# Vote on Niarja **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [August 19, 2020, 6:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vote-on-niarja/261294 "2020-08-19T18:06:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 22
**Author:** ![Avaelica\_Kuershin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/avaelica_kuershin/32/478139_2.png) [@Avaelica\_Kuershin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Avaelica_Kuershin)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2020, 10:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vote-on-niarja/261294/450 "2020-09-12T22:32:04Z")
> [@Darlo\_Kubika](#): > > We all know CCP set it from the start of this ‘invasion’ that the trigs will win regardless what the players will do… When a major null bloc decided on what they wanted to see happen, hi sec was almost powerless to prevent the outcome. Even if the events occurred on a weekend, I doubt there would have been any change in outcome. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2020, 10:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vote-on-niarja/261294/451 "2020-09-12T22:49:45Z")
Y’all getting punked. Context, because of removed posts: Darlo was saying that Starship Troopers (the movie) was made by the US military for propaganda purposes. ---
**Author:** ![ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_dorrim_barstorlode/32/361083_2.png) [@ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Dorrim_Barstorlode)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2020, 1:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vote-on-niarja/261294/453 "2020-09-13T01:30:22Z")
Removed some off topic posts. Keep it on topic. ---
**Author:** ![Miran\_Tereven](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/miran_tereven/32/383453_2.png) [@Miran\_Tereven](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Miran_Tereven)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2020, 2:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vote-on-niarja/261294/455 "2020-09-13T02:31:43Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > Context, because of removed posts: Darlo was saying that Starship Troopers (the movie) was made by the US military for propaganda purposes. It was actually made by a pacifist director who tried to parody the book and ended up making a somewhat enjoyable action flick that got people interested in actually reading the book instead. He himself, of course, didn’t read it, because he was too woke. ![absolutely civilian](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/8/8/8878460889175ddd452b4f6a51e8ac688b1419d8.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2020, 2:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vote-on-niarja/261294/456 "2020-09-13T02:38:01Z")
From what I know, most of the movie was already shot before they decided to “base it off of” Starship Troopers - it had a production name of “Bug Hunt” and had nothing to do with Heinlein’s book. Anyways, I only edited my post up there because it felt out of place with the preceding discussion deleted. _(Removed off topic content. -ISD Dorrim Barstorlode)_ ---
**Author:** ![ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_dorrim_barstorlode/32/361083_2.png) [@ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Dorrim_Barstorlode)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2020, 3:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vote-on-niarja/261294/459 "2020-09-13T03:15:30Z")
Removed some posts discussing moderation. Knock it off. First warning. ---
**Author:** ![Vixie\_Trix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vixie_trix/32/204999_2.png) [@Vixie\_Trix](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vixie_Trix)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2020, 5:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vote-on-niarja/261294/461 "2020-09-13T05:05:09Z")
Exactly, it’s like people forgot who actually made Niarja fall… ---
**Author:** ![Darlo\_Kubika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darlo_kubika/32/178136_2.png) [@Darlo\_Kubika](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Darlo_Kubika)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2020, 7:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vote-on-niarja/261294/463 "2020-09-13T07:46:55Z")
> [@Carrus\_Thrace](#): > > Every single Triglavian controlled system was fought over by the players, the only exceptions are some of the EDENCOM fortresses in Amarr space that were pushed by NPCs and the ones copied from Serenity. The player loss is set…at all costs… Even at the cost CCP has to reset player fortresses and call it ‘a mistake’ afterwards… Don’t you think this alone shows the obviousness of CCP’s course? ---
**Author:** ![Tiger\_space\_Thedark](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tiger_space_thedark/32/373728_2.png) [@Tiger\_space\_Thedark](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tiger_space_Thedark)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2020, 6:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vote-on-niarja/261294/466 "2020-09-13T18:24:12Z")
Basicaly you just complain that you lost your home and i bet you didn’t even fight for it. Go back to the corner instead of coming here with your tears ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2020, 6:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vote-on-niarja/261294/469 "2020-09-13T18:40:33Z")
This topic is temporarily closed for at least 4 hours due to a large number of community flags. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2020, 6:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vote-on-niarja/261294/470 "2020-09-14T06:40:38Z")
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**Author:** ![Sylvia\_Kildare](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sylvia_kildare/32/416948_2.png) [@Sylvia\_Kildare](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sylvia_Kildare)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2020, 4:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vote-on-niarja/261294/471 "2020-09-17T04:25:29Z")
