# War decs should cost 10m additional isk for each outgoing war **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [March 14, 2020, 1:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-decs-should-cost-10m-additional-isk-for-each-outgoing-war/225763 "2020-03-14T13:29:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 14
**Author:** ![Galaxy\_Pig](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/galaxy_pig/32/374625_2.png) [@Galaxy\_Pig](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Galaxy_Pig)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2020, 11:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-decs-should-cost-10m-additional-isk-for-each-outgoing-war/225763/264 "2020-03-14T23:05:27Z")
> [@Namtis](#): > > Change it so people must pay +10m isk per extra active war they are involved in. That’ll cut down on the number of war decs they issue against small player number and low value corps. Then what if it doesn’t? What if these groups just pay the fees and continue as they were before? Will you still whine? ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2020, 11:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-decs-should-cost-10m-additional-isk-for-each-outgoing-war/225763/265 "2020-03-14T23:06:45Z")
I hope they dont think Im being purposefully ignorant. I totally get the cause here, I just think its as little unessescary ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2020, 11:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-decs-should-cost-10m-additional-isk-for-each-outgoing-war/225763/266 "2020-03-14T23:06:46Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > You have a need for accuracy that native english speakers dont. That’s called rigor. When you give rule, you need to give an objective measure to apply that rule. Otherwise it’s arbitrary power. It’s not that I don’t like it. It’s just stupid. You make a rule, that means nothing, and can’t be evaluated. Just like that retarded “luxurious” thing. Give more stupid terms, let’s all create our own term that allow us to be right in any circumstance since we are the one drawing the lines at our will. That’s just BS. > [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > He is saying defend, as an action to attempt to avoid destructiuon. Yeah, that’s called polysemy fallacy. You can always use throwaway corvettes when your structure is under a tack. Yet they say"can’t defend" which means this definition is out of question. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2020, 11:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-decs-should-cost-10m-additional-isk-for-each-outgoing-war/225763/267 "2020-03-14T23:07:13Z")
> [@Galaxy\_Pig](#): > > Will you still whine? Of course they will. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2020, 11:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-decs-should-cost-10m-additional-isk-for-each-outgoing-war/225763/268 "2020-03-14T23:08:04Z")
See, I have no idea what a polysemy fallacy is, and Ive never needed to know until now. Suffice to say I understood him perfectly well, presumably because I dont talk like a crazy robot nerd. Seriously, lighten up. You might be clever, but youre really mean for no reason sometimes. ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2020, 11:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-decs-should-cost-10m-additional-isk-for-each-outgoing-war/225763/269 "2020-03-14T23:08:08Z")
> [@Galaxy\_Pig](#): > > Will you still whine? Never not whine until it’s 100% safe. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2020, 11:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-decs-should-cost-10m-additional-isk-for-each-outgoing-war/225763/271 "2020-03-14T23:13:41Z")
> [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > That’s called rigor. I’m using defend in a correct manner and context, and in a way that is understood by native English speakers; it’s not the only way to use it as evidenced by the way that you’re using it, which is also correct but somewhat at odds with the way I’m using it. Don’t judge native speakers by the standards of Academia, those standards are rarely adhered to in the common use of language. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2020, 11:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-decs-should-cost-10m-additional-isk-for-each-outgoing-war/225763/272 "2020-03-14T23:14:15Z")
> [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#): > > I’m using defend in a correct manner, and in a way that is understood by native English speakers; In a way that can’t be used in that context. ---
**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2020, 11:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-decs-should-cost-10m-additional-isk-for-each-outgoing-war/225763/273 "2020-03-14T23:14:36Z")
Anderson is just one of those people that think everyone who doesn’t carry the same opinion as him/her is “irrelevant” or “BS”. And that’s all you need to know about how Anderson operates. Any thread he or she participates in becomes a train wreck. He or she is one of those types of people that are best ignored. Too bad that feature isn’t built in to the forum… ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2020, 11:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-decs-should-cost-10m-additional-isk-for-each-outgoing-war/225763/274 "2020-03-14T23:14:54Z")
> [@QuakeGod](#): > > Anderson is just one of those people that think everyone who doesn’t carry the same opinion as him/her is “irrelevant” or “BS”. BS. You deserve it. ---
