# War decs should cost 10m additional isk for each outgoing war **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [March 14, 2020, 1:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-decs-should-cost-10m-additional-isk-for-each-outgoing-war/225763 "2020-03-14T13:29:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 21
**Author:** ![Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zhalyd_lyehin/32/358574_2.png) [@Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zhalyd_Lyehin)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2020, 6:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-decs-should-cost-10m-additional-isk-for-each-outgoing-war/225763/406 "2020-03-15T06:48:38Z")
🔴 > [@Solonius\_Rex](#): > > You get less interaction because corpmates are no longer corpmates and you dont have as many players communicating anymore. That argument is hilarious. Even if corps split up, people communicate outside of corp chats as well. Corps would also not splinter if they really want to stay connected. Nothing else of the other recently introduced changes like war invulnerability if you don’t have a structure would change either. The good things that would change, however, are that smaller corps can war dec big targets without having to pay a huge sum to do so. This would create the potential for more destructive interaction, not less. ---
**Author:** ![Monstah\_Khaos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/monstah_khaos/32/190565_2.png) [@Monstah\_Khaos](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Monstah_Khaos)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2020, 8:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-decs-should-cost-10m-additional-isk-for-each-outgoing-war/225763/407 "2020-03-15T08:17:59Z")
Would make more sense to not allow war decs on corps or alliances with less than 10 members (or whatever) total. This way, corps are actually fighting corps with members in it and possible established, instead of upstart corps with a few people in it who won’t get much of a chance to do anything when they can’t defend a POS they are learning on…or they are being destroyed everywhere they try to do the base line content. “wardecing” any corp under 10 members isn’t war… it is simply adding more targets in HiSec to get away with killing. This was the whole reason people wardecd in HiSec back before this structure thing. I saw more ships getting popped in HiSec everywhere I went than I ever saw in Null or even Low… and it caused a LOT of people to leave… including myself and 2 friends I tried to get into the game which I had completely forgotten to mention last reply. ---
**Author:** ![Black\_Pedro](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/black_pedro/32/257285_2.png) [@Black\_Pedro](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Black_Pedro)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2020, 8:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-decs-should-cost-10m-additional-isk-for-each-outgoing-war/225763/408 "2020-03-15T08:56:37Z")
Again, this is already in the game. You and your 9 (or 99) friends can play the game without having to deal with wars. Form a corp and have fun! However, if you want to deploy a structure, there has to be a way to fight over it no? It would be completely broken if citadels held by a one-man corp were impossible to attack. Just keep your war immunity if you don’t want to fight wars. Simple. ---
**Author:** ![WuWuWaWaWeWeDaDa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wuwuwawawewedada/32/248650_2.png) [@WuWuWaWaWeWeDaDa](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/WuWuWaWaWeWeDaDa)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2020, 9:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-decs-should-cost-10m-additional-isk-for-each-outgoing-war/225763/409 "2020-03-15T09:50:37Z")
I support that there should be no wardecs for corps with less than 10 members. Also a wardec should cost 10 million per corp member, per week, for the corp/alliance declaring it. I play eve since 15 years, I stopped with POS stuff after I got killed twice settings stuff up in high sec. If eve had no trading profession, thats what I do in eve, I would have left after those experiences many years ago. Ive got one alt in a 0.0 corp which fights one of the large blocks in null, PvP doesnt interest me much. I once had a corp with a few dozen members which got spy infiltrated. Most members had enough of all the wardec from a few day old alt characters wardeccing everyone and stopped playing eve. No wars for corps with less than 10 people, so that they can enjoy structure stuff as startup group + 10 million cost per corp member for wardeccers would allow a lot of startups in eve and get old players back and more new players to stay in the game. How many years until CCP may implement these kind of wardec changes ? @CCP_Dopamine ---
**Author:** ![R-0-B-0-C-O-P](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/r-0-b-0-c-o-p/32/474175_2.png) [@R-0-B-0-C-O-P](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/R-0-B-0-C-O-P)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2020, 9:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-decs-should-cost-10m-additional-isk-for-each-outgoing-war/225763/410 "2020-03-15T09:57:07Z")
You should have quit the game 15 years ago. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2020, 9:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-decs-should-cost-10m-additional-isk-for-each-outgoing-war/225763/411 "2020-03-15T09:59:14Z")
