# War Dec Abuse, Driving Small Alliances and New Players Away **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [June 15, 2018, 11:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-dec-abuse-driving-small-alliances-and-new-players-away/83264 "2018-06-15T23:05:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![Drago\_Shouna](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drago_shouna/32/350651_2.png) [@Drago\_Shouna](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Drago_Shouna)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 4:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-dec-abuse-driving-small-alliances-and-new-players-away/83264/181 "2018-06-16T16:57:48Z")
> [@The\_Dunning\_Kruger](#): > > If you don’t like the game, then move on to another game that your peanut-sized brain can cope with. EVE doesn’t have to change just because **you** are too stupid to play it. > > I’m personally going to wardec and hunt you now until you quit. Entitled kids like yourself have no place anywhere near EVE. I’ll do the game and the community a great favor kicking you out. > [@The\_Dunning\_Kruger](#): > > If anyone wants free targets, join the corp “Eternal Bonfire” in-game. Corporations can apply to “Black Marker”. Wardec against mimi45’s corp goes out tomorrow. Time to make them all quit, for the betterment of the community! Other players are entitled to a different opinion without someone like you threatening to drive them from the game. So until ISD or CCP intervene in posts like this… How about you go and grow the ■■■■ up? ---
**Author:** ![mimi45](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mimi45/32/77591_2.png) [@mimi45](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/mimi45)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 4:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-dec-abuse-driving-small-alliances-and-new-players-away/83264/182 "2018-06-16T16:58:39Z")
You are continually writing about derailing, buy you know, you are absolutely right Eve need deraling because in this 15 years world video gaming went futher and Eve stay in same place where it was 2003. 😆 ---
**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 5:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-dec-abuse-driving-small-alliances-and-new-players-away/83264/183 "2018-06-16T17:06:52Z")
Look I don’t care if you stay around and play a game you don’t actually like because of the remote chance that it will one day completely change and transform into a carebear utopia. I just think there are probably a lot of other games that would fit better what you call fun and you are just wasting your time here. But it is your time and money, so who am I to tell you anything. ---
**Author:** ![Nitshe\_Razvedka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nitshe_razvedka/32/18392_2.png) [@Nitshe\_Razvedka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nitshe_Razvedka)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 5:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-dec-abuse-driving-small-alliances-and-new-players-away/83264/184 "2018-06-16T17:08:13Z")
> [@Ima\_Wreckyou](#): > > You have not written a single post where you address the actual topic of any of the threads you post in. All you do is some cheap trolling to get a reaction at any cost. And then you wonder why they ban you again and again. > > Good luck Nitshe. I will just ignore you from now on and not feed your trolling. > > 🐐🐐🐐 I’m sorry a Ganker from Code would feel this way. I have gone out of my way to be polite and have been diligent in answering your comments. Even your toxic comments I have shown forgiveness and tolerance. Could I suggest James315 creates a safe space, maybe your own forum offsite for those easily triggered. Where you can work through your issues. You take care Ima. o7 😀😀😀 ---
**Author:** ![mimi45](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mimi45/32/77591_2.png) [@mimi45](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/mimi45)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 5:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-dec-abuse-driving-small-alliances-and-new-players-away/83264/185 "2018-06-16T17:10:47Z")
ofc, I just want to spend Plex I have and fill the gap until Dual Universe is lunched, fyi, there some very interesting people and corps already there 😉 ---
**Author:** ![The\_Dunning\_Kruger](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/the_dunning_kruger/32/414724_2.png) [@The\_Dunning\_Kruger](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/The_Dunning_Kruger)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 5:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-dec-abuse-driving-small-alliances-and-new-players-away/83264/186 "2018-06-16T17:11:14Z")
> [@mimi45](#): > > Eve need deraling because in this 15 years world video gaming went futher and Eve stay in same place where it was 2003. 😆 How would you know? You weren’t even born when EVE came out. > [@Drago\_Shouna](#): > > Other players are entitled to a different opinion without someone like you threatening to drive them from the game. He wants World of Warcraft with spaceships. Dumbed down to a level where a low-IQ person can cope with it. Removing him from EVE is the best both for EVE and himself. ---
**Author:** ![mimi45](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mimi45/32/77591_2.png) [@mimi45](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/mimi45)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 5:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-dec-abuse-driving-small-alliances-and-new-players-away/83264/187 "2018-06-16T17:13:10Z")
> [@The\_Dunning\_Kruger](#): > > He wants World of Warcraft with spaceships. Dumbed down to a level where a low-IQ person can cope with it. Removing him from EVE is the best both for EVE and himself. I love you to 😘 ---
**Author:** ![The\_Dunning\_Kruger](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/the_dunning_kruger/32/414724_2.png) [@The\_Dunning\_Kruger](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/The_Dunning_Kruger)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 5:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-dec-abuse-driving-small-alliances-and-new-players-away/83264/188 "2018-06-16T17:13:41Z")
> [@mimi45](#): > > I love you to 😘 ❤ Still going to kick you out, though. No hard feelings. ---
**Author:** ![Andresoni\_Janau](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/andresoni_janau/32/240452_2.png) [@Andresoni\_Janau](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Andresoni_Janau)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 5:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-dec-abuse-driving-small-alliances-and-new-players-away/83264/189 "2018-06-16T17:13:44Z")
Oh look another arrogant long time player who thinks the game wouldn’t die without Alphas. ---
**Author:** ![mimi45](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mimi45/32/77591_2.png) [@mimi45](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/mimi45)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 5:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-dec-abuse-driving-small-alliances-and-new-players-away/83264/190 "2018-06-16T17:15:08Z")
I’ll went out when I spend all my PLEXs and when Dual Universe will be ready till then I’ll will be here just for fun 😘 ---
