# Wardec infinite rehash **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [December 22, 2017, 5:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wardec-infinite-rehash/46871 "2017-12-22T17:12:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2017, 7:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wardec-infinite-rehash/46871/101 "2017-12-22T19:53:39Z")
> [@Kohada\_Koheiji](#): > > Do you know anyone on EBT? Welfare? Housing assitance? Low income energy for heating in cold climates? > > We have, in society, programs for equalizing people. The game isn’t real life. We aren’t talking about low income people struggling for heating. We are talking about a group of people with gaming computers, spending their spare time enjoying themselves. We are hardly part of society’s disadvantaged. So given that there is some parity about us all IRL, we don’t even need to consider that at all. We only need to consider the in game situation, where it isn’t quite even. The defenders in a wardec actually have an advantage - they can have an unlimited supply of free allies to help them. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2017, 7:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wardec-infinite-rehash/46871/102 "2017-12-22T19:53:43Z")
> [@Kohada\_Koheiji](#): > > Concord is like police. Do you really advocate that we have no standards, no protections, no civilization? Because a wardec basically does this - it bribes the police to ignore crime! They’re not the Police, they’re the nasty assed specialist combat team that gets sent in when you shoot someone in the face without sanction, sanction being the correct flags. A better analogy for Concord is one of gamekeepers, with hisec being the game preserve. They sell permits for hunting specific groups, they kill people who hunt without permits or the prey having flagged themselves for PvP. Wardec corps purchase permits, gankers poach. ---
**Author:** ![Ralph\_King-Griffin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ralph_king-griffin/32/252855_2.png) [@Ralph\_King-Griffin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ralph_King-Griffin)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2017, 7:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wardec-infinite-rehash/46871/103 "2017-12-22T19:53:53Z")
oooh i found it, bear in mind this lad had under 5m sp at the time > **[Kronos | Vice Hunter | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/42777527/)** > > Vice Hunter (The Scope) lost their Kronos in Botane (Sinq Laison). Final Blow by Wael Hucel-Ge (Lords.Of.Midnight) flying in a Ishkur. Total Value: 2,077,935,881.99 ISK yeah so apparently newbros apparently need coddling ---
**Author:** ![Linus\_Gorp](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/linus_gorp/32/317333_2.png) [@Linus\_Gorp](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Linus_Gorp)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2017, 7:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wardec-infinite-rehash/46871/104 "2017-12-22T19:55:33Z")
![237583436217319424](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/2X/5/526988428b97aade0f6c335c8e39ca219c016034.png) That’s some interesting fitting there. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2017, 7:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wardec-infinite-rehash/46871/105 "2017-12-22T19:55:44Z")
> [@Scipio\_Artelius](#): > > they can have an unlimited supply of free allies to help them. Actually, this is a good point. (Not that your others arent, I just went “ooh thats a good point” and couldnt add to it so now Im waffling.) ---
**Author:** ![Rin\_Vocaloid2](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rin_vocaloid2/32/90543_2.png) [@Rin\_Vocaloid2](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rin_Vocaloid2)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2017, 7:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wardec-infinite-rehash/46871/106 "2017-12-22T19:56:29Z")
God, the blind on that one. That is one big pinata. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2017, 7:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wardec-infinite-rehash/46871/107 "2017-12-22T19:59:21Z")
> [@Ralph\_King-Griffin](#): > > oooh i found it, bear in mind this lad had under 5m sp at the time > > ``` > zkillboard.com > > ``` > > Kronos | Vice Hunter | Killmail > > Vice Hunter (The Scope) lost their Kronos in Botane (Sinq Laison). Final Blow by Wael Hucel-Ge (Lords.Of.Midnight) flying in a Ishkur. Total Value: 2,215,427,096.99 ISK > > yeah so apparently newbros apparently need coddling The Kronos player was seriously dumb, he should have come back in a Vagabond… ---
**Author:** ![Kohada\_Koheiji](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kohada_koheiji/32/45322_2.png) [@Kohada\_Koheiji](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kohada_Koheiji)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2017, 8:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wardec-infinite-rehash/46871/108 "2017-12-22T20:03:19Z")
Ok, fine. You get points for that. Yes, some people can buy sp. I’ve bought some, myself. I’m a chef, in real life. I can afford to buy ‘victory,’ at least in some measure. A lot can afford even more. You found one. But you only found one. We’re getting sidetracked, here. How does the practice of an alliance of many hundreds, killing noobs in lowsec, make sense? A lot of perspectives have been offered. And none of them are totally wrong. That’s the problem. Yes, such adversity does breed strength, as many have said. But it’s a fine line, and a controlled adversity, when I apply it in religion, or to my kids, or to a mush as a wizard. Force was used, in a controlled fashion. With mercy, and restraint. There is no mercy or restraint in a wardec. While the side effect may be that it strengthens those that live through it, it was NOT the goal of the war deccers. Stop acting as if they had any virtue? ---
**Author:** ![Ralph\_King-Griffin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ralph_king-griffin/32/252855_2.png) [@Ralph\_King-Griffin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ralph_King-Griffin)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2017, 8:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wardec-infinite-rehash/46871/109 "2017-12-22T20:06:16Z")
> [@Kohada\_Koheiji](#): > > Yes, some people can buy sp You couldn’t in 2014. ---
**Author:** ![Ralph\_King-Griffin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ralph_king-griffin/32/252855_2.png) [@Ralph\_King-Griffin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ralph_King-Griffin)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2017, 8:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wardec-infinite-rehash/46871/110 "2017-12-22T20:07:54Z")
> [@Kohada\_Koheiji](#): > > There is no mercy or restraint in a wardec. ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/3/5/35ef5b363194ec3339fef967c94d829ded358e5f.gif) ---
