# Wardec - mechanics to eliminate players **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [February 17, 2018, 7:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wardec-mechanics-to-eliminate-players/57890 "2018-02-17T19:20:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 16
**Author:** ![Aaron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aaron/32/379788_2.png) [@Aaron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aaron)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2018, 1:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wardec-mechanics-to-eliminate-players/57890/305 "2018-02-21T01:10:45Z")
OP, quick reply. It’s not CCP’s fault that you are unable to fight a wardec. You have options like staying NPC and using that toon to run missions with your friends. You and your friends could have made PVP toons created a corp just to mess about in frigates and learn PVP using the earnings from your NPC toon. Re-sub, get your buddies to go NPC with you. Don’t quit as you are going to miss out on some epic game play. It looks like I should do that venture I was talking about as it would get people to have a different perspective. I really can’t tell you enough that Eve really can be one of those edge of your seat type games if you can go with the flow. I’ve had some of the best gaming experiences of my life right here on Eve. ---
**Author:** ![Awesome\_Possum](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/awesome_possum/32/54051_2.png) [@Awesome\_Possum](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Awesome_Possum)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2018, 1:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wardec-mechanics-to-eliminate-players/57890/306 "2018-02-21T01:23:14Z")
Been gone since 2012, and I’m seeing the same whiney carebear excuses. You’ve had hisec nerfed quite enough, thanks. Enjoy what you have, because if you can complain at this level of foam sword waving, you would have shat yourself in a hisec player corp just 5 years ago, when it was plenty safe enough. Hey CCP, for April 1st, can we go back to the old Hisec mechanics… just for a week? Maybe that will shut these kids up. ---
**Author:** ![Litsea\_Reticulata](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/litsea_reticulata/32/328016_2.png) [@Litsea\_Reticulata](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Litsea_Reticulata)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2018, 2:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wardec-mechanics-to-eliminate-players/57890/307 "2018-02-21T02:39:37Z")
> [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > They want Eve to change, to play something that is not Eve. The CSM are requesting that EVE change. Given that the CSM are supposed to be the voice of the players, if there is disagreement in the direction the CSM is going perhaps more interaction with the CSM is in order to voice a dissenting opinion. EVE is not what it once was and much of the voice calling for change comes from those who believe the current meta is driving players away. There is not shortage of players who ‘used’ to play eve and the last CSM summit notes rightly highlight that rather than expend development resources on trying to improve the ‘new player experience’ it is equally important, if not more so, to spend development time on changes that could encourage players who no longer play to return to the game. ---
**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2018, 3:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wardec-mechanics-to-eliminate-players/57890/308 "2018-02-21T03:52:14Z")
CSM are currently a voice for the nullsec powerblocs Nothing else ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2018, 5:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wardec-mechanics-to-eliminate-players/57890/309 "2018-02-21T05:14:12Z")
> [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#): > > > [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#): > > > > The fact that you’re obstinate and will say anything in an attempt to appear right > > That’s damn rich coming from you; in fact it describes your forum modus operandi. Heh, you got no room to talk at all, Mr. Ad Hominem. ---
**Author:** ![Dora\_SiPetualang](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dora_sipetualang/32/52316_2.png) [@Dora\_SiPetualang](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dora_SiPetualang)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2018, 5:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wardec-mechanics-to-eliminate-players/57890/310 "2018-02-21T05:39:10Z")
I agree with OP … today mechanics make it harder to build a new corps from the ground up because any corps can wardec them and destroy their dream for the future. Maybe adding timed imunity for the new corps will work … Example, new corps cannot be legally wardecs for their first 1 year, etc. The time that was reasonable enough for them to prepare for any incoming wardecs in the future. So we can see new corps building in eve and fight equally in terms of war. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2018, 12:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wardec-mechanics-to-eliminate-players/57890/311 "2018-02-21T12:16:38Z")
I agree that the game is not perfect. However many proposals are actually just people who want to change the mechanisms of the game so they don’t have to adapt to it. Just the answer above me : he want to make corps IMMUNE. WTF ? He ALREADY is immune when he is in a NPC corp. ---
**Author:** ![gnshadowninja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gnshadowninja/32/160500_2.png) [@gnshadowninja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/gnshadowninja)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2018, 1:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wardec-mechanics-to-eliminate-players/57890/312 "2018-02-21T13:17:57Z")
> [@Dora\_SiPetualang](#): > > Maybe adding timed imunity for the new corps will work … Example, new corps cannot be legally wardecs for their first 1 year, etc. Like really? 1 Year immunity from war dec’s considering there is so many ways to avoid them already. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2018, 1:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wardec-mechanics-to-eliminate-players/57890/313 "2018-02-21T13:36:06Z")