Ive had 3 HS stations now for… Two years? Never been attacked. You must need help learning to operate your spaceoffice machine ---
**Author:** ![WuWuWaWaWeWeDaDa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wuwuwawawewedada/32/248650_2.png) [@WuWuWaWaWeWeDaDa](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/WuWuWaWaWeWeDaDa)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2020, 9:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-decs-should-cost-10m-additional-isk-for-each-outgoing-war/225763/412 "2020-03-15T09:59:30Z")
Post your content empty flaming elsewhere. ---
**Author:** ![Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zhalyd_lyehin/32/358574_2.png) [@Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zhalyd_Lyehin)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2020, 10:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-decs-should-cost-10m-additional-isk-for-each-outgoing-war/225763/413 "2020-03-15T10:01:13Z")
đź”´ > [@WuWuWaWaWeWeDaDa](#): > > Also a wardec should cost 10 million per corp member, per week, for the corp/alliance declaring it. In other words: 340B ISK to war dec an alliance like Goonswarm Federation, 170B for TEST or 200B for Horde? But only a meager 110M to war dec a corp with 11 people? I do not think you thought that through. ---
**Author:** ![WuWuWaWaWeWeDaDa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wuwuwawawewedada/32/248650_2.png) [@WuWuWaWaWeWeDaDa](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/WuWuWaWaWeWeDaDa)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2020, 10:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-decs-should-cost-10m-additional-isk-for-each-outgoing-war/225763/414 "2020-03-15T10:03:09Z")
% discounts per quantity is possible, CCP has creative game designers. These kind of things have been menioned for many years in the forum, the topic is nothing new. ---
**Author:** ![Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zhalyd_lyehin/32/358574_2.png) [@Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zhalyd_Lyehin)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2020, 10:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-decs-should-cost-10m-additional-isk-for-each-outgoing-war/225763/415 "2020-03-15T10:04:32Z")
đź”´ Discounts already happen. This is the current system where war dec cost is capped at 500M. You have literally described the current system. And it is the wrong system. It should not be more expensive to declare war against bigger targets than smaller; it should be cheaper. ---
**Author:** ![R-0-B-0-C-O-P](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/r-0-b-0-c-o-p/32/474175_2.png) [@R-0-B-0-C-O-P](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/R-0-B-0-C-O-P)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2020, 10:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-decs-should-cost-10m-additional-isk-for-each-outgoing-war/225763/416 "2020-03-15T10:15:00Z")
I’ll entertain your stupid idea for a second… Your idea is stupid because it will create a situation where people use alpha accounts to artificially increase their member count, making them very expensive to wardec. ---
**Author:** ![Winstonia\_Barakel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/winstonia_barakel/32/249982_2.png) [@Winstonia\_Barakel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Winstonia_Barakel)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2020, 10:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-decs-should-cost-10m-additional-isk-for-each-outgoing-war/225763/417 "2020-03-15T10:20:03Z")
Wow,what a thread. Some of the posters here start their discussion point like a typical wardeccing harrasment corp. …“Stupid”, great intro. ---
**Author:** ![R-0-B-0-C-O-P](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/r-0-b-0-c-o-p/32/474175_2.png) [@R-0-B-0-C-O-P](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/R-0-B-0-C-O-P)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2020, 10:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-decs-should-cost-10m-additional-isk-for-each-outgoing-war/225763/418 "2020-03-15T10:30:31Z")
I like to cut straight to the chase. It’s like some of you can’t see what happens next when you implement your cute little changes. The inability to see these things is frustrating. Yet here we are, the 4728th time this topic has come up after wars have seen nothing but nerfs and shortsighted changes with no balancing in sight. ---
**Author:** ![Mercurium\_Purum](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mercurium_purum/32/331163_2.png) [@Mercurium\_Purum](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mercurium_Purum)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2020, 10:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-decs-should-cost-10m-additional-isk-for-each-outgoing-war/225763/419 "2020-03-15T10:33:36Z")
With more governments imposing tough measures for covid19 we can expect more of these self-centered whiny threads. It’s enough to make me, a very peaceful character, go out and shoot them or sell mining permits or wardec or whatever shakes their little tree. ---
**Author:** ![Winstonia\_Barakel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/winstonia_barakel/32/249982_2.png) [@Winstonia\_Barakel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Winstonia_Barakel)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2020, 10:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-decs-should-cost-10m-additional-isk-for-each-outgoing-war/225763/420 "2020-03-15T10:40:42Z")
Encouraging other players to quit the game is exactly not what a game and a games community needs. " [R-0-B-0-C-O-P](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/R-0-B-0-C-O-P) [43m](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-decs-should-cost-10m-additional-isk-for-each-outgoing-war/225763/410) You should have quit the game 15 years ago." ---
