# Vote on Niarja

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vote-on-niarja/261294>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [August 19, 2020, 6:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vote-on-niarja/261294 "2020-08-19T18:06:34Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Scarlet\_Starfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scarlet_starfire/32/244125_2.png) [@Scarlet\_Starfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scarlet_Starfire)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2020, 1:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vote-on-niarja/261294/195 "2020-08-20T01:57:25Z")

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> [@Gaming513\_Tyler](#):
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> Having someone else to compete against tends to be a pretty good motivator in my experience. If you’re competing with yourself with no comparison of others, you might be happy with whatever you got at some point, wrether that’s pretty good or trash

That’s true for some if left to their own devices without anyone’s involvement. As far as I’m aware with this system even the kids encourage each other.

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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2020, 1:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vote-on-niarja/261294/196 "2020-08-20T01:58:42Z")

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200000 years of modern man competing with each other, other human variants and the environment in order to survive and prosper…

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**Author:** ![Scarlet\_Starfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scarlet_starfire/32/244125_2.png) [@Scarlet\_Starfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scarlet_Starfire)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2020, 2:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vote-on-niarja/261294/197 "2020-08-20T02:00:37Z")

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Yeah, and what a state society is in. The human race is capable of much better.

Anyway, I for one will be interested to see how it progresses.

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**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2020, 2:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vote-on-niarja/261294/198 "2020-08-20T02:01:50Z")

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> [@Scarlet\_Starfire](#):
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> Anyway, I for one will be interested to see how it progresses.

Without getting into too much detail or political, i think we already are.

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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2020, 2:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vote-on-niarja/261294/199 "2020-08-20T02:01:58Z")

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Without all that competition we’d still be beating each other over the head with sticks.

Competition begets innovation.

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2020, 2:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vote-on-niarja/261294/200 "2020-08-20T02:02:35Z")

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> [@Scarlet\_Starfire](#):
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> If kids get on better with each other they are more likely to help each other.
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> Competition tends to divide more than bring people together, whereas competition against yourself doesn’t effect anyone else.
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> I knew it was being tested in at least one school and last I heard they were getting good results.

The issue was never with there being division due to winners and losers from competition. The issue was always that the winners could be toxic to the losers. And to prevent that requires a great deal of parenting (I’m assuming, as I don’t have kids). People don’t want their kids being toxic little shits, but at the same time, they’re not willing to put in the work, so they take the path of least resistance, which involves deleting the source of the problem.

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**Author:** ![Scarlet\_Starfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scarlet_starfire/32/244125_2.png) [@Scarlet\_Starfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scarlet_Starfire)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2020, 2:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vote-on-niarja/261294/201 "2020-08-20T02:03:02Z")

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Yeah a few world wars and our weapons advance ten-fold.

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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2020, 2:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vote-on-niarja/261294/202 "2020-08-20T02:05:50Z")

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While wars are indeed terrible things, out of those wars came massive advances in medicine and science that have benefited humanity as a whole.

Not to mention all the tech based on those advances that make the modern world tick.

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**Author:** ![Rich\_Darine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rich_darine/32/438327_2.png) [@Rich\_Darine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rich_Darine)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2020, 2:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vote-on-niarja/261294/203 "2020-08-20T02:22:37Z")

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We’re on the verge of another internet argument becoming about Hitler 😂

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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2020, 2:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vote-on-niarja/261294/204 "2020-08-20T02:26:12Z")

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I don’t do Godwin, others might.

Murphy’s got a better law anyway.

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**Author:** ![Scarlet\_Starfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scarlet_starfire/32/244125_2.png) [@Scarlet\_Starfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scarlet_Starfire)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2020, 2:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vote-on-niarja/261294/205 "2020-08-20T02:28:08Z")

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> [@Rich\_Darine](#):
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> We’re on the verge of another internet argument becoming about Hitler 😂

I saw it more as a discussion, a fairly civil one at that.

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**Author:** ![Rich\_Darine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rich_darine/32/438327_2.png) [@Rich\_Darine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rich_Darine)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2020, 2:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vote-on-niarja/261294/206 "2020-08-20T02:29:23Z")

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I’m just glad the ISD’s have their whistles put away. Cause you’re right.

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**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2020, 2:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vote-on-niarja/261294/207 "2020-08-20T02:29:55Z")

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I’d be impressed if CCP had the balls to just say “congrats, you’ve had your fun, but some highsec scrubs and crybabies want their safe space back, so we’re going to reset it.”

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**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2020, 3:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vote-on-niarja/261294/208 "2020-08-20T03:06:53Z")

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The comparison between EVE and sports for kids is pretty ridiculous. There’s an immense difference between a mandatory thing that everyone is required to participate in whether they like it or not and a game that you sign up for with very clear warnings that it’s a competitive game where defeat is possible. It’s like buying Dark Souls instead of a mindless farming game and complaining that you died.

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2020, 3:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vote-on-niarja/261294/209 "2020-08-20T03:09:23Z")

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> [@Merin\_Ryskin](#):
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> It’s like buying Dark Souls instead of a mindless farming game and complaining that you died.

![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/c/6/c69d1f0c4480ad37cd50d66207b7ed609262fd7e.jpeg)

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/1/9/19e13e13e54a5f851ffbdda3b4561e3a67454b4c.png)

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**Author:** ![Hiyora\_Akachi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hiyora_akachi/32/224888_2.png) [@Hiyora\_Akachi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hiyora_Akachi)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2020, 4:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vote-on-niarja/261294/210 "2020-08-20T04:56:57Z")

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Except the voting on Niarja has already been done, and we voted for it to become Trig space. Sorry you thought you’d just win and not need to vote but you don’t get to cry and call a revote now

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**Author:** ![Foggy\_Bernstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/foggy_bernstein/32/407887_2.png) [@Foggy\_Bernstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Foggy_Bernstein)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2020, 5:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vote-on-niarja/261294/211 "2020-08-20T05:12:45Z")

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You started a new character just to repeat the same thing half a dozen posters already said?

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**Author:** ![Hiyora\_Akachi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hiyora_akachi/32/224888_2.png) [@Hiyora\_Akachi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hiyora_Akachi)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2020, 5:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vote-on-niarja/261294/212 "2020-08-20T05:16:58Z")

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Yeah I made this character all the way back in 2012 just to tell you that

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**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2020, 5:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vote-on-niarja/261294/213 "2020-08-20T05:21:12Z")

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That invasion is **STD**

Systems Triglavians Destroy

And as with every STD, you dont wanna go there.

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**Author:** ![Foggy\_Bernstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/foggy_bernstein/32/407887_2.png) [@Foggy\_Bernstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Foggy_Bernstein)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2020, 5:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vote-on-niarja/261294/214 "2020-08-20T05:25:03Z")

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2012? So after nine years of silence, this deep thought was the thing that got you to make your first post?

vOv

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