> [@Miran\_Tereven](#): > > Roughly 600 people voted. Not only is it a minute fraction of the game’s active playerbase, 57% voted not to change it. Even if they had voted yes CCP doesn’t have a tendency to undo player-made changes. Players adopt new doctrines for ships that become overused and OP and then CCP nerfs them. If that’s not CCP undoing player-made changes to their game… ---
**Author:** ![Yang\_Aurilen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yang_aurilen/32/246642_2.png) [@Yang\_Aurilen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yang_Aurilen)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2020, 5:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vote-on-niarja/261294/472 "2020-09-17T05:21:52Z")
So if the poll on this is an overwhelmingly “No”. Will OP close the thread and make a new poll? ---
**Author:** ![Ichabod\_Crane\_Esq](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ichabod_crane_esq/32/353572_2.png) [@Ichabod\_Crane\_Esq](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ichabod_Crane_Esq)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2020, 10:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vote-on-niarja/261294/473 "2020-09-27T22:04:21Z")
> [@Tater-nuts](#): > > Null systems, as well as FW systems can be re-flipped, high sec Trig systems can not be flipped. yet they remain null or low sec… bad analogy… ---
**Author:** ![Scarlet\_Starfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scarlet_starfire/32/244125_2.png) [@Scarlet\_Starfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scarlet_Starfire)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2020, 11:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vote-on-niarja/261294/474 "2020-09-27T23:23:12Z")
> [@Katarina\_Neeko](#): > > So here we are Niarja has fallen and a lot of players have hard fillings about it. > > So the question is: > > > Would you like if CCP restore Niarja back to a high-sec system? Just put it back, no. Fight to reclaim it, maybe. Of course if it was Jita, I’d say let it burn. ---
**Author:** ![Antihrist\_Pripravnik](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/antihrist_pripravnik/32/502236_2.png) [@Antihrist\_Pripravnik](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Antihrist_Pripravnik)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2020, 10:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vote-on-niarja/261294/475 "2020-09-28T10:59:40Z")
Type the following in a new topic and become enlightened: > [@](#): > > @discobot start advanced tutorial ---
**Author:** ![Tiger\_space\_Thedark](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tiger_space_thedark/32/373728_2.png) [@Tiger\_space\_Thedark](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tiger_space_Thedark)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2020, 3:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vote-on-niarja/261294/476 "2020-09-28T15:45:26Z")
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**Author:** ![Marcus\_Binchiette](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/marcus_binchiette/32/193733_2.png) [@Marcus\_Binchiette](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Marcus_Binchiette)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2020, 5:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vote-on-niarja/261294/477 "2020-09-30T17:21:06Z")
I understood Tat-nuts meaning perfectly. I for one, would have liked the opportunity to re-contest Niarja. Even if doing so required the extensive employment of manpower and resources to achieve. I think that once the major part of highsec was awoken to the threat they would have pushed it back given the opportunity. Such is the case with Nulsov (as it’s alignment can be changed with Entosis) and with FW (which can be changed with plex warfare). I would have liked to have seen something similar with Trig. Invasions. It would have perhaps increased the longevity of the content and made it more enjoyable. ---
**Author:** ![Marcus\_Binchiette](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/marcus_binchiette/32/193733_2.png) [@Marcus\_Binchiette](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Marcus_Binchiette)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2020, 5:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vote-on-niarja/261294/478 "2020-09-30T17:37:29Z")
Nope… The act of sandbox desecration was to bestow finality to the outcome. I wouldn’t suggest that _ **CCP** _ restore Niarja to HS… I am suggesting that _ **WE** _ should be able to, through the application of effort, in game. There is perhaps a large portion of the playerbase who was either unable to assist EDENCOM during the time of that invasion, or who where unaware of the activity, or it’s consequences. It is not accident that the ranks of EDI, and similarly EDENCOM aligned groups were swollen following this event - and that never again were the Kybernaughts able to contest any subsequent system as easily as they had Niarja… This in itself speaks volumes about your so-called vote. ---
**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2020, 8:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vote-on-niarja/261294/479 "2020-09-30T20:22:11Z")
> [@Marcus\_Binchiette](#): > > I for one, would have liked the opportunity to re-contest Niarja. You would have liked it, but you don’t get everything you want. You lost the first time, you don’t get an extra chance just because you don’t like the first result. > I think that once the major part of highsec was awoken to the threat they would have pushed it back given the opportunity. And? Whose fault is it that they didn’t bother to think about the consequences up front? Why should being lazy and/or stupid entitle you to extra chances every time you lose? [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vote-on-niarja/261294.md?page=21) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vote-on-niarja/261294.md?page=23)