# War decs should cost 10m additional isk for each outgoing war **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [March 14, 2020, 1:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-decs-should-cost-10m-additional-isk-for-each-outgoing-war/225763 "2020-03-14T13:29:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 16
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2020, 11:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-decs-should-cost-10m-additional-isk-for-each-outgoing-war/225763/306 "2020-03-14T23:37:55Z")
> [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > appeal to popularity. Nope, you have multiple people in different countries where English is used everyday by the majority of the population telling you that the context I used is correct. As I’ve said before, your English is very very good; but you lack the familiarity with the language as used outside of Academia to pick up on nuance and to some extent context. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2020, 11:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-decs-should-cost-10m-additional-isk-for-each-outgoing-war/225763/307 "2020-03-14T23:38:02Z")
But you can confirm that defend is not a verb, yes? That is the basis of your objection. ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2020, 11:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-decs-should-cost-10m-additional-isk-for-each-outgoing-war/225763/308 "2020-03-14T23:38:24Z")
OP, I think your thread is going to be locked. Apology that we don’t understand the language we speak and how to use it correctly. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2020, 11:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-decs-should-cost-10m-additional-isk-for-each-outgoing-war/225763/309 "2020-03-14T23:39:03Z")
> [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#): > > Nope, you have multiple people in different countries where English is used everyday by the majority of the population telling you that the context I used is correct. Again, you don’t understand what an appeal to popularity is. You are dodging the point by saying that since more people agree with you, then you can dodge my point. Which you don’t. > [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > But you can confirm that defend is not a verb, yes? > > That is the basis of your objection. Dafuck ? ---
**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2020, 11:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-decs-should-cost-10m-additional-isk-for-each-outgoing-war/225763/310 "2020-03-14T23:39:14Z")
Any thread Anderson participates in has a high probability of being locked… ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2020, 11:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-decs-should-cost-10m-additional-isk-for-each-outgoing-war/225763/311 "2020-03-14T23:39:30Z")
I really cant wait to see R-O-B-O-C-O-P’s post, shes been at it ages. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2020, 11:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-decs-should-cost-10m-additional-isk-for-each-outgoing-war/225763/312 "2020-03-14T23:40:37Z")
> [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > you don’t understand what an appeal to popularity is Oh I do, I just think that you’re attempting to use fallacies to cover up your lack of real world experience with English, as used by people who’ve spoken it their entire lives. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2020, 11:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-decs-should-cost-10m-additional-isk-for-each-outgoing-war/225763/313 "2020-03-14T23:40:45Z")
verb /vəːb/ Grammar _noun_ noun: **verb** ; plural noun: **verbs** 1. a word used to describe an action, state, or occurrence, and forming the main part of the predicate of a sentence, such as _hear_ , _become_ , _happen_ . _verb_ verb: **verb** ; 3rd person present: **verbs** ; past tense: **verbed** ; past participle: **verbed** ; gerund or present participle: **verbing** 1. use (a word that is not conventionally used as a verb, typically a noun) as a verb. “any English noun can be verbed, but some are more resistant than others” Origin ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/c/4/c425d39f98b606568de171add0b80d400803de6f.png) late Middle English: from Old French _verbe_ or Latin _verbum_ ‘word, verb’. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2020, 11:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-decs-should-cost-10m-additional-isk-for-each-outgoing-war/225763/314 "2020-03-14T23:42:17Z")
> [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#): > > Oh I do You literally don’t. At no point you even try to address my point, instead going to “we think that”, which is the definition of “appeal to popularity”. You did not even once answer to my point, dodging it . So you are the one trying to cover his mistakes with fallacies. > [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > verb again : dafuck ? How is that any relevant ? ---
**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2020, 11:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-decs-should-cost-10m-additional-isk-for-each-outgoing-war/225763/315 "2020-03-14T23:43:10Z")
![Wrong](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/d/7/d7f453ed987387c2ae3d4eebca44ff9dad9d1db7.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2020, 11:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-decs-should-cost-10m-additional-isk-for-each-outgoing-war/225763/316 "2020-03-14T23:43:14Z")
