# War On Corona Virus! **URL:** \ **Category:** Out Of Pod Experience\ **Created:** [March 12, 2020, 10:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-on-corona-virus/225469 "2020-03-12T22:32:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![lilsteel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lilsteel/32/272085_2.png) [@lilsteel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/lilsteel)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2020, 10:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-on-corona-virus/225469/248 "2020-04-19T22:19:03Z")
> [@Gowa\_Hyasyoda](#): > > many as 100 million people could die to this virus within this decade and as bad as that sounds that is actually a very low number to how many could possibly die and based o The number of infections is important because, since the death rate is related to those infected, it means that the more people are infected, whether they die or not, the more chance of more people dying there is. The percentage of death of those dying may be the same at different amounts of infected, it may differ. Those interquartile range data shows that infection rates varied, but I think death rates may vary. So far, I have seen around 20% of deaths from those infected, compared to 21% of death, but many , many more people are already infected, most of them with no way to prove it or to verify it yet. Symptoms are a good indication that some thing may be wrong, and that it may be the virus, causing the disease, but , that is not a proof that it is, and, that is not how to verify if it is. Of course, it is a good reason to verify, since, if you have symptoms from it, you want to know if you have it or not. 80% of those infected recovered, however, I am pretty sure that those 80% are related to the numbers of those tested, since, those that are not tested may not know if they have recovered, since they were not tested. Therefore, that means a greater numbers of people are infected, and , a greater number of people recovered, and, a greater percentage of people recovered. However, since the infection rate, and R° rate is greater, it also means that the numbers of those infected would be to over 100 million, to, over 1 billion, in the not long distant future, possibly this year. - > [@Gowa\_Hyasyoda](#): > > I am really trying to sugar coat it by not taking into account all other possible things that could very likely go wrong while not being overly optimistic about things suddenly going perfectly well in an unrealistic way. > > Just trying to keep it within the limit of how little we know so far. While it’s a good thing to stay in touch with reality, as it avoids to make clerical errors, by overlooking them, and not correcting them in time, it’s important to use that perception of reality in positive ways, to solve the problem rather than let it overwhelm others. Distancing yourself from reality can create more adverse effect than having too much sugar coating, and omitting potential problems which, if taken in account, would allow to prevent damage by not procrastinating and accepting payments while procrastinating while others die, and you really don’t have any way to help them, let alone put them out of their misery, if you only knew when they can’t overcome it positively, while not being overly optimistic, such as in paranoid. Other people do work and specialize to do work we don’t. Even if I had 4 or 6 specialty, I can only do 1 or 2 of them at a time, maybe 3. If I work harder 4, and 5 is not cheaper. - imgur - JmSERXn # My dad’s finally out of the hospital recovering from COVID-19 [ZachWilliam](https://imgur.com/user/ZachWilliam) 91,361 Views • 5h • via [iPhone](https://imgur.com/apps) ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/6/e/6e30c2aef1f6c05b21230172414227188cf77652.jpeg) This man recovered, however, he didn’t wear a mask. He has a nice breathing gas tank though. They are not so cheap. I had to get oxygen from hospitals quite a few times while poisoned, twice in the same day with 2 ambulance in the same day before. [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/e/7/7/e770c91c99e83a80ed160b79045586686686682a.jpeg "COVID-19 | Coronavirus: Epidemiology, Pathophysiology | APRIL UPDATE") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRfwZcLeOm4) Premieres in 18 hours - April 20, 1:00 PM # COVID-19 | Coronavirus: Virology, Epidemiology, Pathophysiology | APRIL UPDATE 87 waiting • _Premieres Apr 20, 2020_ 295 Thumbs Up , 1 Thumbs down [Ninja Nerd Science](https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6QYFutt9cluQ3uSM963_KQ) 500K subscribers - You don’t have to wait until the bird flu to kill 2 birds with one stone. You can sharpen it and it might work for 3 or more, and save all the birds. - Again, from > **[Data suggest nCoV more infectious than 1918 flu, but what does that mean?](https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/covid-19/data-suggest-ncov-more-infectious-1918-flu-what-does-mean)** above, a bit below the first reference used for data on the estimate of the R-nought (R0) value—a measure of infectiousness … > ### **Experts applaud study but urge caution** > > Marc Lipsitch, PhD, a professor of epidemiology and the director of the Center for Communicable Disease Dynamics (CCDD) at Harvard University, warned that a higher R0 than the 1918 flu pandemic does not necessarily mean nCoV will ultimately cause more severe illnesses or deaths. > > “If pre-symptomatic transmission is not too common, then control measures may be more effective than flu, even for R0 higher than flu (as was the case for SARS),” he told CIDRAP News via email. - [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/b/c/1/bc14251b47fdbff0878dfd206a228f71baf4f781.jpeg "Michigan Health Care Worker Blasts 'Idiots' Protesting Stay-Home Order | The 11th Hour | MSNBC") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1t-GzuZukQs) # Michigan Health Care Worker Blasts ‘Idiots’ Protesting Stay-Home Order | The 11th Hour | MSNBC 751,413 views • _Apr 16, 2020_ [MSNBC](https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCaXkIU1QidjPwiAYu6GcHjg) 2.83M subscribers ---
**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2020, 5:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-on-corona-virus/225469/249 "2020-04-20T05:28:18Z")
> [@Gowa\_Hyasyoda](#): > > this thing has barely even begun. Yes, and people don’t understand that. In the country where I live they started to prepare for some first controlled reopening of additional shops, and everyone is like ‘it’s almost over soon, why do they not open all the shops, that’s not fair.’ … I’m in the comfortable position that I can do my work 100% from home office, so is the rest in my company. But they don’t get it either. I tried to talk about it and suggested that we further build on our remote work capabilities because we will probably be the last ones to see any “normalization”. There is zero reason to cause more movement of people who can work from home anyway, we will work this way until the pandemic is over. No one wants to hear that it seems. They are incapable of thinking this way. I hit a serious wall there, and got told we will see in a month… I’m not sure what they think will happen in a month, the math is quite clear… ---
**Author:** ![lilsteel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lilsteel/32/272085_2.png) [@lilsteel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/lilsteel)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2020, 7:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-on-corona-virus/225469/250 "2020-04-20T07:39:11Z")
> [@Karak\_Terrel](#): > > No one wants to hear that it seems. They are incapable of thinking this way. I hit a serious wall there, and got told we will see in a month… I’m not sure what they think will happen in a month, the math is quite clear… The best case scenario would be that it kills all those who don’t want to know. That could potentially get rid of the problem for at least a good 200 years, until 2202. ---
**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2020, 8:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-on-corona-virus/225469/251 "2020-04-20T08:29:57Z")
> [@Karak\_Terrel](#): > > The best case scenario would be that it kills all those who don’t want to know. There are people far worse than those simply in denial. I can understand that some have a hard time grasping the magnitude of this. There are actually people who think this is a hoax and demand the lockdown should be abandoned. There are still people who compare this to the flu even after what happened in Italy and other countries that where completely overwhelmed. ---
