# Vote on Niarja

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vote-on-niarja/261294>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [August 19, 2020, 6:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vote-on-niarja/261294 "2020-08-19T18:06:34Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Gaming513\_Tyler](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gaming513_tyler/32/360798_2.png) [@Gaming513\_Tyler](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gaming513_Tyler)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 10:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vote-on-niarja/261294/129 "2020-08-19T22:14:29Z")

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> [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#):
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> You can, but your choices have consequences.

Not trying to be a carebear here but he has a point. It’s impossible to be truly neutral in this conflict because CCP made edencom shoot players with negative standings. Unless you think the less than 0.001 microtick you need to be neutral is intended and not a bug

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**Author:** ![Grath\_Telkin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/grath_telkin/32/278234_2.png) [@Grath\_Telkin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Grath_Telkin)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 10:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vote-on-niarja/261294/130 "2020-08-19T22:22:49Z")

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Good thing you’re not shooting players during the invasion, you’re shooting NPCs, something Highsec people should be great at.

Also you had 48 hours to do anything about it, it was announced literally EVERYWHERE and on EVERY social media platform, so the 'had no chance to defend it" is an outright lie.

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**Author:** ![Foggy\_Bernstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/foggy_bernstein/32/407887_2.png) [@Foggy\_Bernstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Foggy_Bernstein)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 10:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vote-on-niarja/261294/131 "2020-08-19T22:26:44Z")

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So…

What happened one year ago?

So many of these:

> [@](#):
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> It’s been a while since we’ve seen (Insert character name here) — their last post was 1 year ago.

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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 10:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vote-on-niarja/261294/133 "2020-08-19T22:27:58Z")

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Neutrals get shot at all the time during invasions, it’s the nature of the beast.

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**Author:** ![Gaming513\_Tyler](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gaming513_tyler/32/360798_2.png) [@Gaming513\_Tyler](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gaming513_Tyler)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 10:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vote-on-niarja/261294/134 "2020-08-19T22:36:11Z")

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In IRL modern-day wars attacking civilians is a war crime. Theres probably other games that don’t force you to be involved in whatever NPC wars happen from time to time, but don’t quote me on that cuz I don’t really play other games much

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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 10:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vote-on-niarja/261294/135 "2020-08-19T22:38:27Z")

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> [@Gaming513\_Tyler](#):
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> In IRL modern-day wars attacking civilians is a war crime

It still happens though, and the people who do it rarely get punished.

I’m not going to comment further on this because it’s edging towards real life politics which is verboten.

Warfare being the continuation of politics with other means.

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**Author:** ![Vixen\_Vix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vixen_vix/32/384059_2.png) [@Vixen\_Vix](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vixen_Vix)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 10:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vote-on-niarja/261294/136 "2020-08-19T22:43:25Z")

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> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#):
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> It’s **CONTENT**. CCP presents to you a dynamic, changing environment, and then you choose how you respond to it with the tools you’re provided.
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> You can’t have a sandbox without sand to play with.

I’m on one month vacation on Bermuda not playing the game. Beat it. Beach is beautiful and full of sand. I hope I’ll have hi-sec to return to. I started in hi-sec, you know. I don’t like while the game plays me not the other way.

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**Author:** ![Vixen\_Vix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vixen_vix/32/384059_2.png) [@Vixen\_Vix](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vixen_Vix)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 10:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vote-on-niarja/261294/137 "2020-08-19T22:46:00Z")

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> [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#):
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> If you decide that you don’t like this, may I acquire your stuff?

No. I’ll play alpha. What made you think I’ll give my stuff to you?

> [@Roan\_Pico](#):
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> Right, get your safezoner arse up, CTA, take a null region of your choice, then organize some player driven concord, put up tax free stations and ■■■■.
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> Your turn. No mechanics will stop you to do so. Waiting for positive results.