**Author:** ![Black\_Pedro](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/black_pedro/32/257285_2.png) [@Black\_Pedro](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Black_Pedro)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2020, 10:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-decs-should-cost-10m-additional-isk-for-each-outgoing-war/225763/421 "2020-03-15T10:41:36Z")
> [@WuWuWaWaWeWeDaDa](#): > > How many years until CCP may implement these kind of wardec changes ? > @CCP_Dopamine :). It’s like the old days here on these forums, when 4 day-old alts would show up to intentionally stir up the pot with some contrarian trolling! Whether this is a years-long hobby of yours, or you just took up the pass time, keep it up! The forum needs your energy. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2020, 10:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-decs-should-cost-10m-additional-isk-for-each-outgoing-war/225763/422 "2020-03-15T10:46:21Z")
> [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#): > > both the content and context Only the content. “context” makes no sense in your sentence. It’s just BS. > [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#): > > If anyone is guilty of switching definitions to suit themselves it’s you. You’re the one confusing the word defend with the word protect, which while they are synonyms and often used interchangeably, don’t mean the same thing. I am not. I literally told you that if someone wants you dead your ship is dead, just like a structure, therefore it boils down to protection. The only meaning of “defend” for a structure that makes sense, is the same as “protect”, so you using another meaning when I ask the question about your ship is a polysemy fallacy : your answer actually makes no sense in the context. So yes, your answer was BS in the first place. > [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#): > > I haven’t argued against your imaginary point beyond pointing out that my post was contextually valid. And my point that you call imaginary, was that it was not contextually valid. Learn to read. > [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#): > > You don’t have a point to dodge Just because you want to ignore the point does not mean there is none. It means you are an hypocrite. > [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#): > > You could always try pulling your head out of your arse and considering that you may have made a mistake Yes, if I had. Which I did not, instead, YOU made mistakes in english comprehension, by removing the context to answer. You should learn english. And you should learn what context means, you used it twice in a sentence where this word made no sense, therefore I strongly suggest you learn what this word actually means. > [@Winstonia\_Barakel](#): > > Encouraging other players to quit the game is exactly not what a game and a games community needs. People who don’t like the game is not what the game needs either, hypocrite. ---
**Author:** ![Mercurium\_Purum](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mercurium_purum/32/331163_2.png) [@Mercurium\_Purum](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mercurium_Purum)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2020, 10:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-decs-should-cost-10m-additional-isk-for-each-outgoing-war/225763/423 "2020-03-15T10:50:27Z")
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**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2020, 10:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-decs-should-cost-10m-additional-isk-for-each-outgoing-war/225763/424 "2020-03-15T10:51:53Z")
> [@R-0-B-0-C-O-P](#): > > Please tell me who is a viable and reasonable target for us. Well make yourself a viable target in the first place. Stop complaining about your gameplay. Who can do more, can do less. Just don’t take wars where it’s not possible that the target will defend. It’s not rocket science, if you want to have fun in the game, stop minmaxing and try to play it. I think just an increase of 10M per character more the aggressive corp as compared to the defender, would be good, but that would mean the need to lock corp invites as long as the corp is an aggressor. ---
**Author:** ![Winstonia\_Barakel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/winstonia_barakel/32/249982_2.png) [@Winstonia\_Barakel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Winstonia_Barakel)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2020, 10:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-decs-should-cost-10m-additional-isk-for-each-outgoing-war/225763/425 "2020-03-15T10:53:28Z")
“People who don’t like the game is not what the game needs either, hypocrite.” It can be assumed that players who like a game do actually play it and those who dont…Dont. What is your input on wardecs? [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-decs-should-cost-10m-additional-isk-for-each-outgoing-war/225763.md?page=20) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-decs-should-cost-10m-additional-isk-for-each-outgoing-war/225763.md?page=22)