**Author:** ![Andresoni\_Janau](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/andresoni_janau/32/240452_2.png) [@Andresoni\_Janau](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Andresoni_Janau)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 5:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-dec-abuse-driving-small-alliances-and-new-players-away/83264/191 "2018-06-16T17:15:51Z")
They used zkill to pick alliances with low numbers of active pilots. This is exactly their fault. Nice try with the logical fallacy. ---
**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 5:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-dec-abuse-driving-small-alliances-and-new-players-away/83264/192 "2018-06-16T17:18:10Z")
> [@mimi45](#): > > Dual Universe I’m sure it will be anything you dreamed of. Good luck o7 And once you are back because it is devoid of meaning and actual content. Try to not forget why that’s the case. You may not understand this now but I’m sure you will in the future. ---
**Author:** ![Andresoni\_Janau](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/andresoni_janau/32/240452_2.png) [@Andresoni\_Janau](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Andresoni_Janau)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 5:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-dec-abuse-driving-small-alliances-and-new-players-away/83264/193 "2018-06-16T17:18:15Z")
Your misguided attempts at forming sentences in english hurt my eyes more than anything else you could possibly do. Congrats. ---
**Author:** ![Mortlake](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mortlake/32/510240_2.png) [@Mortlake](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mortlake)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 5:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-dec-abuse-driving-small-alliances-and-new-players-away/83264/194 "2018-06-16T17:25:15Z")
> [@Andresoni\_Janau](#): > > Your misguided attempts at forming sentences in english hurt my eyes more than anything else you could possibly do. Congrats. It’s ‘English’. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 5:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-dec-abuse-driving-small-alliances-and-new-players-away/83264/195 "2018-06-16T17:32:40Z")
> [@Andresoni\_Janau](#): > > They used zkill to pick alliances with low numbers of active pilots. This is exactly their fault. Nice try with the logical fallacy. Zkill doesnt show the number of active pilots, only the number of active PVP pilots. PvE pilots do not show up on Zkillboard, and most PVEers do not even bother to register with Zkillboard, which is the only way they would show up. So no, you are wrong. Also, what logical fallacy are you referring to? I think you are using that word without realizing what it actually means. ---
**Author:** ![James\_Zimmer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/james_zimmer/32/475633_2.png) [@James\_Zimmer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/James_Zimmer)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 5:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-dec-abuse-driving-small-alliances-and-new-players-away/83264/196 "2018-06-16T17:51:36Z")
> [@Black\_Pedro](#): > > Why? The wardeccers are paying customers too. Some of them new and looking for something to do. Sure, but you could use this argument to justify any behavior, and obviously some behaviors are not tolerated by CCP, either in game design or in the EULA. > [@Black\_Pedro](#): > > That said, I do think a social corp should be implemented so that players like the OP who are clearly not ready to compete can have a shared social space and name to wallow in until they get bored and quit the corp (or Eve entirely), or hopefully use to get better and more organized finally stepping up as a group to play the real game. I think we agree here, I would just want to do it in a way that felt more natural/accessible. If you create a corp, by default it would be a “social corp”. Drop an Astrahus, enter an alliance etc. and a little warning pops up about wardecs and it says “Are you sure you want to do this”, press yes, and now welcome to the game. ---
**Author:** ![z0rberg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/z0rberg/32/29223_2.png) [@z0rberg](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/z0rberg)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 5:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-dec-abuse-driving-small-alliances-and-new-players-away/83264/197 "2018-06-16T17:54:46Z")
> [@James\_Zimmer](#): > > natural/accessible I agree. War declaration mechanics should be mainstreamed. Any suggestion of a “social corp” is not natural. ---
**Author:** ![Andresoni\_Janau](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/andresoni_janau/32/240452_2.png) [@Andresoni\_Janau](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Andresoni_Janau)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 5:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-dec-abuse-driving-small-alliances-and-new-players-away/83264/198 "2018-06-16T17:56:01Z")
The fact that you feel this is a valid attitude that will make me bow to your amazing wisdom XD just plain hilarious. I genuinely pity your limited perceptions and focus on disrupting others, this game is literally a miniature universe, and all you can see is the kill board. You people claim i’m the problem yet insist that anyone who doesn’t play exactly the way you say is just an idiot, you’re choking on your own hypocrisy so hard that it just keeps regurgitating out in the form of more lackluster insults. You have no point, you have no reasoning, just “whateva, I do what I want! random millenial insult!” Can one of you sad little beings come up with 1 single logical reason why the war system should be abusable for piracy? Just one, but again, not “rawr this game is bloooood u carebear hahah me wardec now”, but a basic statement of reason. Haven’t seen a single one yet, just condescending lecturing and arrogance from pilots who seem to genuinely relish the idea of making this game a ghost town. ---
**Author:** ![z0rberg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/z0rberg/32/29223_2.png) [@z0rberg](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/z0rberg)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 5:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-dec-abuse-driving-small-alliances-and-new-players-away/83264/199 "2018-06-16T17:56:34Z")
Angry Wall of Text detected. ---
**Author:** ![Andresoni\_Janau](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/andresoni_janau/32/240452_2.png) [@Andresoni\_Janau](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Andresoni_Janau)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 5:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-dec-abuse-driving-small-alliances-and-new-players-away/83264/200 "2018-06-16T17:57:06Z")
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