Oh no, not so fast. We must change the rules that apply to null. In 2023 there will be new race: Quadlavians. They will beat Triglavians and take sov of null with new mechanic in under 20 hours, then they will turn system security up to 0.5 and above. Sure you can still use null mechanic like bubbles or cyno and fly Titans/Supers but Quadlavians will have them too and will spawn on every station and gate. Sounds good? You must choose: do you side with Triglavians or Quadlavians? That would spice up the game and made it less boring in null than just Rorqual mining and status quo wars. In Chapter 4 they will randomly turn the rest few null systems into WH making only small null islands. The null ore will get nerfed too. You should be happy and very content with the other surprises we have for you. In Chapter 5.

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**Author:** ![Surly\_Bill](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/surly_bill/32/221329_2.png) [@Surly\_Bill](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Surly_Bill)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 10:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vote-on-niarja/261294/138 "2020-08-19T22:52:50Z")

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Was it not EVE players that put Niarja in the state that it’s in?  
 ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/e/e/eefd2858e4685e8a2fcde9ca6cc7fbba6fc9983e.gif)

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**Author:** ![Katarina\_Neeko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/katarina_neeko/32/316543_2.png) [@Katarina\_Neeko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Katarina_Neeko)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 10:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vote-on-niarja/261294/139 "2020-08-19T22:54:37Z")

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Edencom would have won if Imperium (large null sec Alliances) did not help out the Triglavian

in fact Niarja lost to Triglavians in record time!

> **[Triglavian Invasion underway in Niarja - INN](https://imperium.news/triglavian-invasion-underway-in-niarja/)**
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> The Triglavian Collective has invaded the system of Niarja. This high-sec choke-point occupies a critical position in the Amarr/Jita shipping lanes.

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**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 10:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vote-on-niarja/261294/140 "2020-08-19T22:55:48Z")

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Udema Next Pls, then Hek 🤪

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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 10:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vote-on-niarja/261294/141 "2020-08-19T22:57:26Z")

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What colour is Jita’s star?

:evil:

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**Author:** ![Surly\_Bill](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/surly_bill/32/221329_2.png) [@Surly\_Bill](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Surly_Bill)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 10:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vote-on-niarja/261294/142 "2020-08-19T22:57:29Z")

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Last time I looked the Imperium was made up of EVE players.

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**Author:** ![Katarina\_Neeko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/katarina_neeko/32/316543_2.png) [@Katarina\_Neeko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Katarina_Neeko)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 10:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vote-on-niarja/261294/143 "2020-08-19T22:58:28Z")

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> [@Surly\_Bill](#):
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> Last time I looked the Imperium was made up of EVE players.

who knows maybe they are bots Kappa

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**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 10:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vote-on-niarja/261294/144 "2020-08-19T22:58:36Z")

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> [@Katarina\_Neeko](#):
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> Edencom would have won if Imperium (large null sec Alliances) did not help out the Triglavian

If High Sec is the kiddie pool then they should have stayed out of the kiddie pool and you need to leave the kiddie pool 🤣

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**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 11:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vote-on-niarja/261294/145 "2020-08-19T23:02:16Z")

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> [@Katarina\_Neeko](#):
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> who knows maybe they are bots Kappa

Maybe all the anti-triglavian players are bots so we should reverse any system where edencom has won and flip them to nullsec.

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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 11:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vote-on-niarja/261294/146 "2020-08-19T23:03:35Z")

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/deploys Tear Collection Array II

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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 11:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vote-on-niarja/261294/148 "2020-08-19T23:05:58Z")

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Indeed, it’s possible to think of yourself as neutral and act as such; what everybody else thinks is another matter entirely.

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**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 11:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vote-on-niarja/261294/149 "2020-08-19T23:14:06Z")

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> [@Gaming513\_Tyler](#):
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> In IRL modern-day wars attacking civilians is a war crime.

I don’t think the trigs or edoncom care.

What’s the Quafe recipe?

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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 11:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vote-on-niarja/261294/150 "2020-08-19T23:18:52Z")

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