# Want to keep new players - Blatant scamming no longer has a place in modern eve **URL:** \ **Category:** Player Features & Ideas\ **Created:** [June 28, 2021, 7:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/want-to-keep-new-players-blatant-scamming-no-longer-has-a-place-in-modern-eve/318041 "2021-06-28T07:31:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2021, 3:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/want-to-keep-new-players-blatant-scamming-no-longer-has-a-place-in-modern-eve/318041/21 "2021-08-08T15:02:17Z")
> [@Mahalakala](#): > > That doesn’t want me to stick around For some people it does. Not everyone is like you. > [@Mahalakala](#): > > why isn’t there a allsec with very limited resources? You mean **zero** resources. ---
**Author:** ![Lugh\_Crow-Slave](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugh_crow-slave/32/441552_2.png) [@Lugh\_Crow-Slave](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugh_Crow-Slave)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2021, 3:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/want-to-keep-new-players-blatant-scamming-no-longer-has-a-place-in-modern-eve/318041/22 "2021-08-08T15:41:04Z")
> [@Mahalakala](#): > > That doesn’t want me to stick around- I’m just getting into the routine, getting into the game only to be knocked back to day one. Ccp put out the data that showed players were far more likely to stick around if they were killed within their first few weeks. > [@Mahalakala](#): > > why isn’t there a allsec with very limited resources? It’s called docking. Eve is a 100% pvp game. There is no activity that does not put you in direct competition with other players. What would be worse for new players is giving them the illusion it is anything else. ---
**Author:** ![Mahalakala](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mahalakala/32/283689_2.png) [@Mahalakala](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mahalakala)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2021, 4:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/want-to-keep-new-players-blatant-scamming-no-longer-has-a-place-in-modern-eve/318041/23 "2021-08-08T16:55:08Z")
That’s fair and agee it’s one person:s opinion with limited exposure to the long history of the game. ---
**Author:** ![Mahalakala](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mahalakala/32/283689_2.png) [@Mahalakala](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mahalakala)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2021, 5:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/want-to-keep-new-players-blatant-scamming-no-longer-has-a-place-in-modern-eve/318041/24 "2021-08-08T17:00:05Z")
Interested in the data about that- would you know where that is do you? Or at least point me in a direction? I’ve always loved big data and it seems ccp is pretty open with theirs. ---
**Author:** ![Lugh\_Crow-Slave](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugh_crow-slave/32/441552_2.png) [@Lugh\_Crow-Slave](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugh_Crow-Slave)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2021, 5:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/want-to-keep-new-players-blatant-scamming-no-longer-has-a-place-in-modern-eve/318041/25 "2021-08-08T17:10:42Z")
fan fest a few years back. I think it was the same year CODE trolled the AT ---
**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2021, 10:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/want-to-keep-new-players-blatant-scamming-no-longer-has-a-place-in-modern-eve/318041/26 "2021-08-08T22:20:59Z")
It’s fanfest 2015. CCP rise did a [New Player Experience](https://youtu.be/A92Ge2S8M1Y) presentation. And there’s always this: [https://forums-archive.eveonline.com/message/5504176#post5504221](https://forums-archive.eveonline.com/message/5504176#post5504221) ---
**Author:** ![Mahalakala](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mahalakala/32/283689_2.png) [@Mahalakala](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mahalakala)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2021, 12:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/want-to-keep-new-players-blatant-scamming-no-longer-has-a-place-in-modern-eve/318041/27 "2021-08-09T00:01:43Z")
Thank you both- interesting read. Felt like the intro into the game was great considering the learning curve. Career agents were excellent intro. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2021, 12:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/want-to-keep-new-players-blatant-scamming-no-longer-has-a-place-in-modern-eve/318041/28 "2021-11-07T00:02:41Z")
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