# War Dec Abuse, Driving Small Alliances and New Players Away **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [June 15, 2018, 11:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-dec-abuse-driving-small-alliances-and-new-players-away/83264 "2018-06-15T23:05:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Noragen\_Neirfallas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/noragen_neirfallas/32/375148_2.png) [@Noragen\_Neirfallas](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Noragen_Neirfallas)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 10:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-dec-abuse-driving-small-alliances-and-new-players-away/83264/141 "2018-06-16T10:34:34Z")
If my group of 20 were to declare war on the op and focus our efforts on them that should be in with you right op? ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 10:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-dec-abuse-driving-small-alliances-and-new-players-away/83264/142 "2018-06-16T10:41:29Z")
Rabble, proof that with decent leadership industrialists and newbies can beat PIRAT. ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/2/e/2e9b4eb62fa2d7f8cb68fa6d8e0f57d369bda092.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Black\_Pedro](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/black_pedro/32/257285_2.png) [@Black\_Pedro](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Black_Pedro)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 11:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-dec-abuse-driving-small-alliances-and-new-players-away/83264/143 "2018-06-16T11:07:54Z")
> [@James\_Zimmer](#): > > My first corp ran into a targeted wardec. From what I remember, about half of the people in the corp left the game for good. Whether or not you have distain for carebears who live in highsec, from a purely financial standpoint, I think CCP should look at the mechanics. Why? The wardeccers are paying customers too. Some of them new and looking for something to do. I don’t have disdain for industrial-minded characters or new players. I do have disdain for carebears who ask for the core of the game to be changed because we need to “think of the new players!” but really they just want to be able to “win” at the game by begging CCP to remove their competition by developer fiat. That said, I do think a social corp should be implemented so that players like the OP who are clearly not ready to compete can have a shared social space and name to wallow in until they get bored and quit the corp (or Eve entirely), or hopefully use to get better and more organized finally stepping up as a group to play the real game. ---
**Author:** ![z0rberg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/z0rberg/32/29223_2.png) [@z0rberg](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/z0rberg)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 11:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-dec-abuse-driving-small-alliances-and-new-players-away/83264/144 "2018-06-16T11:08:27Z")
Everyone here is now being reminded that there are innocent new players in his corp, who will be better off to being told to join a different one, or even you, but at least leaving him. Do not mess with those who are in no way at fault, otherwise you would be no better than him. ---
**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 11:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-dec-abuse-driving-small-alliances-and-new-players-away/83264/145 "2018-06-16T11:17:43Z")
> [@mimi45](#): > > > [@Ima\_Wreckyou](#): > > > > It’s just that the numbers say that losing ships to another player is the main factor that people keep playing. So don’t get your hopes up. > > Dream on baby … 😘 > > For this kind of discussion first you have to learn some math try something like this: > > [https://www.amazon.com/Multidimensional-Real-Analysis-Differentiation-Mathematics/dp/0521551145](https://www.amazon.com/Multidimensional-Real-Analysis-Differentiation-Mathematics/dp/0521551145) Why? You have provided no data where I could use that math on. All you did is share your uninformed opinion about your gut feelings. @The_Dunning_Kruger this is clearly an alt of @Tecros_Shtemerk ---
**Author:** ![mimi45](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mimi45/32/77591_2.png) [@mimi45](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/mimi45)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 11:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-dec-abuse-driving-small-alliances-and-new-players-away/83264/146 "2018-06-16T11:32:13Z")
Nope, all my alts are in LSG guild. ---
**Author:** ![mimi45](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mimi45/32/77591_2.png) [@mimi45](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/mimi45)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 11:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-dec-abuse-driving-small-alliances-and-new-players-away/83264/147 "2018-06-16T11:35:01Z")
We will see, time is ultimate judge. 🕶 ---
**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 11:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-dec-abuse-driving-small-alliances-and-new-players-away/83264/148 "2018-06-16T11:38:03Z")
Sure lets wait another 15 years. ---
**Author:** ![NotTheSmartestCookie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/notthesmartestcookie/32/168266_2.png) [@NotTheSmartestCookie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/NotTheSmartestCookie)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 11:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-dec-abuse-driving-small-alliances-and-new-players-away/83264/149 "2018-06-16T11:44:09Z")
By that time Star Citizen will no doubt support up to 8 players in the same mining belt and have mining frigates available for only $50 (in 2018 dollar value) so EVE could suffer from a real exodus of players. ---
**Author:** ![mimi45](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mimi45/32/77591_2.png) [@mimi45](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/mimi45)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 11:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-dec-abuse-driving-small-alliances-and-new-players-away/83264/150 "2018-06-16T11:47:36Z")
You are so obssesed with SC that you didn’t saw space games with procedural generated universe which are direct competition to Eve. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![NotTheSmartestCookie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/notthesmartestcookie/32/168266_2.png) [@NotTheSmartestCookie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/NotTheSmartestCookie)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 11:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-dec-abuse-driving-small-alliances-and-new-players-away/83264/151 "2018-06-16T11:52:47Z")