**Author:** ![DrysonBennington](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drysonbennington/32/501369_2.png) [@DrysonBennington](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DrysonBennington)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2020, 9:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-on-corona-virus/225469/252 "2020-04-20T09:46:24Z")
Like the people in this video? These people are the enemy. These people are out protesting, not adhering to social distancing and not wearing masks. Too bad this wasn’t the zombie apocalypse. All they want to be able to say is "Did you see me on that t.v. screen?’ Their arguments for why they are protesting are non-existent. If Trump says the pandemic and SARS-CoV-2 virus is hoax, then that’s okay to get them votes. ---
**Author:** ![DrysonBennington](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drysonbennington/32/501369_2.png) [@DrysonBennington](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DrysonBennington)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2020, 10:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-on-corona-virus/225469/254 "2020-04-20T10:44:30Z")
Everything that you are saying is true Gowa. Without a vaccine there is no “returning to normal” there is no such thing as a “new normal” either given the mutability factor of the virus. The intelligent ones are staying home and social distancing. The brain dead are the ones gathering in large masses hoping to be able to use “Gotcha” down the road, if they survive. It’s more like, This is life without humanity after 2022. ---
**Author:** ![DrysonBennington](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drysonbennington/32/501369_2.png) [@DrysonBennington](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DrysonBennington)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2020, 2:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-on-corona-virus/225469/255 "2020-04-20T14:49:03Z")
A breakdown of SARS-CoV-2 across the U.S. and several states. **U.S.** ![US20](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/e/7/e7fa33e4f70eae433e23e6326129524517afeae5.jpeg) **Ohio** ![Ohio20](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/9/9/996bf6794b18d720fe60ddf7a2f151088a9aac2e.jpeg) **NYC** ![NYC](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/a/e/aea5ca80a3cbafe2c4751d44cd5750a24f1148b6.jpeg) **New Jersey** ![NewJersey](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/b/c/bc2c68000a72c339a081db5c45c74fd996746aff.jpeg) **New Orleans** ![NewOrleans20](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/b/7/b72e7630f3fb1598623adbcd76ee6623f4bb9105.jpeg) **Chicago** ![Chicago20](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/8/485b34112dd19eaf96d6f96149c338a71a5baf59.jpeg) **Pennsylvania** ![Pennsylvania20](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/9/c/9c00ac00dc24e3e3ca0246a43c5e486b9cc50b43.jpeg) **Florida** ![Florida20](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/3/a/3a69fa94c3e6f1b30bbc51c960327c0cd0d1ece6.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![lilsteel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lilsteel/32/272085_2.png) [@lilsteel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/lilsteel)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2020, 10:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-on-corona-virus/225469/256 "2020-04-20T22:12:25Z")
> [@Karak\_Terrel](#): > > There are actually people who think this is a hoax and demand the lockdown should be abandoned. There are still people who compare this to the flu even after what happened in Italy and other countries that where completely overwhelmed. Don’t misinterpret comparisons though. Just because humans needed the capacity to deal with that flu, not the 2009 H1N1 one, the one 100 years before, like if it was an anniversary to honor the wrongdoing, doesn’t mean that we, as human, cannot learn from the logistics required to solve that problem. There was a medical problem, however, there were also other problems, which, now, we have better resources and systems , more efficient, to document those, and solve them. If people make comparisons to try to get paid for the wrong conclusion, that is their own business. That is my own business to hold them accountable for their own business decision, if it is to cause me business losses and they seek to forfeit my work to prove it in courts. I won’t settle for political powers. Those are based on scientific facts, more than just political science, science of propaganda and others, which, exist, and are needed when used, or, can be needed when used, however, that depends on the conditions. In fact, I have to take a bachelor of sociology to deal with attacks and competitions against me, which deal with monopoly cases, all 3 to 4 of them, during my business period of practice, and, I will never ever need that once in my whole life and whole business cycle. That is only for others, because of their **inefficacy** to function any better in society, which makes the society to have and create those social problems, which I do not only work with better, but also design systems which are better than only good for society, compared to , what they get paid, including doctors. Don’t wonder why they die with the money. They can’t pay me due to their fear of the fact that they can be held accountable for not having been paying me before, and how they tried to coerce me into crimes. They don’t think they can solve the problem, and they can’t understand why it would be better for me to solve the problem they try to cause for it. They forget the problem , and see paranoid opportunity that, they can win from it, as if from some sort of psychological warfare against me, and that, while there are scientific proofs of it, and the military police knows why and have information systems to monitor it, and how much, others won’t find, and they can share in their privacy. I mean, sure, you can open a new hospital, and have specialist solve those problems, but it won’t stop the problem from occurring and being created from those people who die from it. ---
**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2020, 8:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-on-corona-virus/225469/257 "2020-04-21T08:57:17Z")
Cool story. I take your word that it makes all sense somehow. ---
**Author:** ![lilsteel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lilsteel/32/272085_2.png) [@lilsteel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/lilsteel)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2020, 12:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-on-corona-virus/225469/258 "2020-04-21T12:23:42Z")
It’s not a story, it’s about scientific facts. It’s also not about my word that it makes all sense somehow, it’s about scientific facts. I also have to records attempts to make me paranoid, since, as they are paranoid, they can’t see why it’s wrong to try to make others paranoid, and , can’t see a problem if they decide what goes on, when they break the law. That is their mental condition. I record it, and use systems to do so, offline, and online. I register copyright for it for work. Those works are in courts. I have to call them today. I have proof of attacks against me from them, and the army also confirmed they do. They however, don’t have the right to do so, and didn’t , and so, it is my work to prove how they try to do it for the future. I also gather evidence as to how they try to , and why, such as in, why they try to justify those attacks against me. It’s also important to review how they tried to divert from the facts since 1983 +, since , it became more evident , then. [https://twitter.com/i/events/1252292314124427264](https://twitter.com/i/events/1252292314124427264) They mention about how South Korea and Chine tracked the cases. However, they don’t say who delivered food to those in lock down and so on. There seems to be a lot of info missing. They say China and South Korea had no public info when it happened to them. This seems rather strange that they would handle it with fewer cases. They then try to take medical advantage of it. I don’t think the US will be able to keep it less military if it causes their army to start dying from it. It doesn’t take anything else. twitter i/events/1219057585707315201 # Coronavirus: WHO warns ‘the worst is yet ahead of us’ in outbreak The total number of global cases has surpassed 2.4 million, including more than 170,000 fatalities. More than 646,000 patients are reported to have recovered. 