# War Dec Abuse, Driving Small Alliances and New Players Away

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-dec-abuse-driving-small-alliances-and-new-players-away/83264>\
**Category:** Crime & Punishment\
**Created:** [June 15, 2018, 11:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-dec-abuse-driving-small-alliances-and-new-players-away/83264 "2018-06-15T23:05:17Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![The\_Dunning\_Kruger](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/the_dunning_kruger/32/414724_2.png) [@The\_Dunning\_Kruger](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/The_Dunning_Kruger)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 8:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-dec-abuse-driving-small-alliances-and-new-players-away/83264/241 "2018-06-16T20:39:01Z")

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> [@Andresoni\_Janau](#):
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> He’s choking again, and out vomits more nonsense with no point.

![17-12-21_12-05-47](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/b/7/b7740746c0fe5cea2808618fbaeade3a7812ec6d.png)

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**Author:** ![Andresoni\_Janau](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/andresoni_janau/32/240452_2.png) [@Andresoni\_Janau](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Andresoni_Janau)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 8:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-dec-abuse-driving-small-alliances-and-new-players-away/83264/242 "2018-06-16T20:40:16Z")

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I genuinely pity your lack of intellect.

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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 8:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-dec-abuse-driving-small-alliances-and-new-players-away/83264/243 "2018-06-16T20:40:47Z")

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The wardec fee could be considered to be the equivalent of a letter of marque; historically pirates operating under a letter of marque are not pirates but privateers or corsairs.

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**Author:** ![The\_Dunning\_Kruger](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/the_dunning_kruger/32/414724_2.png) [@The\_Dunning\_Kruger](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/The_Dunning_Kruger)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 8:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-dec-abuse-driving-small-alliances-and-new-players-away/83264/244 "2018-06-16T20:41:29Z")

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> [@Andresoni\_Janau](#):
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> I genuinely pity your lack of intellect.

> **[Dunning–Kruger effect](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning-Kruger_effect)**
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> The Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias in which people with limited competence in a particular domain overestimate their abilities. Some researchers also include the opposite effect for high performers: their tendency to underestimate their skills. In popular culture, the Dunning–Kruger effect is often misunderstood as a claim about general overconfidence of people with low intelligence instead of specific overconfidence of people unskilled at a particular task.
> The Dunning–Kruger eff...

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**Author:** ![mimi45](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mimi45/32/77591_2.png) [@mimi45](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/mimi45)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 8:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-dec-abuse-driving-small-alliances-and-new-players-away/83264/245 "2018-06-16T20:44:13Z")

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> [@The\_Dunning\_Kruger](#):
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> EVE is a **full-time PvP** sandbox, not Hello Kitty Online.

what is Eve will decide ccp owners : **Novator Partners and General Catalyst** , not ccp , not you not me !!!

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**Author:** ![Andresoni\_Janau](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/andresoni_janau/32/240452_2.png) [@Andresoni\_Janau](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Andresoni_Janau)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 8:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-dec-abuse-driving-small-alliances-and-new-players-away/83264/246 "2018-06-16T20:44:15Z")

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Only to the government that issued the letter. English privateers were not welcome in Spain, governments who did not participate in privateering would openly hang such individuals as… yep, pirates. Someone who abuses the war dec system should face the similar consequences, not knowing which authority figures will tolerate them, and which will fire on them.

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**Author:** ![Andresoni\_Janau](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/andresoni_janau/32/240452_2.png) [@Andresoni\_Janau](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Andresoni_Janau)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 8:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-dec-abuse-driving-small-alliances-and-new-players-away/83264/247 "2018-06-16T20:44:55Z")

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All you do is insist you’re right and vomit out nonsensical insults, and then claim intellectual superiority… are you 12? “yoloswag ur a fucktard I win” great point.

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**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 8:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-dec-abuse-driving-small-alliances-and-new-players-away/83264/248 "2018-06-16T20:46:27Z")

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> [@mimi45](#):
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> what is Eve will decide ccp owners : **Novator Partners and General Catalyst** , not ccp , not you not me !!!

Then why do you come to the forums and cry for changes? Please take your own advice

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**Author:** ![The\_Dunning\_Kruger](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/the_dunning_kruger/32/414724_2.png) [@The\_Dunning\_Kruger](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/The_Dunning_Kruger)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 8:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-dec-abuse-driving-small-alliances-and-new-players-away/83264/249 "2018-06-16T20:46:33Z")

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> [@Andresoni\_Janau](#):
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> All you do is insist you’re right and vomit out nonsensical insults, and then claim intellectual superiority… are you 12?

That’s actually what you do. I’m just telling you what is actually the case, just like everyone else. You’re just too stupid to get it, instead insulting everyone else and then crying a river when you’re insulted back.  
Classic entitled millennial behavior.

