# Vote on Niarja **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [August 19, 2020, 6:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vote-on-niarja/261294 "2020-08-19T18:06:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Space\_Reptile](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/space_reptile/32/213160_2.png) [@Space\_Reptile](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Space_Reptile)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 7:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vote-on-niarja/261294/64 "2020-08-19T19:06:16Z")
> [@Katarina\_Neeko](#): > > a lot of players have hard fillings about it. might wanna see your dentist about that ---
**Author:** ![Katarina\_Neeko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/katarina_neeko/32/316543_2.png) [@Katarina\_Neeko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Katarina_Neeko)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 7:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vote-on-niarja/261294/65 "2020-08-19T19:07:01Z")
![waaaat](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/1/8/18853bacd031625fc57cda954ba81681c1e3f001.png) ---
**Author:** ![Gaming513\_Tyler](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gaming513_tyler/32/360798_2.png) [@Gaming513\_Tyler](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gaming513_Tyler)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 7:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vote-on-niarja/261294/66 "2020-08-19T19:07:48Z")
Needs FLEEDENCOM logo over the driver ---
**Author:** ![Jaden\_Jast](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jaden_jast/32/224670_2.png) [@Jaden\_Jast](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jaden_Jast)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 7:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vote-on-niarja/261294/67 "2020-08-19T19:08:07Z")
A lot of the pro-Trig forces are PvP orientated. You can’t shoot back at the pro-Edencom forces trying to do Trig sites while in high sec. Once it turned to low sec, it massively turned in the pro-Trig forces’ favor. I would consider being high sec an advantage because it is harder to disrupt their progress. The progress when it was high sec was very slow taking over 20 hours to get it to low sec. It took less than 5 hours when it was low sec. ---
**Author:** ![Tintallei\_Sharan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tintallei_sharan/32/373000_2.png) [@Tintallei\_Sharan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tintallei_Sharan)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 7:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vote-on-niarja/261294/68 "2020-08-19T19:08:23Z")
> [@Katarina\_Neeko](#): > > most causal high-sec players don’t have good pvp skills/ships or care about pvp in first place… I don’t want to defend it because I don’t want to sit there hours getting blown up over and over by some no real life pvp players that log in game all time and play the game even in their sleep… > > we never had a chance to defend that system. it just simply not fair to say: “why you not defend it” That’s wrong. You had your chance. But you made very clear in your previous paragraph that you did _not want_ to defend it and would rather cry and make excuses about the others being “no-life”. Well if they did no-life for this they deserve the win over the lazy players, end of story. ---
**Author:** ![Mio\_Kugisa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mio_kugisa/32/433122_2.png) [@Mio\_Kugisa](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mio_Kugisa)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 7:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vote-on-niarja/261294/69 "2020-08-19T19:11:40Z")
![tjfe](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/d/6/d6487b4ce89e4535a3e4da7083af4044f760a8cc.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Katarina\_Neeko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/katarina_neeko/32/316543_2.png) [@Katarina\_Neeko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Katarina_Neeko)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 7:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vote-on-niarja/261294/70 "2020-08-19T19:12:10Z")
> [@Gaming513\_Tyler](#): > > Needs FLEEDENCOM logo over the driver ![pl](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/9/4/946962263710ffbcd0cac28e00ca03e04cd06fb3.png) fixed ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 7:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vote-on-niarja/261294/71 "2020-08-19T19:17:46Z")
> [@Tintallei\_Sharan](#): > > no-life Honesltly, I have seen few mindless zombies praising CCP in those invasion sites. I dont know, Why would people bring such cruelty on themselves. For a few isks more? For some other player not being able to undock without losing most of his stuff he gathered in those early months of gameplay? To ■■■■ on the little guy? SHAME. ---
**Author:** ![Theia\_Matova](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/theia_matova/32/222289_2.png) [@Theia\_Matova](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Theia_Matova)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 7:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vote-on-niarja/261294/72 "2020-08-19T19:23:25Z")
Its interesting how people only see their own opinion and even push people out of the game. They also forget that the sandbox pvp game they play require other players. Other players that have different opinions than them. Many players will take break or quit completely because eve is going on chaos state where old rules are forgotten and chaos rules. Hell you dont know anymore which system is high sec, low sec or null anymore. With the coming storms you dont even know what ship to fly in given day or if you need fleet because the debuffs and buffs can ■■■■ up you good. I like PVP but I go to PVP space to do it. If I want abyssal effects I do abyssals and not go to null sec. I also want to fly other ships than triglavian ships and I want to see other ships in space than triglavian ships. People do quit but I smell more people quitting because CCP is making bad design decisions that make the game more confusing. Triglavian invasions alone are ■■■■■■ up mechanic because handful of cheap ass frigs can tackle and kill high ehp ships because the triglavians owns all balls in this game now. Only thing players need to do is sneeze (tackle). In old gate camp mechanic rules were simple that you needed effort to kill ships in high sec. Now you can fart and you wipe dozens of player ships, it does not require skill or balls just an asshole that wants to ruin another guys day. ---
**Author:** ![Tintallei\_Sharan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tintallei_sharan/32/373000_2.png) [@Tintallei\_Sharan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tintallei_Sharan)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 7:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vote-on-niarja/261294/73 "2020-08-19T19:28:05Z")
> [@Nana\_Skalski](#): > > Honesltly, I have seen few mindless zombies praising CCP in those invasion sites. I dont know, Why would people bring such cruelty on themselves. For a few isks more? For some other player not being able to undock without losing most of his stuff he gathered in those early months of gameplay? To ■■■■ on the little guy? SHAME. Lots of talk, few actions. I don’t care what you think about those guys. You lost. Blame yourself. ---