Let me guess, you went to the Cathy Newman school of deduction and logic reasoning? ---
**Author:** ![Noragen\_Neirfallas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/noragen_neirfallas/32/375148_2.png) [@Noragen\_Neirfallas](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Noragen_Neirfallas)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 11:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-dec-abuse-driving-small-alliances-and-new-players-away/83264/152 "2018-06-16T11:55:55Z")
Actually in this sub I am the Judge. Time can bugger off ---
**Author:** ![mimi45](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mimi45/32/77591_2.png) [@mimi45](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/mimi45)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 11:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-dec-abuse-driving-small-alliances-and-new-players-away/83264/153 "2018-06-16T11:57:14Z")
No I am standing straight with my shoulders back and defending my points against insults and lies. P. S. My rom is in order and is mine, I owe it not rent it from my mother. 😆 ---
**Author:** ![Starrakatt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/starrakatt/32/384322_2.png) [@Starrakatt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Starrakatt)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 12:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-dec-abuse-driving-small-alliances-and-new-players-away/83264/154 "2018-06-16T12:00:40Z")
> [@Andresoni\_Janau](#): > > Open hostilities against anyone too weak to stand against you is not war, it’s piracy, and the war system should not allow for open indescriminate piracy. So… Nations like England, France, Germany, Canada and the USA are pirates because attacked weaker ones, like the talibans, or bombarded Syria? What you say doesn’t make sense. By your definition, all nations of throughout history that were stronger that made war or conquered are/were conducting piracy. I call you a troll, and an entiled troll at that. ---
**Author:** ![z0rberg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/z0rberg/32/29223_2.png) [@z0rberg](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/z0rberg)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 12:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-dec-abuse-driving-small-alliances-and-new-players-away/83264/155 "2018-06-16T12:12:03Z")
OP’s bio. > Owner and CEO: > Free Galaxy Media > Free Galaxy Radio > Free Galaxy Mining > Free Galaxy Shipping > Free Galaxy Transit > Free Galaxy Escorts > Free Galaxy Salvage > Free Galaxy Security > Free Galaxy Chattel > Free Galaxy Ministries > Message me to inquire about investing in any of these financial ventures. Now THAT makes me wonder about what he’s actually doing with the new guys … ---
**Author:** ![Starrakatt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/starrakatt/32/384322_2.png) [@Starrakatt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Starrakatt)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 12:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-dec-abuse-driving-small-alliances-and-new-players-away/83264/156 "2018-06-16T12:24:15Z")
> [@z0rberg](#): > > OP’s bio. > > > Owner and CEO: > > Free Galaxy Media > > Free Galaxy Radio > > Free Galaxy Mining > > Free Galaxy Shipping > > Free Galaxy Transit > > Free Galaxy Escorts > > Free Galaxy Salvage > > Free Galaxy Security > > Free Galaxy Chattel > > Free Galaxy Ministries > > > Message me to inquire about investing in any of these financial ventures. > > Now THAT makes me wonder about what he’s actually doing with the new guys … Ohmy, this is indeed worrying. Having his ‘employees’ being mobbed and driven off their street corners must be a traumatizing experience… ---
**Author:** ![z0rberg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/z0rberg/32/29223_2.png) [@z0rberg](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/z0rberg)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 12:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-dec-abuse-driving-small-alliances-and-new-players-away/83264/157 "2018-06-16T12:29:41Z")
I only checked the first one for actual existence and found no such corporation. For now I can give him a pass - on this one - as someone who likes to role play and I’m perfectly fine with that. Especially with the kinky ■■■■. Amarrians have all kinds of shits in their closets. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Dunning\_Kruger](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/the_dunning_kruger/32/414724_2.png) [@The\_Dunning\_Kruger](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/The_Dunning_Kruger)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 12:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-dec-abuse-driving-small-alliances-and-new-players-away/83264/158 "2018-06-16T12:32:53Z")
Who the ■■■■ is @Tecros_Shtemerk? I also have no idea what “data” he could provide that you could use that math on. It’s obviously a case of “I’m just googling some math book and take the first result that looks like I’m smart, though I have absolutely not the faintest idea what it’s even about”. ---
**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 12:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-dec-abuse-driving-small-alliances-and-new-players-away/83264/159 "2018-06-16T12:36:52Z")
He is a troll who poped up lately in every other thread about ganking and cried for change. When provided with with the talks from CCP Quant he mumbled the same bs about math as he did here. Just an observation ---
**Author:** ![The\_Dunning\_Kruger](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/the_dunning_kruger/32/414724_2.png) [@The\_Dunning\_Kruger](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/The_Dunning_Kruger)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 12:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-dec-abuse-driving-small-alliances-and-new-players-away/83264/160 "2018-06-16T12:39:56Z")
> [@Ima\_Wreckyou](#): > > When provided with with the talks from CCP Quant he mumbled the same bs about math as he did here. Yeah, definitely a strong indicator it’s the same guy. There really aren’t many people _that stupid_ to link random math when they don’t understand anything about it. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-dec-abuse-driving-small-alliances-and-new-players-away/83264.md?page=7) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-dec-abuse-driving-small-alliances-and-new-players-away/83264.md?page=9)