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**Author:** ![Andresoni\_Janau](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/andresoni_janau/32/240452_2.png) [@Andresoni\_Janau](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Andresoni_Janau)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 8:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-dec-abuse-driving-small-alliances-and-new-players-away/83264/250 "2018-06-16T20:47:28Z")

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“I know you are but what am I?” Seriously? You can’t see how pathetically childish and transparent everything you’ve posted has been?

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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 8:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-dec-abuse-driving-small-alliances-and-new-players-away/83264/251 "2018-06-16T20:48:14Z")

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In this particular instance the letter of marque is issued by the ultimate authority in hisec, that being Concord.

So yeah… you’re wrong. Merc corps are not pirates but licensed practitioners of murder and mayhem.

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**Author:** ![Andresoni\_Janau](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/andresoni_janau/32/240452_2.png) [@Andresoni\_Janau](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Andresoni_Janau)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 8:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-dec-abuse-driving-small-alliances-and-new-players-away/83264/252 "2018-06-16T20:50:08Z")

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Except since Concord isn’t a government, but rather an inter-faction police force, they should not be open to pirate manipulation, as the system sits, it’s easily manipulated in this way. Each empire faction could sell you a privateer license, that’d make sense, concord selling it would just be blatant corruption.

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**Author:** ![mimi45](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mimi45/32/77591_2.png) [@mimi45](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/mimi45)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 8:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-dec-abuse-driving-small-alliances-and-new-players-away/83264/253 "2018-06-16T20:50:34Z")

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You are craying that Eve is perfect and have growth in numbers, so sad it is not a true.

I am just presenting a cold fact that Eve ‘as is’ is unsustainable.

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**Author:** ![Andresoni\_Janau](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/andresoni_janau/32/240452_2.png) [@Andresoni\_Janau](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Andresoni_Janau)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 8:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-dec-abuse-driving-small-alliances-and-new-players-away/83264/254 "2018-06-16T20:52:01Z")

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There are people who want things they like to grow, others are content to watch the thing they like sit unused until it’s an empty shell.

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**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 9:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-dec-abuse-driving-small-alliances-and-new-players-away/83264/255 "2018-06-16T21:08:41Z")

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this thread delivers

- Nitshe is doing his usual dance
- Op and his alts are being whiny little non-adaptative shites

Adapt or die fam  
game won’t change over your glorious salt

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**Author:** ![Andresoni\_Janau](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/andresoni_janau/32/240452_2.png) [@Andresoni\_Janau](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Andresoni_Janau)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 9:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-dec-abuse-driving-small-alliances-and-new-players-away/83264/256 "2018-06-16T21:10:59Z")

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I have alts? Do tell hun. Sad behavior like that is reserved for people like you who are trying to defend the abhorrent.

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**Author:** ![Mortlake](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mortlake/32/510240_2.png) [@Mortlake](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mortlake)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 9:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-dec-abuse-driving-small-alliances-and-new-players-away/83264/257 "2018-06-16T21:15:31Z")

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> [@The\_Dunning\_Kruger](#):
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> That’s actually what you do. I’m just telling you what is actually the case, just like everyone else. You’re just too stupid to get it, instead insulting everyone else and then crying a river when you’re insulted back.  
> Classic entitled millennial behavior.

Which is extra amusing because by my reckoning he’s now become the prime insulter, after wading in and calling anyone who disagrees with him arrogant and entitled, when in fact he’s promoting himself as most entitled of them all.

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**Author:** ![Mortlake](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mortlake/32/510240_2.png) [@Mortlake](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mortlake)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 9:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-dec-abuse-driving-small-alliances-and-new-players-away/83264/258 "2018-06-16T21:16:39Z")

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> [@Andresoni\_Janau](#):
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> defend the abhorrent

Oh dear lord…

Are we in RP territory now? I only ask because I haven’t ironed my codpiece.

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**Author:** ![mimi45](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mimi45/32/77591_2.png) [@mimi45](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/mimi45)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 9:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-dec-abuse-driving-small-alliances-and-new-players-away/83264/259 "2018-06-16T21:16:59Z")

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> [@Dom\_Arkaral](#):
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> Adapt or die fam

Nice said, but Eve and ccp have to adapt, this is not world from 15 years ago, world has change and Eve and ccp would have to change.

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**Author:** ![Andresoni\_Janau](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/andresoni_janau/32/240452_2.png) [@Andresoni\_Janau](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Andresoni_Janau)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 9:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-dec-abuse-driving-small-alliances-and-new-players-away/83264/260 "2018-06-16T21:17:43Z")

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You toxic types do love high fives from each other, utterly simian. I really do pity you.

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