🇦🇺 Australia “already reached a turning point” on outbreak 🇺🇸 Trump says he will temporarily suspend immigration 🇮🇳 India reports highest single-day recovery 🇮🇹 Italy records first one-day drop in infections since March 10 # Coronavirus: Care home deaths almost double in England and Wales - If my system was not better than the courts, I wouldn’t be able to do anything. I can’t rely on them to pay everyone else and credit them for work when they try to discredit me, when my work is better. I get nothing to do better and it’s not fair for me, and they get everything to do worst, and it’s not fair for me, and it’s not fair for them either. - 170,000 fatalities divided by / 2.4 million cases = 0.708, 7.08% deaths of cases. 2.4m cases divided by 7.7 b people = 3.11 x 10 e-4, times 100 = 0.031 % of global population. Less than a 3rd of a tenth of a percent. 170,000 deaths divided by 7.7 b people = 2.20 e-5, times 100 = 0.002 % of global population. Less than a 5th of a hundredth of a percent. 646,000 patients are reported to have recovered divided by 2.4m cases = 0.269,167. Times 100, = 26.916,7 % of cases recovered. 646,000 recovered divided by 7.7b people = 8.38e-5 , times 100 = 0.008% of global population. 646,000 recovered plus + 170,000 deaths = 816,000 people. 170,000 deaths divided by 816,000 people = 0.208,3, times 100 = 20.83%, down 0.15%. 816,000 people times x \* 0.15% = 122,400, divided by 100 = 1,224 less deaths. 646,000 recovered divided by 816,000 people = 0.7916,7 , times 100 = 79.167%, up 0.146,7%. 816,000 people times x \* 0.146,7% = 119,707.2, divided by 100 = 1,197.072 more recovery. 816,000 people divided by 2.4m cases = 0.34, times 100 = 34% of cases resolved. - [Bloomberg @business](https://twitter.com/business) · [8h](https://twitter.com/business/status/1252461300627709954) [#Coronavirus](https://twitter.com/hashtag/Coronavirus?src=hashtag_click) latest: -Cases top 2.4 million; deaths exceed 170,000 -Virus wipes out more than 90% of international flights -Indonesia bans mass travel ahead of Eid festival -China reports its sixth straight day without a fatality H.K. Extends Measures; China Cases at Month Low: Virus Update More signs emerged that the coronavirus outbreak is slowing in hard-hit areas, with the U.S., Italy and U.K. showing smaller gains in new cases. China reported its sixth straight day without a… [bloomberg.com](https://t.co/pISGly5qde?amp=1) - [https://twitter.com/ShamikaRavi/status/1252433219057676290](https://twitter.com/ShamikaRavi/status/1252433219057676290) ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/1/7/1758e7bb3deb72994a66c1cdb0079d9c9e8d5f0f.jpeg) - [https://twitter.com/ShamikaRavi/status/1252437785081810945](https://twitter.com/ShamikaRavi/status/1252437785081810945) ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/6/7/67fcf3eb4edf5ae1503eba99dfb7a459ef5d471a.jpeg) - [https://twitter.com/ShamikaRavi/status/1252438114221453314](https://twitter.com/ShamikaRavi/status/1252438114221453314) ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/7/0/70895bbc4f30b4be342c1fbf928d7d0995ebb912.jpeg) ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/e/1/e1a33b07dd7c95b254af18fe5cdb6421ac63514a.jpeg) - [https://twitter.com/ShamikaRavi/status/1252502949839777793](https://twitter.com/ShamikaRavi/status/1252502949839777793) 5 hours ago ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/c/3/c3c6c3747ad34f3952bfe237274177fa0e11fdc8.jpeg) - [https://twitter.com/businessinsider/status/1238533348215095297](https://twitter.com/businessinsider/status/1238533348215095297) 2:32 PM · Mar 13, 2020 # A third of the global population is on coronavirus lockdown 22 hours ago - [https://twitter.com/iamNamanSharma/status/1252161304594313217](https://twitter.com/iamNamanSharma/status/1252161304594313217) 6 minutes , 51 seconds audio visual documentary - _10 hours later:_ [https://twitter.com/businessinsider/status/1237804003246968832](https://twitter.com/businessinsider/status/1237804003246968832) ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/f/5/f5c30e57885ce4c80c32fb8e9b438fe8e035793d.png) This data is misleading, and , it’s the level of misleading that is alarming. while , some had no or little public info on this, they also had unpublished info on it, which unpublished into cannot be applied to other countries or cases, because of omitted paramaters, conditions, even the fact that they come after. Why not share the way and methods more , after getting them done, which worked there, and update them to be more effective to work in the other systems as each is different, with their own timelines, and so on. It’s possible to find what makes the difference, and lower the curves there too. Also, the US does have more tests done than others. The timing of those tests is also related to how effective they are at using them to slow down the spread. The later it is, the more cases there are to stop. Already, an epidemic is too many cases to stop by itself, it takes medical intervention to stop. Pandemic is even worst spreading than that, and , more global. The US needs to know how to stop this better, whether it is more distancing, or, protective equipment, or other. The lack of cooperation from other countries who already solve the problem and are not helping, while trying to use this lack of info, communication gap, and, again, omission of what they want to omit, to create their own false sense of reality , isn’t going to help them, and neither does the ones who try to do so. - [https://twitter.com/Ruth\_ochiez/status/1251157174354472964](https://twitter.com/Ruth_ochiez/status/1251157174354472964) However, if done too late, other measures will have to be in place. This solution of , the key being a combination of isolation, tracing and testing , to flatten the curve, is a key which works at a given time, that given time being , at the start of the problem, when they knew. Now, if they try to use that knowledge to justify others death as their own lack of prevention and protection, perhaps they should have given them more preparation instead of using their preparation as a biological weapon. It’s like making trillion from information systems, but, omitting how it causes damage as a weapon. Worst, accuse those who do less damage of wrongdoing, while interfering against their communication, to blame them for not pointing the damage the other system caused creating lack - Do not confuse : Actuary , > **[Actuarial science](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Actuarial_science)** > > Actuarial science is the discipline that applies mathematical and statistical methods to assess risk in insurance, pension, finance, investment, psychology, medicine, and other industries and professions. > Actuaries are professionals trained in this discipline. In many countries, actuaries must demonstrate their competence by passing a series of rigorous professional examinations focused in fields such as probability and predictive analysis. According to the U.S. News & World Report, their job ... > **[Canadian Institute of Actuaries](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Institute_of_Actuaries)** > > The Canadian Institute of Actuaries (CIA) is the national organization of the actuarial profession in Canada. It was incorporated March 18, 1965. The FCIA designation stands for Fellow of the Canadian Institute of Actuaries. As the national organization of the Canadian actuarial profession, the CIA serves the public through the provision by the profession of actuarial services and advice by: representing the Canadian actuarial profession in the formulation of public policy; promoting the advancem... and Act of War, > **[Act of War (disambiguation)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Act_of_War_(disambiguation))** > > An Act of war or casus belli is an action by one country against another with an intention to provoke a war or an action that occurs during a declared war or armed conflict between military forces of any origin. > Act of war may also refer to: and Act of Worry. > **[Acceptance and Commitment Therapy (ACT) For Generalized Anxiety Disorder](https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4537636/)** While it may take many Actuary to solve the problem, there were only around 4 of those around 1983 in Canada. It was not so easy to graduate in that field and be here then. In the late 1990s, there was an Actuary from Mexico at the job search center, while, there was so much discrimination, and intent to forfeit my computer programs work, that, there was no company or employers hiring me. Now, they have worst problems. - > # Generalized Anxiety Disorder > > Feb 15 • 2019 > > # People with Generlized Anxiety Disorder (GAD) worry excessively and uncontrollably about daily life events and activities. They often experience uncomfortable physical symptoms, including fatigue and sore muscles, and they can also have trouble sleeping and concentrating. > > ##### WHAT DOES “WORRY” LOOK LIKE? > > Worry involves thoughts about negative events that **might** happen in the future. It usually begins as a “what if” question: > > - **What if I’m caught in traffic and late for work?