# War Dec Abuse, Driving Small Alliances and New Players Away **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [June 15, 2018, 11:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-dec-abuse-driving-small-alliances-and-new-players-away/83264 "2018-06-15T23:05:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 17
**Author:** ![Andresoni\_Janau](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/andresoni_janau/32/240452_2.png) [@Andresoni\_Janau](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Andresoni_Janau)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 10:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-dec-abuse-driving-small-alliances-and-new-players-away/83264/322 "2018-06-16T22:31:17Z")
So you claim to be an official spokesman for CCP and concord, telling a customer to shove it up their ass? Or you’re just a troll with a severe mental deficiency and an in game tshirt. Occam’s razor, therefore the latter is true. You’re a troll who doesn’t like what someone said, so you’ll say anything to contradict it and insult them. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 10:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-dec-abuse-driving-small-alliances-and-new-players-away/83264/323 "2018-06-16T22:40:50Z")
![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/e/7/e713a55924f929a398eca9abaf461d22a7eef2e5.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Andresoni\_Janau](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/andresoni_janau/32/240452_2.png) [@Andresoni\_Janau](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Andresoni_Janau)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 10:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-dec-abuse-driving-small-alliances-and-new-players-away/83264/325 "2018-06-16T22:59:43Z")
They literally tell me to beg forgiveness and ask for advice, and then call me arrogant and entitled… lmfao. You’re like young males wondering why girls won’t talk to them. ---
**Author:** ![Nisanthro](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nisanthro/32/169173_2.png) [@Nisanthro](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nisanthro)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 11:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-dec-abuse-driving-small-alliances-and-new-players-away/83264/326 "2018-06-16T23:36:45Z")
> [@Andresoni\_Janau](#): > > There is a clear difference between piracy and war, unfortunately the current system allows for piracy under the guise of war, the system needs to be able to differentiate between wars and open piracy, this is just basic logic. That is a base logic of someone coming into EVE not knowing what it is and not liking it after finding out. How much did you pay for this game? I’d like to know where the entitlement comes from. Thanks. > [@Andresoni\_Janau](#): > > What you’re saying is, you don’t want more people to play the game I don’t want more people like you playing the game as well, that is what you don’t seem to comprehend. > [@Andresoni\_Janau](#): > > if the game were all about pvp no other activities would exist You permanently lose stuff in this game. PvE activities are there for you to replace the loses. > [@Andresoni\_Janau](#): > > war dec system allows for wide scale indiscriminate hostility that is more akin to piracy than war. It’s the ■■■■■■■ game mechanic, it is how the game works. You not liking it won’t change anything. “War that is piracy” is is ok in this game. It doesn’t matter if you call it “war”, “piracy” or anything else - shooting stuff is the game! > [@Andresoni\_Janau](#): > > You have so many accounts that your intelligence has fragmented You just proved yourself insane / really dumb. o/ ---
**Author:** ![Andresoni\_Janau](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/andresoni_janau/32/240452_2.png) [@Andresoni\_Janau](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Andresoni_Janau)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 11:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-dec-abuse-driving-small-alliances-and-new-players-away/83264/327 "2018-06-16T23:50:32Z")
I pity your lack of intellect. You’re incapable of basic discussion, all you know is being a child. ---
**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 11:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-dec-abuse-driving-small-alliances-and-new-players-away/83264/328 "2018-06-16T23:52:55Z")
name calling, the ultimate tool of the defeated 😃 I like it ---
**Author:** ![Andresoni\_Janau](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/andresoni_janau/32/240452_2.png) [@Andresoni\_Janau](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Andresoni_Janau)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 11:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-dec-abuse-driving-small-alliances-and-new-players-away/83264/329 "2018-06-16T23:53:56Z")
Yes because these kids didn’t start insulting me from reply 1, great logic. And you people wonder why Eve can’t break its current pop cap, it’s because you’re disgusting, and drive people away. ---
**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 11:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-dec-abuse-driving-small-alliances-and-new-players-away/83264/330 "2018-06-16T23:54:53Z")
Looks like you are still here ---
**Author:** ![Andresoni\_Janau](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/andresoni_janau/32/240452_2.png) [@Andresoni\_Janau](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Andresoni_Janau)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 11:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-dec-abuse-driving-small-alliances-and-new-players-away/83264/331 "2018-06-16T23:56:14Z")
Every bunch of sinners and scum needs a priest to murder and eat. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2018, 12:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-dec-abuse-driving-small-alliances-and-new-players-away/83264/332 "2018-06-17T00:01:00Z")
