# Vote on Niarja

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vote-on-niarja/261294>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [August 19, 2020, 6:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vote-on-niarja/261294 "2020-08-19T18:06:34Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 11:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vote-on-niarja/261294/151 "2020-08-19T23:20:06Z")

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Nom nom 😋

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**Author:** ![Commissar\_Iron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/commissar_iron/32/239836_2.png) [@Commissar\_Iron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Commissar_Iron)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 11:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vote-on-niarja/261294/152 "2020-08-19T23:20:46Z")

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Maybe the triglavians will raid their HQ and we can find out

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**Author:** ![Nicholas\_Kondur](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicholas_kondur/32/420734_2.png) [@Nicholas\_Kondur](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicholas_Kondur)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 11:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vote-on-niarja/261294/153 "2020-08-19T23:20:55Z")

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I’m likely not in the majority but I myself happen to be a high sec care bear. Yet I’m also one of the original kybernaut members that’s fought in every major invasion fleet. Not disagreeing with the fact that most carebears don’t want random high sec systems going null. I’m just stating that not all carebears fit that mold.

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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 11:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vote-on-niarja/261294/154 "2020-08-19T23:26:23Z")

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Did you know that the decent Dredd film kind of references Soylent Green when he calls for a crew to take the mess on the floor to Resyk?

> _Nothing goes to waste in Mega-City One, not even the dead. Due to the massive population of the city, and incredibly close confines, burying the dead is a privilege reserved for the super-rich. Most corpses are sent to the nearest Resyk centre, where the body is broken down into its component parts, and rendered into other materials. Funeral services are frequently held at Resyk so the bereaved can say goodbye to their loved ones, and purchase reasonably priced souvenirs at the gift shop_

Other materials being a euphemism for food. IIRC one of the creators of the comic strip said that Mega-City One was inspired by the book and 2000AD has a relationship with the author in that they’ve run the Stainless Steel Rat series of books in the comic.

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**Author:** ![HumpityDumpity\_Doo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/humpitydumpity_doo/32/397283_2.png) [@HumpityDumpity\_Doo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/HumpityDumpity_Doo)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 11:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vote-on-niarja/261294/155 "2020-08-19T23:34:12Z")

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I’m a care bear and I wanted Niarja to fall

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**Author:** ![Foggy\_Bernstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/foggy_bernstein/32/407887_2.png) [@Foggy\_Bernstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Foggy_Bernstein)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 11:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vote-on-niarja/261294/158 "2020-08-19T23:36:56Z")

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> [@HumpityDumpity\_Doo](#):
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> I’m a care bear

Welcome to the 99%. Don’t let the tough talk fool you. Most people posting how elite they are would ■■■■ their pants if they didn’t have an FC telling them what to do and a blob to back them up.

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**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 11:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vote-on-niarja/261294/159 "2020-08-19T23:38:28Z")

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Confirming my blob is bigger than your blob.

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**Author:** ![Commissar\_Iron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/commissar_iron/32/239836_2.png) [@Commissar\_Iron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Commissar_Iron)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 11:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vote-on-niarja/261294/161 "2020-08-19T23:43:48Z")

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FC there’s a mean post calling us a blob

What do

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**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 11:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vote-on-niarja/261294/162 "2020-08-19T23:45:40Z")

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Put your blob in my wormhole

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**Author:** ![Foggy\_Bernstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/foggy_bernstein/32/407887_2.png) [@Foggy\_Bernstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Foggy_Bernstein)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 11:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vote-on-niarja/261294/163 "2020-08-19T23:47:36Z")

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Oh look. Another four hour old character looking for rep. Try LAGL for a week and then come back over here.

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**Author:** ![Commissar\_Iron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/commissar_iron/32/239836_2.png) [@Commissar\_Iron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Commissar_Iron)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 11:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vote-on-niarja/261294/164 "2020-08-19T23:50:00Z")

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Who are you

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**Author:** ![Vixen\_Vix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vixen_vix/32/384059_2.png) [@Vixen\_Vix](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vixen_Vix)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 11:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vote-on-niarja/261294/165 "2020-08-19T23:54:00Z")

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> [@Roan\_Pico](#):
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> I was really expecting something like this. Lots of excuses and a 5-yo’s fantasy story.

Yup, like the one with null blackout. You must be really blind. Good luck with storms.