> [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > How is that any relevant ? “How is any of that relevant?” would be correct You’ll need to speak more accurately, I cannot understand you otherwise. Sorry. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2020, 11:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-decs-should-cost-10m-additional-isk-for-each-outgoing-war/225763/317 "2020-03-14T23:43:53Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > You’ll need to speak more accurately, I cannot understand you otherwise. So, dafuck ? I guess you admit it’s just blabbering of no relevant. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2020, 11:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-decs-should-cost-10m-additional-isk-for-each-outgoing-war/225763/318 "2020-03-14T23:44:53Z")
> [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > So, dafuck ? Do you mean “What the ■■■■”? Well, the ■■■■, as you so eloquently put it, is that you have stated that Jonah cannot use Defend as a verb within a sentence. I ask you where the definition you are using for “Defend” comes from, what you think it means, and if it is not a verb, what is it? ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2020, 11:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-decs-should-cost-10m-additional-isk-for-each-outgoing-war/225763/319 "2020-03-14T23:46:01Z")
> [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > I guess you admit it’s just blabbering of no relevant. I don’t understand that. Do you mean “Its just irrelevant blabbering?” Please try to be accurate. ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2020, 11:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-decs-should-cost-10m-additional-isk-for-each-outgoing-war/225763/320 "2020-03-14T23:46:17Z")
> [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > At no point you even try to address my poin He has and he isn’t appealing to popularity. If the position was that “we all believe he is right, so therefore he is right” was the position, then that would be an appeal to popularity. However, the premise is that, because we understand him, that is evidence that your claim that it cannot be used in that context, is wrong. You are wrong, without appealing to popularity, just by limiting ourselves to the evidence above. ---
**Author:** ![Tintallei\_Sharan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tintallei_sharan/32/373000_2.png) [@Tintallei\_Sharan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tintallei_Sharan)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2020, 11:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-decs-should-cost-10m-additional-isk-for-each-outgoing-war/225763/321 "2020-03-14T23:46:20Z")
> [@Namtis](#): > > With such a large amount of members, there is surely no problem in them paying higher fees for declaring war? Then why do you make this suggestion in the first place? You know very well that this won’t stop them, and do nothing besides making them spend a bit more of their ISK. All in all you just want to annoy a group of players despite being very much aware that this won’t actually change anything noticeable for the game. ---
**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2020, 11:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-decs-should-cost-10m-additional-isk-for-each-outgoing-war/225763/322 "2020-03-14T23:47:19Z")
And now we are back on track with the topic at hand. However, it’s only going to take Anderson about 5 seconds to derail it again… ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2020, 11:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-decs-should-cost-10m-additional-isk-for-each-outgoing-war/225763/323 "2020-03-14T23:47:41Z")
I can feel it squamishly congealing in my gizzards. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2020, 11:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-decs-should-cost-10m-additional-isk-for-each-outgoing-war/225763/324 "2020-03-14T23:47:42Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > Do you mean “What the ■■■■”? No, I mean dafuck. Otherwise I would have used that term, it’s not a mistake. > **[Dafuq | Know Your Meme](https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/dafuq)** > > Dafuq is a slang interjection typically used in reaction to that which makes no sense or provokes severe confusion. It is short for the colloquial phrase " > [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > I ask you where the definition you are using for “Defend” comes from, what you think it means, and if it is not a verb, what is it? I used the two you gave, and showed that the later can’t be used for the context of structure, therefore the former is the only one usable. So any use of the later is a polysemy fallacy. > [@Scipio\_Artelius](#): > > However, the premise is that, because we understand him, that is evidence that your claim that it cannot be used in that context, is wrong. You understanding him does not invalidate my point. You claiming that since you understand him, then he is right, is an appeal to popularity. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2020, 11:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-decs-should-cost-10m-additional-isk-for-each-outgoing-war/225763/325 "2020-03-14T23:49:36Z")
> [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > No, I mean dafuck Well its not english, so Im afraid I dont understand it. Unless its an attempt to bypass the profanity filter. Which is not allowed I believe. > [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > I used the two you gave, and showed that the later can’t be used for the context of structure, therefore the former is the only one usable. So any use of the later is a polysemy fallacy. This is not a pair of sentences in english, Im afraid. I hope you dont submit papers with this level of inaccuracy. No Im sure you dont. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-decs-should-cost-10m-additional-isk-for-each-outgoing-war/225763.md?page=15) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-decs-should-cost-10m-additional-isk-for-each-outgoing-war/225763.md?page=17)