightly different routine but most are atrons following an identical pattern. 1 is an incursus but has the same pattern as the atrons. These are quite easy to kill compared to a year ago when they had warp core stabs, a more sophisticated loop response to proximity and blacklists. There are punisher and tormentor bots too but I tend to ignore those because I am too busy killing these. ---
**Author:** ![Bloodclart\_Raider](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bloodclart_raider/32/108221_2.png) [@Bloodclart\_Raider](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bloodclart_Raider)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2018, 12:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/voigt-kampff-test-for-factional-warfare-bots/122287/57 "2018-11-27T12:08:28Z")
The only way to deal with the blacklists was to create scarecrows ---
**Author:** ![LouHodo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/louhodo/32/109593_2.png) [@LouHodo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/LouHodo)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2018, 5:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/voigt-kampff-test-for-factional-warfare-bots/122287/58 "2018-11-27T17:45:54Z")
The best way to deal with bots is for CCP to actually make FW more about PVP and less about LP farming. ---
**Author:** ![Venom\_Anarchy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/venom_anarchy/32/490305_2.png) [@Venom\_Anarchy](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Venom_Anarchy)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2018, 1:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/voigt-kampff-test-for-factional-warfare-bots/122287/59 "2018-11-28T01:16:31Z")
> [@LouHodo](#): > > The best way to deal with bots is for CCP to actually make FW more about PVP and less about LP farming. That’s a balancing issue and I don’t envy the task, if you stop them farming one way they just start farming a different way. I’ve not yet heard anyone go into siege mode over my suggestion of a captcha for new pod to spawn. Back in the day you used to have to buy a new pod each time you respawned and I am guessing that people were pleased that they don’t have to do that anymore but would a captcha slow things down too much ? Tick all the boxes containing an Erebus, what’s an Erebus ? ---
**Author:** ![Capn\_JT\_Kirk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/capn_jt_kirk/32/32384_2.png) [@Capn\_JT\_Kirk](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Capn_JT_Kirk)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2018, 2:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/voigt-kampff-test-for-factional-warfare-bots/122287/60 "2018-11-28T02:33:53Z")
As the bots get killed more often than players… what about making a loss of LP penalty if you get killed? 50 mil LP per death but… only on Novice gates as that is all the bots use. Not inside complex. That would hurt the bots. Everyone would be hunting them and It would indeed increase the pvp. Oh and the killer receives the 50 mil LP if the killer is in FW. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/voigt-kampff-test-for-factional-warfare-bots/122287.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/voigt-kampff-test-for-factional-warfare-bots/122287.md?page=4)