** My boss might be angry with me and he might even fire me. What if I can’t find another job and my friends and family think I’m a failure? > … > > ##### WHAT IS “EXCESSIVE AND UNCONTROLLABLE” WORRY? > > Obviously, everybody worries from time to time. This is normal. But worry becomes a problem when it happens almost every day, and becomes “excessive” and “uncontrollable”. What this means is that people with GAD worry too much, they worry more than others would, and they find it hard to stop worrying once they start. - > # Benefits of worry? > > Feb 20 • 2019 > > # Is there a part of you that believes your worries serve a good purpose, despite the time and energy it takes out of your day? > > When we think on some level that worrying is helping, we tend to worry more. > > **If you identified with one or more of the following beliefs, you likely believe that worrying is useful to you in some way.** This might come as a surprise, even causing you to ask, “How is this possible? I hate lying awake worrying!” > > **Sometimes our beliefs can be buried, hidden even from ourselves.** One way to tell whether we believe in something is to carefully observe how we act. Our beliefs and behaviours are closely related (see [Tool 3: Your Anxiety Fingerprint](https://www.anxietycanada.com/articles/benefits-of-worry/#)). > … > > ### Worrying shows I am a caring person. > > If you believe this, you might think, “I worry about my family because I love and care about them,” or “People know me as the worrier; I’m the one who worries and cares for people.” Now , of course, if someone pays you to worry, it might develop the problem, and, create a lack of control. Not only that, but if it’s done to mislead others, or, in subterfuge, it may create loss of control in them as well, or , create other negative problems. - An **actuary** is a business professional who deals with the measurement and management of risk and uncertainty (BeAnActuary 2011a). 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It would be like using and creating encryption to hide crimes, and, while they refuse to accept communication of reports of those crimes, to try to use encryption to hold me liable for gathering evidence of crimes, they themselves refused to accept report of, to aggravate robbery beyond embezzlement, fraud, extortion, and organized crime. That’s using encryption to be an accessory after the fact, while intended to do so, before the fact. - ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/1/9/19d53a4689ef938801ee3be99b541dd4ed7d1609.jpeg) COVID-19 # Coronavirus: UK and Australia set to begin human vaccine trials The total number of global cases has surpassed 2.5 million, including more than 170,000 fatalities. More than 650,000 patients are reported to have recovered. 🇺🇸 FDA approves first at-home test for COVID-19 🇩🇪 German states require masks on public transportation 🇿🇦 South Africa announces $26-billion rescue package 🇸🇦 Saudi Arabia revises curfew times for Ramadan 🇸🇬 Singapore extends lockdown as cases spike 🌍 Running of the bulls and Oktoberfest have been called off - They would try to steal my future son’s intellectual property as well, as they already have interfered against his inheritance. They went to try to justify economic boycott to disrupt her government , and pay themselves for it. Their courts do fraud, and can’t see why their refusal to accept evidence and their attempt to forfeit the evidence of that is damaging security. They try to make false excuse about that it is good for them to do that for constitutional matter, when it is not. They don’t have the mental health capable to protect that. They failed more than 100% of my adult life, since I am 15. - [https://twitter.com/i/events/1252601630014357509](https://twitter.com/i/events/1252601630014357509) ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/6/0/6065d184e92157345bbb78fc39682cc58a785209.jpeg) COVID-19 · Earlier today # Alberta meat-packing plant to close after a worker dies and hundreds fall sick with COVID-19 Cargill Ltd. announced it is temporarily closing its meat-processing plant in High River, Alberta, after hundreds of people connected to the facility tested positive for COVID-19. The company and government officials are facing criticism for not ensuring the safety of employees at the plant. [Photo via @globeandmail](https://twitter.com/globeandmail/status/1252398420762886145) Thank you to all the essential worker, but, if you get tested before going to work, the clean up costs after that are potentially less costly, but maybe not. We’ll find out soon. It’s also good not to infect 100 workers out of 200, even if 200 are sick instead of 100. ---
**Author:** ![DrysonBennington](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drysonbennington/32/501369_2.png) [@DrysonBennington](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DrysonBennington)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2020, 11:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-on-corona-virus/225469/259 "2020-04-22T11:51:59Z")
![US20a](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/1/5/15976cdb89a07b791a9bf684274e69135f9c12ed.jpeg) If I have done the calculations correctly, the U.S. will cross the threshold of 1.00 people being infected every 1.07 seconds in 202 days. On 11.10.2020 the U.S. will reach and pass the threshold of 1.00. ---
**Author:** ![DrysonBennington](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drysonbennington/32/501369_2.png) [@DrysonBennington](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DrysonBennington)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2020, 12:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-on-corona-virus/225469/260 "2020-04-22T12:04:26Z")
They didn’t fall sick with COVID-19, they fell sick with the SARS-CoV-2 virus. COVID-19 is the disease that is a result of the SARS-CoV-2 infecting the lungs and other organs of the body. ---
**Author:** ![DrysonBennington](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drysonbennington/32/501369_2.png) [@DrysonBennington](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DrysonBennington)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2020, 12:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-on-corona-virus/225469/262 "2020-04-22T12:33:27Z")
Wrong, that is totally fake news and a lie. ---
**Author:** ![DrysonBennington](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drysonbennington/32/501369_2.png) [@DrysonBennington](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DrysonBennington)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2020, 12:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-on-corona-virus/225469/263 "2020-04-22T12:37:18Z")
![Ohio20a](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/f/5/f525fc250f906eae06134c6e6ffcaab4fccbcb85.jpeg) After a 1,300 plus increase of newly infected cases in Ohio, the number of new infections has dropped down to around 475 today. The trend should rebound to around 700 tomorrow and then drop slightly to around 400 by Friday. That is if people in Ohio don’t so something stupid like they did on 4.20/21.2020. Ignorance sure is bliss. ---
