# War Dec Abuse, Driving Small Alliances and New Players Away **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [June 15, 2018, 11:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-dec-abuse-driving-small-alliances-and-new-players-away/83264 "2018-06-15T23:05:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 14
**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 9:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-dec-abuse-driving-small-alliances-and-new-players-away/83264/261 "2018-06-16T21:18:19Z")
EVE is turning to ■■■■ because of snowflakes like you wanting all the safety in the world seriously, adapt or go play Hello Kitty Online or Runescape like the pleb you are ---
**Author:** ![Andresoni\_Janau](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/andresoni_janau/32/240452_2.png) [@Andresoni\_Janau](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Andresoni_Janau)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 9:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-dec-abuse-driving-small-alliances-and-new-players-away/83264/262 "2018-06-16T21:19:08Z")
lmfao eve is dying because toxic types like you can’t comprehend anything but being predatory assholes XD ---
**Author:** ![Mortlake](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mortlake/32/510240_2.png) [@Mortlake](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mortlake)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 9:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-dec-abuse-driving-small-alliances-and-new-players-away/83264/263 "2018-06-16T21:19:22Z")
> [@Andresoni\_Janau](#): > > You toxic types do love high fives from each other, utterly simian. I really do pity you. Keep the insults coming. ![the-salt-must-flow](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/5/b/5bc469af5bd98fee41e71236ed96dbb129ba01b0.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![mimi45](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mimi45/32/77591_2.png) [@mimi45](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/mimi45)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 9:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-dec-abuse-driving-small-alliances-and-new-players-away/83264/264 "2018-06-16T21:19:33Z")
I’ll play Dual Universe, what you will play when Eve die ? ---
**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 9:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-dec-abuse-driving-small-alliances-and-new-players-away/83264/265 "2018-06-16T21:19:37Z")
Humans are predators by nature, sorry if you decided to be prey XD > [@mimi45](#): > > what you will play when Eve die EVE will outlast you 😃 In the event it does die, I’ll simply go play EVE 2 😂 ---
**Author:** ![Andresoni\_Janau](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/andresoni_janau/32/240452_2.png) [@Andresoni\_Janau](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Andresoni_Janau)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 9:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-dec-abuse-driving-small-alliances-and-new-players-away/83264/266 "2018-06-16T21:21:17Z")
Genuine pity. I feel bad for you, the utter despair you must live with in order to feel the need to behave this way online, and then call it morally / intellectually superior XD Whether you’re sick, or sad, or whatever, I hope you get better, so you can let go of being this hateful thing that you have become. Poor guy ☹ ---
**Author:** ![The\_Dunning\_Kruger](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/the_dunning_kruger/32/414724_2.png) [@The\_Dunning\_Kruger](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/The_Dunning_Kruger)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 9:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-dec-abuse-driving-small-alliances-and-new-players-away/83264/267 "2018-06-16T21:21:59Z")
I’m genuinely not sure anymore if you’re just trolling, or really that stupid. ---
**Author:** ![mimi45](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mimi45/32/77591_2.png) [@mimi45](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/mimi45)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 9:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-dec-abuse-driving-small-alliances-and-new-players-away/83264/268 "2018-06-16T21:23:08Z")
> [@Dom\_Arkaral](#): > > In the event it does die, I’ll simply go play EVE 2 Only if Novator Partners and General Catalyst put new loads of money in ccp, if not you would not 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Andresoni\_Janau](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/andresoni_janau/32/240452_2.png) [@Andresoni\_Janau](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Andresoni_Janau)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 9:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-dec-abuse-driving-small-alliances-and-new-players-away/83264/269 "2018-06-16T21:23:21Z")
Nothing you say matters, you’re just a contrarian troll running around throwing random insults, you haven’t made a single point, ever, yet sit there calling others stupid. It’s amazing how ignorant you are. ---
**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 9:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-dec-abuse-driving-small-alliances-and-new-players-away/83264/270 "2018-06-16T21:24:16Z")
you seem to be forgetting that the playerbase is what keeps the game going lol anywho, have fun with all the future wars 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Mortlake](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mortlake/32/510240_2.png) [@Mortlake](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mortlake)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 9:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-dec-abuse-driving-small-alliances-and-new-players-away/83264/271 "2018-06-16T21:24:17Z")
> [@Andresoni\_Janau](#): > > Genuine pity. I feel bad for you, the utter despair you must live with in order to feel the need to behave this way online, and then call it morally / intellectually superior I’m a nice guy. ---
**Author:** ![Andresoni\_Janau](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/andresoni_janau/32/240452_2.png) [@Andresoni\_Janau](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Andresoni_Janau)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 9:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-dec-abuse-driving-small-alliances-and-new-players-away/83264/272 "2018-06-16T21:24:19Z")
Wait sweety where are my alts like you’re currently using to agree with yourself? ---
**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 9:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-dec-abuse-driving-small-alliances-and-new-players-away/83264/273 "2018-06-16T21:25:09Z")
I don’t use alts on forums, only ingame to > Prey on the weak oof ---