We know why Eve has a limited playerbase, it’s nothing to do with us and everything to do with the entire concept of the game, which is that of a full loot, entirely PvP orientated, no holds barred, single universe, competitive MMORPG. The game is designed to appeal to a certain demographic, you seem to be outside of it. Accept that Eve is not for you and move on. ---
**Author:** ![Starrakatt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/starrakatt/32/384322_2.png) [@Starrakatt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Starrakatt)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2018, 12:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-dec-abuse-driving-small-alliances-and-new-players-away/83264/333 "2018-06-17T00:03:24Z")
> [@Andresoni\_Janau](#): > > concord selling it would just be blatant corruption. Exactly. CONCORD is corrupt. What you gonna do about it? ---
**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2018, 12:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-dec-abuse-driving-small-alliances-and-new-players-away/83264/334 "2018-06-17T00:06:19Z")
I’m sure your corp will be super happy that you told everyone that they are bunch of spineless carebears who will not fight back. ---
**Author:** ![Andresoni\_Janau](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/andresoni_janau/32/240452_2.png) [@Andresoni\_Janau](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Andresoni_Janau)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2018, 12:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-dec-abuse-driving-small-alliances-and-new-players-away/83264/335 "2018-06-17T00:07:50Z")
Again. Sandbox, contains other activities besides combat, therefore, 4 aspects. World players and PvP players have to achieve a balance, or else the system is unsustainable. Act on world, Act on players, Act on world to affect players, act on players to affect world, this is basic MMO math, no matter how delusional you are, the mmo can’t sustain itself on 1 corner of the square. ---
**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2018, 12:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-dec-abuse-driving-small-alliances-and-new-players-away/83264/336 "2018-06-17T00:08:54Z")
how do you explain EVE outliving so many other MMOs? 😃 oh wait… ---
**Author:** ![Nisanthro](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nisanthro/32/169173_2.png) [@Nisanthro](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nisanthro)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2018, 12:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-dec-abuse-driving-small-alliances-and-new-players-away/83264/337 "2018-06-17T00:10:01Z")
How much did you pay for this game? I’d like to know where the entitlement comes from. Thanks. o/ ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2018, 12:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-dec-abuse-driving-small-alliances-and-new-players-away/83264/338 "2018-06-17T00:10:09Z")
> [@Andresoni\_Janau](#): > > contains other activities besides combat Name one that doesn’t put you in competition with another player, either directly or indirectly. PvP in Eve is far more than just shooting you in the face. ---
**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2018, 12:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-dec-abuse-driving-small-alliances-and-new-players-away/83264/340 "2018-06-17T00:12:12Z")
EVE works like this for 15 years. It is one of the oldest still running MMO. And you try to tell us that it will never work that way? 🤣 Man, I thought I have seen everything here, but this is just priceless comedy ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2018, 12:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-dec-abuse-driving-small-alliances-and-new-players-away/83264/343 "2018-06-17T00:18:34Z")
Nah Hisec is a game reserve, Concord are the gamekeepers; they issue licences to hunters in order to cull the sickly and the weak. Wardec corps are hunters, they purchase licences from Concord to hunt the prey of their choice; gankers on the other hand do not, therefore they are poachers and Concord kicks their arses for not purchasing a licence. ---
**Author:** ![Andresoni\_Janau](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/andresoni_janau/32/240452_2.png) [@Andresoni\_Janau](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Andresoni_Janau)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2018, 12:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-dec-abuse-driving-small-alliances-and-new-players-away/83264/344 "2018-06-17T00:20:48Z")
Yep multiple times CCP has had to take steps from keeping the population from dwindling to critical levels. How many times does the game need to avoid death before embracing life? ---
**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2018, 12:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-dec-abuse-driving-small-alliances-and-new-players-away/83264/345 "2018-06-17T00:21:02Z")
> [@Andresoni\_Janau](#): > > Yeah, figured this sad excuse for a troll couldn’t do it, anyone else? Uh, me? I demonstrated how it wasnt a logical fallacy. Wheres your response? [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-dec-abuse-driving-small-alliances-and-new-players-away/83264.md?page=16) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-dec-abuse-driving-small-alliances-and-new-players-away/83264.md?page=18)