**Author:** ![lilsteel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lilsteel/32/272085_2.png) [@lilsteel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/lilsteel)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2020, 11:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-on-corona-virus/225469/265 "2020-04-23T23:27:31Z")
> **[As COVID-19 advances, doctors rethink rush to ventilate](https://twitter.com/i/events/1253330047450050561)** > > Machines to help people breathe have become the major weapon for medics fighting COVID-19. But as doctors get a better understanding of what the disease does to the body, many have become more sparing with the equipment. - > ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/f/1/f1ba104f8ec201765f0ba82e98f5a894b4892467.jpeg) - I found illegal online content and activity. I already had an offer to have an office with NATO’s Cyber-Security HQ in Tallinn, Estonia, which, some people tried to make seem as if it would be something that I would have to get, or that I could otherwise miss, even though it is not the case, and, even though that it was no the case. When reporting it to local authorities, they tried to incriminate me, trying to justify communication gap as reasonable ground for indictment, as if they didn’t do it to others, while seeking to justify to do it to others. I obviously had to report it to the army since it endangers social well-being, and, interferes against the ability to investigate, and report it. Even some of their lawyers tried to say I should have reported to them instead, which I had already done, and, the military intelligence already knew since 1988. That is more than 14 years before. 14 years after that would have been 2002, from 1988 to 1998 is 10 years, + 4 = 2002. 2012 was 24 years after that, just under a quarter of a century. A quarter of a century after 1987, which is when they started to try to cause the problem from here. There was already another 4 years before from another unionized group, doing similar things. They now talk about having “commercial rent relief program” but won’t pay me, since they already try to steal from me and had to be reported to Interpol for trying to steal my copyright and forfeit it, to credit themselves for discrediting me, and designing new laws to cover it up, while refusing to accept report of crimes, as if they were false reports of crimes, to interfere against reports of crimes. US has 49,690+ deaths, of 191,470+ deaths globally. That’s 25.95% (of deaths). Italy , at 25,545+ deaths, is 13.34% (of deaths). 2.73 m cases globally. At $10 per person, it would cost, for 2.73m person, $27.34m per day. Times 365 days per years = $9,979.1 m per years. That’s $9.979 billion per years. At that rate, Jeff Bezos could afford it for 10 years. ![440px-Graham%27s_Hierarchy_of_Disagreement.svg](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/f/2/f22ba99ff4497295c436995c1ca96a7de8c11a91.png) **Ad hominem** is a Latin word that means “against the man.” As the name suggests, it is a literary term that involves commenting on or against an opponent, to undermine him instead of his arguments. > **[Ad hominem](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem)** > > Ad hominem (Latin for "to the person"), short for argumentum ad hominem, is a term is applied to several different types of arguments, most of which are fallacious. Typically it refers to a fallacious argumentative strategy whereby genuine discussion of the topic at hand is avoided by instead attacking the character, motive, or other attribute of the person making the argument, or persons associated with the argument, rather than attacking the substance of the argument itself. The most common f... So, when parties are against me, and delaying my engagement for marriage, they are not for me. If they argue it’s my fault, they are against me further, for refusing to see their actions, responsibility, and stop lying to attack me as means of attack and war. If they argue I should agree with them, I would be a party to the damage and delays they cause, and teaming up against me, while lying with false arguments to extort from me. If they try to make my inventory programs of those facts seem like non-sense, they further attack my copyrights for those programs and intellectual property related. If they make false claims that it endangers their safety while attacking me, when in fact, they do not only try to cover their attacks, but the damage they intend to hold me liable, while thinking it’s legal for them to seek to forfeit my work, it further does attack me, and it’s a fraud too. Just because they can and always were able to be eternally evil wrongdoers and lose the potential to be forgiven doesn’t mean that they can’t. If they try to make a business out of it, then, that is their own business. It doesn’t mean I should support it, and mislead them, instead of putting and developing efforts to make them realize their own mistake, and why it is better not to be. - What does ad hominem fallacy mean? Abusive **ad hominem** argument (or direct **ad hominem** ) is associated with an attack to the character of the person carrying an argument. … An **ad hominem fallacy** occurs when one attacks the character of an interlocutor in an attempt to refute their argument. - Anyways, it consoles me that I get paid after this. However, they should have paid me before, instead of thinking they could pay everyone else to use their money to prosecute me with. It shows how evil they are. Not only people’s intelligence has place for improvement, they are also mislead by propagandist trying to make money by make me look bad, and trying to interfere against their security if they support me, or so it seems. I think I should investigate that as well, on top of the other damage previously intended to be diverted from, as act of war, in attempts to disrupt my intelligence, which inventory programs had to be updated to include gathering evidence of those intent and actual actions to do the disruption. I’m sure some people do know, but don’t know why. Some don’t know, but are doing it subconsciously , due to some external factors influencing them. Some know and intend others to do so for their own military goals. And some know, but, don’t feel like they can help, since they are mislead to believe it’s ok not to help when they get paid to do so. - ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/c/7/c72d298f117f14f6a16772b4fefd2cd4da37c09f.jpeg) ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/5/6/5695fd4caf8a1c92835d0dc6038750e42909f4b5.png) Then, they tried to make it seem like if it was a danger to their constitution to try to forfeit my copyright and fact findings. What more convenient than to make it impossible for me to protect myself, to justify making millions for them, and use that to protect their real estate assets, while giving themselves financial support due to illness for over 5 trillion dollars. They fail to see how it does attack me for over 5 trillion dollars over 25 years. To interfere against my means to gather evidence, and justify to refuse evidence, they try to force me to surrender to injustice, hide them, while they get paid over $100,000 a year to judge this in error, each, like if I could not do anything about it, and would be ok to say that I give up and so on, like if it wouldn’t cause me damage to do so, and to them, even though it may be infinitely worst for them, while they try to make it seem different . That is besides the 200 years of military facts, they try to make seem like if it has nothing to do with peace or war, some, all the time, while it is always opposite and contrary in facts, and scientific facts, even worst and worse than fraudulently, and, by extortion. They support them to make me look like a danger, however, they won’t allow me to use how they try to make me look like a danger. For them, it’s like it’s a danger for me to use how they try to make me look like danger, and I should not be intended to be allowed to do anything about it, and should just give up. They fail to see in their mental condition why and how it would actually cause more problem for me to do so and, play along with their sick minds. I cannot only disagree with them, but, if I don’t register copyright for it, and how they do it, my fiancée won’t get protection for it, and the war against my engagement will go on, with the same delays and so on. Same immoral spying, or, military intelligence, or other. - # Bill Gates: Global Innovation Is The Key To Achieving A Return To Normal 364,110 views • _Apr 24, 2020_ [364K views - 13 hours ago New](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNiuaKKEPu8) [The Late Show with Stephen Colbert](https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMtFAi84ehTSYSE9XoHefig) 7.41M subscribers - If and when they try to create fears , and try to hold me liable to cause, even though they are the ones trying to create them, I have the duty to expose them , and register how they try to , and why they try to get me to pay for them. Yes, because, otherwise, not only would I be marginalized, but, also, I would not care to protect my work, so that it can be used to help others, and, it would fail the test to be able to function when intent to use it as a weapon against others are acted upon it. Since they also try to cover it, and interfere against my communication to systems which would help me to prosper, I would not be able to find out, and , would die mislead about it, with false representation of trust and so on. It’s also important to record how much they try to interfere against me to benefit to society, and why they are so sick as to think it’s not damaging society for them to try to justify against benefit to society. ---