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**Author:** ![Tintallei\_Sharan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tintallei_sharan/32/373000_2.png) [@Tintallei\_Sharan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tintallei_Sharan)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2020, 12:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vote-on-niarja/261294/167 "2020-08-20T00:13:21Z")

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> [@Theia\_Matova](#):
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> Gankers are always fitted for ganking when mission runners are fitted for fits that give gankers easy hole to push their ammo in. That is not competition or real pvp… its rape.

First of all, comparing the act of killing an internet spaceship to a rape is disgusting.

But more importantly for the topic, yes, it absolutely IS competition and real PvP.

You just have to grow-up a bit and understand that the PvP part start way before the moment ships are actually shooting each other.

When you fit your ship, it is already competition and real PvP. If you decide to undock a ship that is not able to properly defend itself, then you are already doing a PvP mistake. I’m pretty sure you are gonna denny that and cry about how “yOu ArE jUsT pLaYiNg FoR fUn”, but the fact is, it doesn’t matter.

You can’t ask a soccer player to not score goals against your team because “you are playing soccer for fun and you don’t like losing”. Same goes for EvE.

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**Author:** ![Tokaguwa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tokaguwa/32/244455_2.png) [@Tokaguwa](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tokaguwa)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2020, 12:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vote-on-niarja/261294/168 "2020-08-20T00:24:27Z")

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Well said

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**Author:** ![HumpityDumpity\_Doo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/humpitydumpity_doo/32/397283_2.png) [@HumpityDumpity\_Doo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/HumpityDumpity_Doo)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2020, 12:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vote-on-niarja/261294/169 "2020-08-20T00:28:17Z")

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What I really want to happen is that the ‘traitors’ who joined the trigs lose security status and that eventually a method to beat back the trig invasion happens and that all these lovely trig sympathisers find themselves with a -10 sec status.

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**Author:** ![Avaelica\_Kuershin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/avaelica_kuershin/32/478139_2.png) [@Avaelica\_Kuershin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Avaelica_Kuershin)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2020, 12:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vote-on-niarja/261294/170 "2020-08-20T00:36:59Z")

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> [@Foggy\_Bernstein](#):
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> What happened one year ago?

Blackout?

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**Author:** ![bouninng](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bouninng/32/412683_2.png) [@bouninng](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/bouninng)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2020, 12:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vote-on-niarja/261294/171 "2020-08-20T00:46:58Z")

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Vote has already been done at Niarja that day.

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**Author:** ![Scarlet\_Starfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scarlet_starfire/32/244125_2.png) [@Scarlet\_Starfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scarlet_Starfire)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2020, 1:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vote-on-niarja/261294/172 "2020-08-20T01:03:47Z")

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> [@Justin\_Andrard](#):
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> Didn’t the players vote when when EDENCOM and Triglavians were battling over the system?

Yeah, in a way they did.

I think CCP just got fed up with the arguments and decided to let the players sort it out for themselves.

So if nobody defends obviously they don’t care much what it is.

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2020, 1:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vote-on-niarja/261294/173 "2020-08-20T01:07:07Z")

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> [@HumpityDumpity\_Doo](#):
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> What I really want to happen is that the ‘traitors’ who joined the trigs lose security status and that eventually a method to beat back the trig invasion happens and that all these lovely trig sympathisers find themselves with a -10 sec status.

Here’s the thing you might be overlooking: they might win _again_. Unless, of course, you want it to happen in a way in which they can’t fight back, and their loss would be guaranteed, which would indeed be quite a carebear stance.

> [@Tintallei\_Sharan](#):
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> You can’t ask a soccer player to not score goals against your team because “you are playing soccer for fun and you don’t like losing”. Same goes for EvE.

Where I live, they’re already outlawing competitive sports in school, removing “points” and “winners” and “losers” from competitions, trying to ban contact sports, etc. etc.

Also, I’ve _quite literally_ played FPS games recently in which I’ve observed players complaining that they were getting shot by the enemy team, and not allowed to take their objectives/farm their points in peace. And I’m not even talking about hardcore survival games here, which have their own _massive_ carebear whining problem.

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**Author:** ![Scarlet\_Starfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scarlet_starfire/32/244125_2.png) [@Scarlet\_Starfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scarlet_Starfire)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2020, 1:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vote-on-niarja/261294/174 "2020-08-20T01:12:43Z")

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> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#):
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> Where I live, they’re already outlawing competitive sports in school, removing “points” and “winners” and “losers” from competitions, trying to ban contact sports, etc. etc.

Sounds good to me, that’s what should happen in all schools and it probably will be the norm eventually.

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