**Author:** ![Andresoni\_Janau](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/andresoni_janau/32/240452_2.png) [@Andresoni\_Janau](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Andresoni_Janau)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 9:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-dec-abuse-driving-small-alliances-and-new-players-away/83264/274 "2018-06-16T21:25:45Z")
This thread is turning into the CSM Election, a few trolls with hundreds of alts dancing around pretending to be people. ---
**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 9:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-dec-abuse-driving-small-alliances-and-new-players-away/83264/275 "2018-06-16T21:27:52Z")
if only you knew who people think I also am, I can’t even remember them all XD This thread is nothing more than a poor attempt at getting more nerfs to the pvp on which EVE is based ---
**Author:** ![The\_Dunning\_Kruger](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/the_dunning_kruger/32/414724_2.png) [@The\_Dunning\_Kruger](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/The_Dunning_Kruger)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 9:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-dec-abuse-driving-small-alliances-and-new-players-away/83264/276 "2018-06-16T21:29:17Z")
> [@Andresoni\_Janau](#): > > you haven’t made a single point, ever And here I thought I made it so easy that even an incapable illiterate idiot like yourself can comprehend my point. Guess not. ---
**Author:** ![Andresoni\_Janau](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/andresoni_janau/32/240452_2.png) [@Andresoni\_Janau](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Andresoni_Janau)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 9:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-dec-abuse-driving-small-alliances-and-new-players-away/83264/277 "2018-06-16T21:29:26Z")
Or it’s a basic discussion of the current inability of the system to differentiate between war and piracy that pvp players can’t mentally handle because they think the game is entirely about them. ---
**Author:** ![Mortlake](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mortlake/32/510240_2.png) [@Mortlake](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mortlake)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 9:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-dec-abuse-driving-small-alliances-and-new-players-away/83264/278 "2018-06-16T21:30:19Z")
Serious response. Can’t be bothered to write any more. I’ll quote myself from another thread where I’ve responded to one of your ilk. > [@HiSec Wardecs will kill this game!](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hisec-wardecs-will-kill-this-game/36299/18): > > If you think dropping corp for a week, moving away from a pipe for a week, putting a scout on a gate for a week, actually paying attention for a week or any other number of free and viable options is too much trouble, then goodbye I guess. I’m done. You’re either monumentally thick, too angry to see sense or both. Frankly I’m past caring as you’ll probably be gone in a month. If you’re not, well done. If you are, say hi to Dear Daniel for me. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Dunning\_Kruger](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/the_dunning_kruger/32/414724_2.png) [@The\_Dunning\_Kruger](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/The_Dunning_Kruger)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 9:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-dec-abuse-driving-small-alliances-and-new-players-away/83264/279 "2018-06-16T21:30:58Z")
> [@Andresoni\_Janau](#): > > because they think the game is entirely about them > **[EVE-Online-New-Pilot-FAQ.pdf](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/communityassets/pdf/EVE-Online-New-Pilot-FAQ.pdf)** > 7 PVP (PLAYER VERSUS PLAYER) > > The essential core concept of EVE Online is that it is full time PvP in a sandbox > environment. As has been mentioned in previous sections any player can > engage another player at any time in any place. In high-sec space there > may be consequences if a pilot attacks another without just cause, but they > can still make that attack if they wish. In low-sec and null-sec, there are no > limitations to PvP at all. Some of the wide variety of PvP styles are described > in more detail below. > **[High Sec Hauling/Mining Kills - TY CCP for No Protection - EVE General...](https://forums-archive.eveonline.com/message/4972885)** > > EVE allows you to discover, explore and dominate an amazing science fiction universe while you fight, trade, form corporations and alliances with other players. > [@CCP hands over FREE Faction Citadels to Powerbloc Leadership after Outpost Conversion](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hands-over-free-faction-citadels-to-powerbloc-leadership-after-outpost-conversion/72456/112): > > This thread brings up an interesting point, but a point that’s made moot by a few things: The Sandbox nature of EVE’s design. The ability for player action and reaction to have both a positive and negative effect on gameplay. The prevalence of emergent gameplay experiences in EVE that causes these effects. The need for CCP to allow these experiences to persist, to preserve the sandbox nature of New Eden. My opinion on this goes back to the days before I came to CCP, when I was actually fighti… ---
**Author:** ![Andresoni\_Janau](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/andresoni_janau/32/240452_2.png) [@Andresoni\_Janau](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Andresoni_Janau)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 9:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-dec-abuse-driving-small-alliances-and-new-players-away/83264/280 "2018-06-16T21:33:32Z")
More manipulation of the system is not the answer. They abuse the war dec system, so we abuse the system and drop corp, and around the circle goes. Or, the system could grow, evolve, and learn to differentiate between piracy and war. I don’t know why you pvp types get so angry so quickly, you jump right to core insults and hate the moment someone questions anything about the way the system sits. Piracy and War are two different things, and the game should be able to differentiate between the two. Sorry if you’re too thick, angry, or whatever to admit to this basic logical fact. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-dec-abuse-driving-small-alliances-and-new-players-away/83264.md?page=13) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-dec-abuse-driving-small-alliances-and-new-players-away/83264.md?page=15)