**Author:** ![DrysonBennington](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drysonbennington/32/501369_2.png) [@DrysonBennington](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DrysonBennington)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 11:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-on-corona-virus/225469/266 "2020-04-24T23:11:44Z")
COVID-19 is not a strain of coronavirus. COVID-19 is the disease that results from being infected with SARS-CoV-2. God’s light shone on America once before during the Revolutionary War and we won. Don’t…Tread…On…Me That same light is shining down again on Americans. Just like the Boston Tea Party we will dump the the unfair treatment that we have been forced to endure over the side. When we emerge from this pandemic, we will be a new country. A wealthy country both in freedom and value. The government has often times raised taxes on the working man and woman to the point of Americans barely making ends meet. That was during a time when there wasn’t a pandemic. This time though, America has a bargaining chip on its side. The pandemic itself. These are Americas terms: A stimulus check in the amount of $2,500 a month distributed in the same manner and to the same people that the last stimulus check was delivered. The cost of not delivering $2,500 checks every month until the pandemic is over will destroy this nation. Currently the need to build the U.S. economy up and maintain it is more important than notion of the value of a dollar. In the U.S. A George Washington is still worth a George Washington. That value will never deteriorate, every The stimulus payout will remain in effect until the vaccine has been developed and proven to work against the virus and kills the virus before it becomes COVID-19. Other terms include developing medication that prevents those whose are asymptomatic from further shedding the virus. Medication to prevent people who have recovered from the infection from getting the infection again and becoming asymptomatic. Medication to prevent the virus from transmitting from humans to house cats and Big Cats and from house cats to house cats along with house cats to humans. Until the requirements for killing the virus and ensuring that the virus does not return, no American is required by law to return to work based on the misinformation and mentality that the government has had during this pandemic that has caused and will cause the future erosion of the American economy. The stimulus payments are meant to ensure that the economy remains active. The notion of those calling the pandemic a hoax and blah blah blah are not to be listened too but should, rather have their names taken down and a data base built to deal with such people in a selective manner. No one cares about the Right to Return to Work rights of the sign holders. Its because of their ignorance that America will continue to suffer. its the arrogance of the government that the U.S. will continue to suffer and as a result of such suffering, America, we want paid. We do not have to put ourselves in harms way when there is no effective means of fighting the virus. Our lives do not exist to bring this administration glory and t.v. ratings. We want our taxes back. ---
**Author:** ![lilsteel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lilsteel/32/272085_2.png) [@lilsteel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/lilsteel)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2020, 1:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-on-corona-virus/225469/268 "2020-04-25T01:09:16Z")
[https://twitter.com/MaxSingularity/status/1253760366334496768](https://twitter.com/MaxSingularity/status/1253760366334496768) [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/e/a/4/ea40480c4a22790594a51841cebd93dbd3351f9a.jpeg "NASA Builds Ventilator Prototype for Coronavirus Patients") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NB7SdwkBqHU) # NASA Builds Ventilator Prototype for Coronavirus Patients 21,742 views • _Apr 23, 2020_ [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/c/b/cb696c252d4230223360eb875002765df536cdec.jpeg)](https://www.youtube.com/user/JPLnews) [NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory](https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCryGec9PdUCLjpJW2mgCuLw) 636K subscribers - [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/2/9/2/292de600da8d41bc315040010eb0e22665519edc.jpeg "What face masks actually do against coronavirus") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P27HRClMf2U) # What face masks actually do against coronavirus 964,264 views • _Apr 22, 2020_ [Vox](https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLXo7UDZvByw2ixzpQCufnA) 8.02M subscribers Those are better used until more tests are done, because, we don’t have the test results, and, those tests are the way to find out, and to know. Once we know, it doesn’t mean that masks are not good. It’s a good protection , not the best, against it, until then (knowledge from facts). Some tests are not even as accurate as needed to know for sure. They give an approximate knowledge of the condition. Some mask are better and can protect 99% instead 95% or less. Even 99% only takes 100 exposure to give an almost one chance to go through. The other 99 times would prevent it. The worst that can happen is that, it’s contracted the first time, and prevent it 99 times after. Of course, you would get those cases where , the first 2 exposure to it would go through, and , 198 times after, not. If you wear gloves, and, it gets on the gloves, and , you put it in your mask, by touching inside the mask, with the gloves which has the virus on it, you will breathe it directly and , even if it doesn’t go to someone else, it will go in the lungs. - I don’t get those stimulus, that’s why I’m in courts against them. They owe me over $4,000 in taxes , $2,500 for 5 years and $700 for last year for business storage costs of computers and data. However, there’s another 4 years they tried to steal with false arguments in courts, which, I use the transcript against them for acts of war. I certainly have no use or intention to organize with them since they try to steal my work and would try to seek to forfeit my rights to it. In the USA , it’s a bit different, because, even though the Canadian army protects me, the US Army’s interest is greater (not to mention 9 times greater). - [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/e/8/6/e86c6965757dbd0e858c490369d53fa4efce6f46.jpeg "The Scope – YC119 Kyonoke Inquest") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xp_T-IdZA7g) # The Scope – YC119 Kyonoke Inquest 34,460 views • _Apr 7, 2017_ [EVE Online](https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwF3VyalTHzL0L-GDlwtbRw) 100K subscribers - # Coronavirus: Cities around the world prepare to loosen restrictions despite concerns The total number of global cases has surpassed 2.7 million, including more than 190,000 fatalities. More than 737,000 patients are reported to have recovered. To allow more worker to update work conditions and , wear protective measures, on top of improving tracing and other measures, would make economic conditions easier to adapt, as, if too many workers stay in quarantine, and , are unable to work to improve economy, it will take more than one computer to fix this, so as to improve conditions enough, to produce enough and keep health safe from the virus (and subsequent disease). Also, there should be more programs to upgrade work systems when in quarantine, so that, if and when we need more quarantine, that we are better prepared to deal with them better and more effectively. That is what computers, and, yes, the internet, or, other electronic networks, are good for, and, are designed for, and, should be designed for. That does include logistics to replace essential staff who died or , need to be replaced, including medical systems. (And no, sorry, discrimination and favoritism is not going to work, and may cause more problems, in direct relation to the amount of it done.) - 737,000+ recovered divided by 2.7 million+ cases = 0.272962962962963 27.29% . 