# War deccing needs to change

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-deccing-needs-to-change/507088>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [February 21, 2026, 5:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-deccing-needs-to-change/507088 "2026-02-21T17:52:16Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Remi\_Lacroix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/remi_lacroix/32/494680_2.png) [@Remi\_Lacroix](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Remi_Lacroix)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2026, 2:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-deccing-needs-to-change/507088/86 "2026-03-28T02:15:11Z")

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is 600-800 million greater or lesser than 1.3-1.5b?

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**Author:** ![Namdor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/namdor/32/396179_2.png) [@Namdor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Namdor)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2026, 2:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-deccing-needs-to-change/507088/87 "2026-03-28T02:16:37Z")

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Did I say the price of an Orca was unchanged or…? Again, still waiting for the point.

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**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2026, 2:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-deccing-needs-to-change/507088/88 "2026-03-28T02:19:33Z")

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You told me it was nonsense that an Orca could cost half of what it does now.

600-800 is half.

So yes. You’re 100% right. It could never have cost 600 to 800 ISK.

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**Author:** ![Remi\_Lacroix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/remi_lacroix/32/494680_2.png) [@Remi\_Lacroix](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Remi_Lacroix)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2026, 2:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-deccing-needs-to-change/507088/89 "2026-03-28T02:19:56Z")

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> [@Namdor](#):
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> No, they weren’t, and among subcaps, most of the cases where a ship _did_ have an outsized price jump, it was simply due to tiericide normalization (ca. 2012-2013) and not whatever reason you’re imagining.

correct me if I’m wrong, but it would appear that prices did increase and not due to balancing ships?

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**Author:** ![Namdor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/namdor/32/396179_2.png) [@Namdor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Namdor)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2026, 2:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-deccing-needs-to-change/507088/90 "2026-03-28T02:21:34Z")

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> No, they weren’t, and among subcaps, _ **most of the cases** _ where a ship _did_ have an outsized price jump,

What do the highlighted words mean?

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**Author:** ![Namdor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/namdor/32/396179_2.png) [@Namdor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Namdor)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2026, 2:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-deccing-needs-to-change/507088/91 "2026-03-28T02:22:31Z")

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> [@Glenduil](#):
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> You told me it was nonsense that an Orca could cost half of what it does now.

Actually, I said it was nonsense that the hulk was 100m when they came out. That you’re misquoting me so deliberately just a few posts later is just an obvious exercise in dishonesty.

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**Author:** ![Remi\_Lacroix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/remi_lacroix/32/494680_2.png) [@Remi\_Lacroix](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Remi_Lacroix)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2026, 2:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-deccing-needs-to-change/507088/92 "2026-03-28T02:22:33Z")

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oh, I see!

Could you elucidate on which ships did not increase?

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**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2026, 2:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-deccing-needs-to-change/507088/93 "2026-03-28T02:22:44Z")

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So which is it? Did prices go up or did they remain the same? You’re the one who must tell us what to believe.

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**Author:** ![Remi\_Lacroix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/remi_lacroix/32/494680_2.png) [@Remi\_Lacroix](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Remi_Lacroix)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2026, 2:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-deccing-needs-to-change/507088/94 "2026-03-28T02:26:41Z")

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I have to be quite frank here, I do not play the market so my questions are genuine. I was appalled when I came back to play and saw the prices of ships had risen so much!

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**Author:** ![Malak\_Starfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/malak_starfire/32/501915_2.png) [@Malak\_Starfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Malak_Starfire)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2026, 2:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-deccing-needs-to-change/507088/95 "2026-03-28T02:26:54Z")

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Do Orcas only use high sec minerals? How does war decs change the price of an Orca?

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**Author:** ![Namdor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/namdor/32/396179_2.png) [@Namdor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Namdor)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2026, 2:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-deccing-needs-to-change/507088/96 "2026-03-28T02:27:07Z")

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> [@Glenduil](#):
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> So which is it? Did prices go up or did they remain the same? You’re the one who must tell us what to believe.

I’ve been very clear that prices are higher today, and that they are not higher to the degree that you claim.

> [@Remi\_Lacroix](#):
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> oh, I see!
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> Could you elucidate on which ships did not increase?

I already mentioned a few. Pre-tiericide “third tier” battleships are similar or cheaper today, hulks are about the same price as in 2011 but the skiff and mackinaw are more expensive (tiericide, again).

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**Author:** ![Remi\_Lacroix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/remi_lacroix/32/494680_2.png) [@Remi\_Lacroix](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Remi_Lacroix)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2026, 2:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-deccing-needs-to-change/507088/99 "2026-03-28T02:30:11Z")

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I do not know! I was just reading the current conversation between two individuals that appear to not like each other very much at the moment, and decided it would be a great time to ask some questions and maybe relax the conversation some!

I guess that’s not allowed, first flag in probably 4 years.

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**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2026, 2:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-deccing-needs-to-change/507088/100 "2026-03-28T02:30:22Z")

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> [@Namdor](#):
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> I’ve been very clear that prices are higher today, and that they are not higher to the degree that you claim.

So once again you claim here that Orcas could never have cost 600m ISK.

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**Author:** ![Remi\_Lacroix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/remi_lacroix/32/494680_2.png) [@Remi\_Lacroix](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Remi_Lacroix)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2026, 2:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-deccing-needs-to-change/507088/101 "2026-03-28T02:31:02Z")

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I thought it went from 1 to 2? was it 3 to 2? My memory is a little foggy due to my retirement from mining so long ago.

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**Author:** ![Namdor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/namdor/32/396179_2.png) [@Namdor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Namdor)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2026, 2:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-deccing-needs-to-change/507088/102 "2026-03-28T02:31:17Z")

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> [@Glenduil](#):
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> So once again you claim here that Orcas could never have cost 600m ISK.

No, once again I’m ignoring the generally dishonest tactic where you attempt to put words in my mouth and am simply redirecting back to what I actually said, instead.

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**Author:** ![Malak\_Starfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/malak_starfire/32/501915_2.png) [@Malak\_Starfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Malak_Starfire)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2026, 2:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-deccing-needs-to-change/507088/103 "2026-03-28T02:31:34Z")

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How does Orca prices support your argument for war deccing needing a change?

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**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2026, 2:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-deccing-needs-to-change/507088/104 "2026-03-28T02:32:20Z")

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But i specifically used Orcas in my example. You said I was completely wrong.

Your claim was that they could never cost 600m until someone else said it and you agreed. But not when i said it.

Your credibility is laughable.

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**Author:** ![Namdor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/namdor/32/396179_2.png) [@Namdor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Namdor)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2026, 2:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-deccing-needs-to-change/507088/105 "2026-03-28T02:34:26Z")

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You’re welcome to quote me saying anything about the price of an Orca in this thread.

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/d/b/0/db09eef7c541eef1da8638b234abe6e0498b48ef.png)

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**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2026, 2:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-deccing-needs-to-change/507088/106 "2026-03-28T02:35:25Z")

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Oh you didnt. You just said I was wrong when I said it. I never said that YOU said it.

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**Author:** ![Namdor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/namdor/32/396179_2.png) [@Namdor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Namdor)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2026, 2:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-deccing-needs-to-change/507088/107 "2026-03-28T02:36:31Z")

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I’m not sure if maybe you’re just unclear on how a quote-response works, but when someone quotes something and then furnishes a response, they’re generally responding to specifically what they quoted, and not whatever you imagine.

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