**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2020, 11:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-decs-should-cost-10m-additional-isk-for-each-outgoing-war/225763/275 "2020-03-14T23:15:09Z")
Like I said… ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2020, 11:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-decs-should-cost-10m-additional-isk-for-each-outgoing-war/225763/277 "2020-03-14T23:16:07Z")
> [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > In a way that can’t be used in that context. How so? ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2020, 11:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-decs-should-cost-10m-additional-isk-for-each-outgoing-war/225763/278 "2020-03-14T23:16:25Z")
> [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > It’s polysemy fallacy because he’s using another definition, that should not be usable in that case. Where are you choosing to pull your definition from? Defend is primarily used as a verb in english. > [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > The issue, is that people consider themselves judges of what other people are, on the sole basis of such stupid rules. Which you dont seem to realise is what you do when you use phrrases like BS and ■■■■ you to people. Im sorry Geten, you act like you want to educate people but call them stuff when they try. You just dont want to do anything but tell people how much smarter you are, which is tbh pretty fing selfish when you could be using your obvious immense talent for doing good and actually increasing knowledge,. not making people resistant to it because you use phrases like that. ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2020, 11:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-decs-should-cost-10m-additional-isk-for-each-outgoing-war/225763/279 "2020-03-14T23:16:32Z")
> [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > In a way that can’t be used in that context. The context was fine and perfectly understandable. English is a pretty screwed up language to be fair, where individual words have multiple contexts and subtle differences in meaning based on the context. Jonah’s use was perfectly fine in the context he used it, and the context was also fine for the argument he was making. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2020, 11:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-decs-should-cost-10m-additional-isk-for-each-outgoing-war/225763/280 "2020-03-14T23:16:44Z")
> [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#): > > How so? I wrote it above. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2020, 11:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-decs-should-cost-10m-additional-isk-for-each-outgoing-war/225763/281 "2020-03-14T23:17:12Z")
> [@Scipio\_Artelius](#): > > Jonah’s use was perfectly fine in the context he used it, and the context was also fine for the argument he was making. It was not, as I explained above. People can always “defend” structure with that definition, which implies that definition makes no sense in the saying “don’t anchor what you can’t defend”. Switching the definition used for one that is not usable in the context is a polysemy fallacy, that is a way to make it look like we are right, even when we are wrong - therefore, BS. ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2020, 11:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-decs-should-cost-10m-additional-isk-for-each-outgoing-war/225763/282 "2020-03-14T23:19:49Z")
> [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > It was not, as I explained above. From your perspective sure. Unfrotunately in this, your perspective is limited and totally understandable. We are heading into focusing on the poster rather than the post, but live by the sword and you die by the sword - which is context, has a meaning that is not literal and I hope it is understandable. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2020, 11:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-decs-should-cost-10m-additional-isk-for-each-outgoing-war/225763/283 "2020-03-14T23:20:44Z")
> [@Scipio\_Artelius](#): > > From your perspective sure. Unfrotunately in this, your perspective is limited and totally understandable. By any perspective, application of that definition to the saying is a nonsense. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2020, 11:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-decs-should-cost-10m-additional-isk-for-each-outgoing-war/225763/284 "2020-03-14T23:21:19Z")
> [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > It was not, as I explained above. I’m sorry but you’re wrong, at least 2 others in this thread are native speakers of English and my meaning was clearly understood by them. I don’t correct speakers of other languages on their use of words and context, despite speaking at least one other European language semi fluently and 2 others to the extent that I can be understood; because in all likelihood I’d be wrong in my correction. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2020, 11:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-decs-should-cost-10m-additional-isk-for-each-outgoing-war/225763/285 "2020-03-14T23:22:07Z")
> [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#): > > I’m sorry but you’re wrong, at least 2 others in this thread are native speakers of English and my meaning was clearly understood by them. That’s an appeal to popularity, another fallacy. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-decs-should-cost-10m-additional-isk-for-each-outgoing-war/225763.md?page=13) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-decs-should-cost-10m-additional-isk-for-each-outgoing-war/225763.md?page=15)