190,000+ fatalities divided by 2.7 million+ cases = 0.0703703703703704 7.037% 737,000+ recovered + 190,000+ fatalities = 927,000 partly conclusive cases, since, those recovered can get it again, obviously later only though… 190,000+ fatalities divided by 927,000 of those cases = 0.2049622437971953 Still, 20.49% fatalities from the number of conclusive cases resolved, with 79.50 recovered, up 0.5%, from over 21% fatalities. That is why testing will become more useful, to find who has it 2 or 3 times or more, also, the rate of fatalities among those cases who have it 2 or more times. Also, what it means to those more vulnerable who never recovered from it yet, as to, get a better idea of what to expect and how. - Also, the info from Reuters above (the previous post) about the 25.87% of patients have recovered is not those who recovered from the conclusive cases. Those recovery numbers are only the amount relative to the total numbers of patients with the case, most of which are not resolved. More than 79% of the cases do resolve, not 25%. It is a classical representation of a ratio without stating what it is based on, and, obviously, like a basket with 2 which could be apple, pears, banana, or, for 2 persons instead, it loses it’s accuracy unless the details of the conditions in which that system is related is included in the result as part of the equation to achieve that result, as, a result of a ratio without it’s part is about as valuable as potential discrimination is done by omitting facts. - Additionally, since we never had this scope of global quarantine / pandemic before, now is only a good time , even if not the best time, and that it would have been better to do it before , to design systems for this pandemic, and, reuse those systems for subsequent ones, since it may be the first time since 1918 that this happens. It’s also evident that we didn’t have the information systems, or, capacity to design information systems that we now have available to use, to design such systems, to help people deal with it better. While computer won’t get infected, it may be important to use safety measure to keep them clean , especially the input components, and, perhaps, the parts near the mouth, so that they can be cleaned, replaced, and so on, so that , what is needed to keep them operational and , not infect users, as, this would then be another problem to solve . Obviously, even if we did design prevention and get prepared for it before, now would be a good time to gather data so that such preparation can be improved, as , every bit counts. In other words, there would be a phase of the data gathering to be done now, to be used for testing. - > **[Argument from fallacy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_fallacy)** > > Argument from fallacy is the formal fallacy of analyzing an argument and inferring that, since it contains a fallacy, its conclusion must be false. It is also called argument to logic (argumentum ad logicam), the fallacy fallacy, the fallacist's fallacy, and the bad reasons fallacy. > An argument from fallacy has the following general argument form: > If P, then Q. > P is a fallacious argument. > Therefore, Q is false. > Thus, it is a special case of denying the antecedent where the antecedent, rather ... - Tracing also works better with cases which can be tested. Quarantine helps to trace since, the less people move around near others, the less tracing there is to do. It is also better when there are fewer cases, like, before the end of it, to solve it. - _Edit at 05:18:_ > **[First at-home COVID-19 testing kit authorized by the FDA](https://www.theverge.com/2020/4/21/21229273/home-coronavirus-test-labcorp-fda-ppe-swab-pixel-health-care)** > > Health care workers and first responders have first dibs. Self-sampling sidesteps the need for a clinician to perform the test, reducing their exposure to symptomatic patients. It also frees up more personal protective equipment, which is in short supply. The test costs $119. … Self-administered nose swabs are just as accurate as those more invasive swabbing methods, [according to an analysis](https://techcrunch.com/2020/03/25/study-behind-updated-fda-guidance-shows-self-swab-tests-are-as-effective-as-those-done-by-clinicians/) done by UnitedHealth Group and the Gates Foundation. - [https://www.cnet.com/how-to/can-you-use-a-coronavirus-home-testing-kit-not-yet-and-heres-why/](https://www.cnet.com/how-to/can-you-use-a-coronavirus-home-testing-kit-not-yet-and-heres-why/) > There is a global shortage of testing for COVID-19 – a huge barrier when it comes to ending the pandemic. No, but, you can’t find out who needs tracing if you can’t verify who has it. Symptoms are not verification. It won’t solve the problem, it is not a huge barrier, but, it can help to find out. Yes, because , it only takes 1 person to infect 7.7 billion people, so, that last one has to be traced. - [https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/can-uv-light-kill-the-coronavirus-experts-break-down-online-claims-1.4885104](https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/can-uv-light-kill-the-coronavirus-experts-break-down-online-claims-1.4885104) - > **[Coronavirus : les informations essentielles du vendredi 24 avril](https://www-latribune-fr.translate.goog/economie/france/direct-coronavirus-le-repos-des-heros-ou-quand-le-secteur-du-tourisme-s-organise-pour-offrir-des-vacances-aux-soignants-846027.html?xtor=EPR-2-%5Bl-actu-du-jour%5D-20200424&_ope=eyJndWlkIjoiYjMyZTE1YmYxMmY3NjU2NWMzNTE1MWVkYTFkNDcwZjMifQ%3D%3D&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en)** > > Suivez en direct les dernières informations liées à la pandémie de Covid-19, en France et dans le monde, en ce vendredi 24 avril. Economy \> France # Coronavirus: essential information for Friday, April 24 By [latribune.fr](http://latribune.fr) (with AFP and Reuters) | 4/24/2020, 8:16 AM | 4664 words … **11:00 am - An effective vaccine in monkeys, according to a Chinese laboratory** ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/7/c/7c9faadd56a7741bb926d9f910d92a497249266a.jpeg) An experimental vaccine has for the first time _“largely protected”_ monkeys against the new coronavirus, says a Chinese laboratory at the origin of the research. The vaccine, which uses inert pathogens of the virus that causes Covid-19 disease, was administered to eight rhesus macaques, which were then artificially contaminated three weeks later, according to research published by the pharmaceutical giant Sinovac. Biotech. > “The four macaques who received the high-dose vaccine had no detectable trace of the virus in the lungs seven days after their contamination,” said the laboratory, which published these results on April 19 on the bioRxiv website. Four other monkeys, who received the vaccine in lower doses, had an increase in their viral load in the body but nevertheless managed to resist the disease. These results must still be peer reviewed before being validated by the scientific community. Read also: [Coronavirus: green light in China for clinical trials of two new vaccines](https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=en&pto=aue&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=auto&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=https://www.latribune.fr/economie/international/coronavirus-feu-vert-en-chine-aux-essais-cliniques-de-deux-nouveaux-vaccins-845128.html&usg=ALkJrhgjctSdSlR-z5Lonl3vg8e2vaCzzA) - > **[Coronavirus : feu vert en Chine aux essais cliniques de deux nouveaux vaccins](https://www-latribune-fr.translate.goog/economie/international/coronavirus-feu-vert-en-chine-aux-essais-cliniques-de-deux-nouveaux-vaccins-845128.html?_x_tr_sl=fr&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en)** > > La Chine a annoncé mardi avoir approuvé des essais cliniques sur l'homme pour deux vaccins expérimentaux supplémentaires afin de lutter contre le nouveau coronavirus, dans le cadre d'une lutte mondiale pour juguler la pandémie. Economy \> International # Coronavirus: green light in China for clinical trials of two new vaccines By AFP | 04/14/2020, 15:26 | 359 words ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/a/f/af4e113c664a63e49cde841009f57adba17c0c65.jpeg) # China announced on Tuesday that it has approved human clinical trials for two additional experimental vaccines to fight the new coronavirus, as part of a global fight to curb the pandemic. China is now running clinical trials for three different vaccine candidates. Both vaccines use inactivated pathogens, said Wu Yuanbin, an official with the Chinese Ministry of Science and Technology, at a media briefing. … Beijing had approved initial trials on March 16 for a vaccine developed by the Military Academy of Medical Sciences and the Chinese biotechnology group CanSino listed in Hong Kong. … _“Vaccination of subjects in phase 1 of the clinical trials and recruitment of volunteers for phase 2 of the clinical trials started on April 9,” regarding the vaccine, said Wu. first coronavirus vaccine in the world to begin phase 2 clinical studies "._ … ## 12 to 18 months minimum … The estimated time for a vaccine is 12 to 18 months minimum. ---