**Author:** ![Zhi\_Fen-Chun](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zhi_fen-chun/32/249257_2.png) [@Zhi\_Fen-Chun](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zhi_Fen-Chun)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 7:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vote-on-niarja/261294/74 "2020-08-19T19:31:04Z")
If you don’t have the stones to risk your ■■■■ to protect your interests, you don’t have the right to complain about it when your interests aren’t protected. Shut the ■■■■ up and live with the consequences of your actions. ---
**Author:** ![Kasumi\_Shinra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kasumi_shinra/32/224696_2.png) [@Kasumi\_Shinra](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kasumi_Shinra)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 7:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vote-on-niarja/261294/75 "2020-08-19T19:36:44Z")
You either missed the point or simply have no clue how this content works. Trig liminalities decrease system security ratings, while Edencom redoubts/bulwarks don’t - which means once edencom are ahead, they can continue grinding without having to worry about pvp encounters (ganking aside). Also, I’m not sure if you realize, but there’re null entities who are pro-edencom. There’re also well-coordinated public edencom communities with decent FCs and experienced pvp pilots. If you think this is about unorganized “high sec players” being bullied by some sort of pvp rape machine, you clearly have no idea what’s going on out there. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 7:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vote-on-niarja/261294/76 "2020-08-19T19:38:50Z")
> [@Katarina\_Neeko](#): > > most causal high-sec players don’t have good pvp skills/ships or care about pvp in first place… So EDENCOM consists entirely of “casuals” while the Trigs are elite PvPers? Good to know. 🕶 > [@Katarina\_Neeko](#): > > I don’t want to defend it because I don’t want to sit there hours getting blown up over and over by some no real life pvp players that log in game all time and play the game even in their sleep… Oh, you don’t _want_ to defend? But you want to just be given a victory for free, right? Sounds like the market has spoken, quite honestly. 🕶 > [@Katarina\_Neeko](#): > > we never had a chance to defend that system. it just simply not fair to say: “why you not defend it” Of course you had a chance to do it. You simply chose to whine about it instead. > [@Vixen\_Vix](#): > > Lost is lost, let it go, choose another game maybe. Maybe the one which is more predictable what **game directors** do with you money put into it. > > CCP executives play EVE as they want, thinking it’s 2003 sandbox game in year 2020. While EVE is now MMO game with full grown, maybe little crippled economy, with bots. Yeah, **bots** , suddenly bot problem is non-existent. Or they will tell you they fight bots with these changes…ruining fun factor to 0. _doesn’t want to play a sandbox game gets a sandbox game anyway complains about it_ > [@Katarina\_Neeko](#): > > at least they made it more easier to defend it and harder to take over… trig players are in-game trolls/pirates its well known People fighting on the side opposite to the one I chose are **trolls!** WAAAAAAHH > [@Katarina\_Neeko](#): > > what we should do is go to Niarja and take it from the pirates/trolls/trig players and offer free and safe passage to all that just want to pass by You mean to say that what **someone else** “should do is go to Niarja and take it from the pirates/trolls/trig players and offer free and safe passage to all that just want to pass by,” while you mine and run missions somewhere else in safety. Carebear is as carebear does. 🕶 ---
**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 7:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vote-on-niarja/261294/77 "2020-08-19T19:40:07Z")
Vote with your guns not with your tears. Next time an important system is invaded, be there. ---
**Author:** ![Theia\_Matova](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/theia_matova/32/222289_2.png) [@Theia\_Matova](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Theia_Matova)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 7:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vote-on-niarja/261294/78 "2020-08-19T19:43:56Z")
Think you completely miss the point. You bring competive mechanic to space that was not meant to be competive. Those people that live in high sec space don’t have pvp ships nor fleets for it. But sure guess your are the type of people that even takes candy from baby and beat your wife because you simply can. ---
**Author:** ![Tiger\_space\_Thedark](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tiger_space_thedark/32/373728_2.png) [@Tiger\_space\_Thedark](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tiger_space_Thedark)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 7:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vote-on-niarja/261294/79 "2020-08-19T19:44:50Z")
nah he will keep complaing on how it was unfair, outragious. ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 7:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vote-on-niarja/261294/80 "2020-08-19T19:44:51Z")
> [@Daichi\_Yamato](#): > > be there. So CCP can laugh at all the small guys being slaugtered by goons, while counting all the coins flowing from the low sec pirates buying $39 SP packages to slain more in shorter time? Thanks, I think I have seen enough already. ---
**Author:** ![Theia\_Matova](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/theia_matova/32/222289_2.png) [@Theia\_Matova](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Theia_Matova)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 7:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vote-on-niarja/261294/81 "2020-08-19T19:44:59Z")
> [@Daichi\_Yamato](#): > > Vote with your guns not with your tears. > > Next time an important system is invaded, be there. Think you completely miss the point. You bring competive mechanic to space that was not meant to be competive. Those people that live in high sec space don’t have pvp ships nor fleets for it. But sure guess your are the type of people that even takes candy from baby and beat your wife because you simply can. ---
**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 7:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vote-on-niarja/261294/82 "2020-08-19T19:45:01Z")
> [@Theia\_Matova](#): > > Think you completely miss the point. You bring competive mechanic to space that was not meant to be competive. If you don’t realise that eve is a competitive game, in **all** it’s areas, maybe you’ve missed the point. ---
**Author:** ![Tiger\_space\_Thedark](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tiger_space_thedark/32/373728_2.png) [@Tiger\_space\_Thedark](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tiger_space_Thedark)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 7:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vote-on-niarja/261294/83 "2020-08-19T19:45:25Z")
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