> [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#): > > By the way, I don’t watch local in high sec. Then your strategy is sub optimal. And I dont believe you. Still if invention is not an extreme example but looking at the local chat window is, I suggest you have your priorities confused in an attempt to make this well known PvP game have some king of hermits paradise pve mode. ---
**Author:** ![Lady\_Ayeipsia](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lady_ayeipsia/32/23528_2.png) [@Lady\_Ayeipsia](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lady_Ayeipsia)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2018, 1:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wardec-mechanics-to-eliminate-players/57890/314 "2018-02-21T13:46:26Z")
> [@Dora\_SiPetualang](#): > > Maybe adding timed imunity for the new corps will work … Example, new corps cannot be legally wardecs for their first 1 year, etc. So every year minus one week, I transfer my POCOs and structures to a new corp and they can never be killed or attacked by anyone? Sorry, but it would have to have more than just a time limit. The moment a corp puts up or takes ownership of a structure, then they must become deccable. Otherwise you setup a system that can be abused heavily. ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2018, 1:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wardec-mechanics-to-eliminate-players/57890/315 "2018-02-21T13:54:11Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > I suggest you have your priorities confused in an attempt to make this well known PvP game have some king of hermits paradise pve mode. I put my foot down on this. You should know DMC better than that, after all this time. He is is not, and never has, advocated for a safe space for PvE moders. Your accusation is not fair or representative. ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2018, 2:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wardec-mechanics-to-eliminate-players/57890/316 "2018-02-21T14:14:58Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > Then your strategy is sub optimal. > > And I dont believe you. Why should I watch local in High Sec, I’m in NPC Corp and don’t need to watch out for War Dec enemies. Also there are numerous systems in-game that are devoid of players for weeks on end. FYI - I never said Eve Online wasn’t a PvP game. For a generalized description Eve Online is indeed a PvP game but when you look at each specific activity in game, some of those could feasibly bypass PvP involvement, thus making it PvE. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2018, 2:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wardec-mechanics-to-eliminate-players/57890/317 "2018-02-21T14:26:58Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > He is is not, and never has, advocated for a safe space for PvE moders Its exactly what he does constantly. ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2018, 2:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wardec-mechanics-to-eliminate-players/57890/318 "2018-02-21T14:27:56Z")
> [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#): > > some of those could feasibly bypass PvP involvement, thus making it PvE. PvE is an activity one can choose to engage in. But there is NO way to bypass PvP involvement. PvP permeates all aspects of EVE. Even when engaging in PvE, you are still involved in PvP, as you are detracting someone else of that content. ---
**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2018, 2:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wardec-mechanics-to-eliminate-players/57890/319 "2018-02-21T14:39:25Z")
But DMC says it’s not true so it has to be like he says /s Also lol @ the guy wanting 1 year dec shield for new corps 😂 They already exist and are permanent… They’re called npc corp ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2018, 2:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wardec-mechanics-to-eliminate-players/57890/320 "2018-02-21T14:41:18Z")
> [@Dom\_Arkaral](#): > > Also lol @ the guy wanting 1 year dec shield for new corps 😂 > They already exist and are permanent… > They’re called npc corp Lol indeed. This toon has never left starter corp, and has done just fine by me. ---
**Author:** ![Keno\_Skir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/keno_skir/32/460582_2.png) [@Keno\_Skir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Keno_Skir)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2018, 3:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wardec-mechanics-to-eliminate-players/57890/321 "2018-02-21T15:05:01Z")
> [@Dom\_Arkaral](#): > > But DMC says it’s not true so it has to be like he says Mate I instantly knew DMC was back a little while ago when pretty much every post i’d ever made got liked at once. I wonder if his like farming will be as major as it was in the last iteration of the forums. ---
**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2018, 3:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wardec-mechanics-to-eliminate-players/57890/322 "2018-02-21T15:17:41Z")
Like farming is life Ask Nana hahahhaha ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2018, 3:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wardec-mechanics-to-eliminate-players/57890/323 "2018-02-21T15:19:01Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > Even when engaging in PvE, you are still involved in PvP, as you are detracting someone else of that content. Only if they’re in the same system. At DT resources are reset within that system. Mission running doesn’t detract content from anybody. I could go on but this debate is endless and tiresome. ---
**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2018, 3:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wardec-mechanics-to-eliminate-players/57890/324 "2018-02-21T15:23:20Z")
> [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#): > > Mission running doesn’t detract content from anybody. Something something ninja salvagers [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wardec-mechanics-to-eliminate-players/57890.md?page=15) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wardec-mechanics-to-eliminate-players/57890.md?page=17)