**Author:** ![yellow\_parasol](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yellow_parasol/32/10455_2.png) [@yellow\_parasol](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/yellow_parasol)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2017, 8:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wardec-infinite-rehash/46871/111 "2017-12-22T20:08:48Z")
For millions of years the evolutionary process defined the future of Life on this planet, and then came the modern western politician and decided to shift western society towards breeding decadent, self entitled, weak shitters who need to argue about things that are so elementary easy, that it just boggles my mind. the west is literally the laughing stock of the rest of the world, and most westerners are too ■■■■■■■ stupid to understand. ■■■■ this ■■■■, i’m out. ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2017, 8:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wardec-infinite-rehash/46871/112 "2017-12-22T20:09:09Z")
> [@Kohada\_Koheiji](#): > > We’re getting sidetracked, here. How does the practice of an alliance of many hundreds, killing noobs in lowsec, make sense? Well, lowsec is a pvp mecca and the factional warfare mechanics are designed to encourage low skill characters to be used to capture system nodes. The mechanics also include the necessity for the other side to defend those nodes. So it’s kind of made that way. Surely that’s off topic though. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2017, 8:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wardec-infinite-rehash/46871/113 "2017-12-22T20:12:22Z")
> [@Kohada\_Koheiji](#): > > While the side effect may be that it strengthens those that live through it This is the whole design criteria for Eve, if you can’t take the heat you either find a way to deflect it or get the hell out of the fire. Eve is survival of the fittest, and you sir, are unfit. ---
**Author:** ![Kohada\_Koheiji](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kohada_koheiji/32/45322_2.png) [@Kohada\_Koheiji](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kohada_Koheiji)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2017, 8:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wardec-infinite-rehash/46871/114 "2017-12-22T20:12:43Z")
> [@yellow\_parasol](#): > > For millions of years the evolutionary process defined the future of Life on this planet, and then came the modern western politician and decided to shift western society towards breeding decadent, self entitled, weak shitters who need to argue about things that are so elementary easy, that it just boggles my mind. > > the west is literally the laughing stock of the rest of the world, and most westerners are too ■■■■■■■ stupid to understand. > > ■■■■ this ■■■■, i’m out. We’re not all from the West, racially or philosophically. You’re actually arguing some weird ■■■■. The West is the one that wants to have ‘blind’ justice, ‘blind’ faith, and ‘fairness’ that is not fair. We from Eastern philosophies have always looked inward, and I’m sorry to burst your bubble, but we’re the first to recognize the inherent worth of life, the dignity of the human capacity to experience ‘mind,’ and the first to balk at being ‘fair,’ when ‘fair’ means murder. ---
**Author:** ![Kohada\_Koheiji](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kohada_koheiji/32/45322_2.png) [@Kohada\_Koheiji](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kohada_Koheiji)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2017, 8:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wardec-infinite-rehash/46871/115 "2017-12-22T20:13:47Z")
> [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#): > > Eve is survival of the fittest, and you sir, are unfit. We’ll see about that. You and yours have stifled me for now, but I’m not dead, yet. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2017, 8:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wardec-infinite-rehash/46871/116 "2017-12-22T20:16:21Z")
> [@Kohada\_Koheiji](#): > > How does the practice of an alliance of many hundreds, killing noobs in lowsec, make sense? Here’s an analogy; How does a country the size of the US or Russia have a problem with a small band of 30 guys in a cave make sense? The point being, if I may, is that those 30 guys can hide, move and still operate with almost no difficulty even when the greatest military force in the world is actively trying to kill them. Be the heroic bandits, wily freedom fighters or nasty terrorist evildoers, fighting The Man, mostly by not being at home when he calls round. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2017, 8:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wardec-infinite-rehash/46871/117 "2017-12-22T20:17:00Z")
> [@Kohada\_Koheiji](#): > > You and yours Ha, I’m no hunter, I’m prey, wily and hard to catch, but prey nonetheless. There’s at least one person in this thread that would love to score my corpse, because it’d be the first one, and he knows I’d lol about it. ---
**Author:** ![Linus\_Gorp](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/linus_gorp/32/317333_2.png) [@Linus\_Gorp](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Linus_Gorp)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2017, 8:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wardec-infinite-rehash/46871/118 "2017-12-22T20:17:13Z")
> [@Kohada\_Koheiji](#): > > to balk at being ‘fair,’ when ‘fair’ means murder. You were already told that EVE ain’t fair. ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2017, 8:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wardec-infinite-rehash/46871/119 "2017-12-22T20:17:46Z")
> [@Kohada\_Koheiji](#): > > We’ll see about that. You and yours have stifled me for now, but I’m not dead, yet. That’s the best post I’ve read in this thread. Congrats. I was starting to think that you were an alt of the shill that has been harping on about wardecs in thread after thread lately. Glad to see I might have been wrong and that you actually are here to learn how to play the game, not change the game. ---
**Author:** ![Kohada\_Koheiji](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kohada_koheiji/32/45322_2.png) [@Kohada\_Koheiji](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kohada_Koheiji)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2017, 8:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wardec-infinite-rehash/46871/120 "2017-12-22T20:19:54Z")
Here’s another analogy. We didn’t have any problem with them. ISIS can and is being annihilated. Been there, done that. It’s just that our job was support, not war, directly. For all practical purposes, Commanding General, AMC, is third in command of the US Armed Forces. Until recently. We didn’t bother with a band of little militants. You’re getting into real life, now, though, and the most I am allowed to offer is analogy, in this field. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wardec-infinite-rehash/46871.md?page=5) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wardec-infinite-rehash/46871.md?page=7)