**Author:** ![DrysonBennington](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drysonbennington/32/501369_2.png) [@DrysonBennington](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DrysonBennington)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2020, 1:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-on-corona-virus/225469/269 "2020-04-25T13:23:54Z")
Potential of SARS-CoV-2 creating new antibody resistance based off of the COVID-19 disease. Within 12 to 18 months, I am speculating that SARS-CoV-2 will have evolved to defeat new vaccines. Antibiotics will have no effect on the SARS-CoV-2 virus itself. The people who have recovered and then become infected again could be the carriers of the second generation of SARS-CoV-2. Bacteria and viruses have been known to become immune to antibiotics as a result of the bacteria or virus communicating with the infection itself. Example: You have a SARS-CoV-2 virus in the human body that is has attached itself to the cell that it infects. Since all of the viruses do not attach themselves at one time but attach themselves randomly, the infection in each cell takes place at different times. A cell is infected and is replicating the SARS-CoV-2 virus. During the replication process of the infection cell, the cell itself is going through abnormal chemical changes. Since the cells are not being infected at the same rate there would be SARS-CoV-2 virus roaming around the lungs until they bump into the ACE(2) receptor. A SARS-CoV-2 virus passing close to an infected ACE(2) cell senses a chemical change taking place, based on chemical signatures released by the infected cell. The chemical signatures normally associated with normal bacterial RNA has one chemical signature. The chemical signature of the bacteria that the antibiotics are fighting along with the chemical signature of the antibiotics also has another chemical signature. The chemical signature of the new strain of antibiotics and infected cell is taken in by the SARS-CoV-2 virus. The virus then builds a new RNA structure that is able to defeat the antibiotic being used by adding a compound to its RNA that breaks the chemical compound of the antibiotic up so that it is less effective. The virus now creates a new infection that is more resilient to the bodies own antibodies and pharmaceutically produced antibiotics. The new virus passes out of the human body through sneezing and coughing to then infect someone else. Once infected with the new strain the virus is able to infect cells without being deterred by antibiotics being used to mitigate the infection once the SARS-CoV-2 virus has infected a cell. This process is taking place before the person has a full blown case of COVID-19 and is shedding the virus through coughing or sneezing. Another aspect of the SARS-CoV-2 virus is that it might be able to read the DNA of the infected person to build new RNA coding that along with its new RNA coding of being resistant to antibiotics could infect people with the same DNA coding as the initial host. The new virus is shed from the host and encounters several new hosts that it infects and makes sick. The virus then finds another host who has the same DNA coding as the initial host but lives 500 miles away. The newly infected person becomes twice as sick as a non-like DNA human host thus spreading the base of the virus twice as fast through non-like DNA human hosts. Until a vaccine has been developed to kill the SARS-CoV-2 virus outright, the pandemic will be exponential, even more so if the virus evolves the ability to encode new RNA into the replication process that allows COVID-19 to have immunity from antibiotic treatments. The U.S. will hit 10,000 new or repeat infections every 24 hours, sometime today or tomorrow ![US20a](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/c/a/ca7b1f61d831feb8646c0a31ab44da74ccedcffe.jpeg) The infection rate took a weird curve in Ohio today. I made a model of the curve based on the spreadsheet numbers. ![OH25a](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/e/0/e08449dc724eb056605afa49b9ead535c01edaba.jpeg) ![OH25](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/c/9/c9a0498ec431a0ec4908c909ee592bc0169a93f2.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![lilsteel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lilsteel/32/272085_2.png) [@lilsteel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/lilsteel)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 7:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-on-corona-virus/225469/270 "2020-04-26T07:43:09Z")
It’s like if they’re worried someone will make a new processor without patenting it, as if it could be used for war, so that, if they can’t keep the inventor stupid enough to be unable to produce it, and use it to repair the damage done to disrupt his intelligence, the parties controlling him before, will try to pay others who had “more”, and , should not be affected by a change in intelligence from the new processor, who, they want to pay others to fear, as reasons to disrupt their intelligence, so that they can’t protect their assets and rights. The first thing I would have to do once I get my processor done is to measure the interference caused against it, to prove how much money they try to steal against it, as for the other interference they caused against the previous intellectual property, which was accepted without causing interference, unless of course, the interference was too great, including the interference of rights, life and incomes, so that, the new system has to be developed into a military system to prevent further attacks. - > > > Bologna Fish, M.D. @Ut5vnQGtgNxy4nr > > > cheddarpaw @cheddarpaw ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/0/a/0a7477e07c00e5ad9eb7ce724352e4d65215c8a5.jpeg) ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/8/a/8a20d21a98d86174986dc0ca17e411b43865d96a.jpeg) ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/0/f/0f860903b435bc183dff906370f353f88cc4acaf.jpeg) - Global Percents of death back down to 19.8% again. So, as long as that number keeps going down, the pandemic is not getting worst, and it’s getting better, and, it will be easier to finish it, even though there will still be infections. Once the pandemic is over, then, there will be more regional epidemic to solve. We are not there yet. It may be to an epidemic level in South Korea now, or, endemic level, however, it is a global pandemic. - **Endemic** refers to the constant presence and/or usual prevalence of a disease or infectious agent in a population within a geographic area. Hyperendemic refers to persistent, high **levels** of disease occurrence. Occasionally, the amount of disease in a community rises above the expected **level**. [https://www.cdc.gov/csels/dsepd/ss1978/lesson1/section11.html](https://www.cdc.gov/csels/dsepd/ss1978/lesson1/section11.html) > ---
**Author:** ![DrysonBennington](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drysonbennington/32/501369_2.png) [@DrysonBennington](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DrysonBennington)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 11:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-on-corona-virus/225469/271 "2020-04-26T23:28:58Z")
The U.S. hit 10k+ new infections today. ![US26](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/9/a/9a550bdb76ba91df2a6b90647a2831bb03ee0277.jpeg) [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-on-corona-virus/225469.md?page=12) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/war-on-corona-virus/225469.md?page=14)