# Wardec - mechanics to eliminate players **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [February 17, 2018, 7:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wardec-mechanics-to-eliminate-players/57890 "2018-02-17T19:20:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 19
**Author:** ![Keno\_Skir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/keno_skir/32/460582_2.png) [@Keno\_Skir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Keno_Skir)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2018, 2:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wardec-mechanics-to-eliminate-players/57890/365 "2018-02-22T02:58:31Z")
> [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#): > > The ability to be completely alone in a specific system with no other players for days on end is highly probable and easily achieved. In that situation some activities performed in game would be devoid of PvP involvement which makes it PvE, to say otherwise is incorrect… Nope. The potential for incoming PvP no matter how remote is part of the risk calculation for any activity, even alone in a system for days on end. If you’re taking actions in response to the threat of PvP, regardless if an encounter actually occurs you are still involved in PvP. Because you’re playing a PvP game. If you could get CCP to isolate you in a private system and ensure no interlopers, and you weren’t able to buy or sell anything to or from the main market then you could consider yourself playing pure PvE. The argument is silly anyway. But those are the facts. ---
**Author:** ![Remiel\_Pollard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/remiel_pollard/32/242272_2.png) [@Remiel\_Pollard](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Remiel_Pollard)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2018, 3:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wardec-mechanics-to-eliminate-players/57890/366 "2018-02-22T03:05:50Z")
Also, people keep dismissing the fact that the isk, loot, and minerals you generate out there on your own, all go into the shared economy. This is competition. You are improving your economic standing against other players while decreasing theirs by proxy of decreasing the value of all the stuff you’re generating, just by virtue of generating it. Eventually, you’re going to put this stuff on the market, and buy stuff that other players have generated/made for use yourself. Just because one is doing this unopposed doesn’t mean it’s not PVP. At the end of the day, the game was designed as a PVP one, from the ground up. The economy revolves around ship destruction. You might think you’re doing PVE when you go mining, but your mining would be for absolutely nothing if ships weren’t being destroyed, as would your missioning and the loot and isk you generate, etc. ---
**Author:** ![Awesome\_Possum](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/awesome_possum/32/54051_2.png) [@Awesome\_Possum](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Awesome_Possum)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2018, 3:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wardec-mechanics-to-eliminate-players/57890/367 "2018-02-22T03:06:23Z")
> [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#): > > > [@Awesome\_Possum](#): > > > > may wanna look me up on eve search pumpkin > > Don’t care about your character other than the fact that you can’t say how buying items from the LP Store is PvP. you called me an alt. how is buying items from the LP store NOT pvp? the whole point of LP farming is to take those items and turn them into isk on the market. tell me you never sell LP items and everything you get with them is used strictly for pve, i want to giggle. ---
**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2018, 6:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wardec-mechanics-to-eliminate-players/57890/368 "2018-02-22T18:34:41Z")
Even if war dec is removed nothing changes, not one bit. Clearly what is needed is a massive suicide gank fest in hi sec to put some minds right. Some of these people seem to think they are entitled to safety 😮 ---
**Author:** ![Hiasa\_Kite](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hiasa_kite/32/11603_2.png) [@Hiasa\_Kite](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hiasa_Kite)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2018, 6:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wardec-mechanics-to-eliminate-players/57890/369 "2018-02-22T18:57:30Z")
The nerve! ---
**Author:** ![Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mevatla_vekraspek/32/377519_2.png) [@Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mevatla_Vekraspek)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 9:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wardec-mechanics-to-eliminate-players/57890/370 "2018-02-27T09:27:14Z")
Learn to play. ---
**Author:** ![Saeger1737](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/saeger1737/32/459629_2.png) [@Saeger1737](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Saeger1737)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 1:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wardec-mechanics-to-eliminate-players/57890/371 "2018-02-27T13:54:09Z")
The op is right wardecs do eliminate player’s ships their stuff and should continue to do so, so we have a great market to buy and sell from ---
**Author:** ![Rhalina\_Sedai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rhalina_sedai/32/57980_2.png) [@Rhalina\_Sedai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rhalina_Sedai)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 1:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wardec-mechanics-to-eliminate-players/57890/372 "2018-02-27T13:56:50Z")
The old high-sec mechanics of supers being flown and built? count me in. ---
**Author:** ![Gadget\_Helmsdottir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gadget_helmsdottir/32/374037_2.png) [@Gadget\_Helmsdottir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gadget_Helmsdottir)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 2:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wardec-mechanics-to-eliminate-players/57890/373 "2018-02-27T14:04:30Z")
> [@Rhalina\_Sedai](#): > > The old high-sec mechanics of supers being flown and built? count me in. Yay… NPC corp Rorquals vacuuming up HS as well… No thanks. 😑 –Rock Smiting Gadget ---
**Author:** ![Lady\_Ayeipsia](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lady_ayeipsia/32/23528_2.png) [@Lady\_Ayeipsia](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lady_Ayeipsia)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 3:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wardec-mechanics-to-eliminate-players/57890/374 "2018-02-27T15:22:08Z")
> [@Gadget\_Helmsdottir](#): > > Yay… > > NPC corp Rorquals vacuuming up HS as well… > > No thanks. 😑 > > –Rock Smiting Gadget I don’t know… Just to see a Rorq get killed by FOB rats… Could be worth the tears. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 3:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wardec-mechanics-to-eliminate-players/57890/375 "2018-02-27T15:34:09Z")
I saw [something](https://imperium.news/shall-we-play-a-game-emergent-ai-results-all-in-npc-fight/) the other day about FOB rats attacking NPC miners, turning into a slugfest between the Amarr Navy and the FOB rats until the drifters turned up; at which point they both turned on the drifters, beat the snot out of them and then went back to shooting each other in the face. [So it begins.](https://i.imgur.com/WJx7qII.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Gadget\_Helmsdottir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gadget_helmsdottir/32/374037_2.png) [@Gadget\_Helmsdottir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gadget_Helmsdottir)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 3:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wardec-mechanics-to-eliminate-players/57890/376 "2018-02-27T15:44:19Z")
> It seemed the Amarrian forces were prepared to let their miners die rather than lose their combat ships. Perhaps this decision was made because the value of the highsec ore being gathered was not sufficient to warrant a large-scale commitment of forces. –Gadget picks herself from the floor after laughing too hard ---
**Author:** ![Remiel\_Pollard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/remiel_pollard/32/242272_2.png) [@Remiel\_Pollard](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Remiel_Pollard)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2018, 7:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wardec-mechanics-to-eliminate-players/57890/377 "2018-02-28T07:20:54Z")
“It remains to be seen if NPCs will develop the ability to smack talk in local…” Let’s hope they’re smarter than the NPCs in Elite then. I fought an NPC Anaconda this morning that was yelling “prepare for your doom!” or some such at me just as I cracked the last few percent of hull on him. They were his last words. ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2018, 10:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wardec-mechanics-to-eliminate-players/57890/378 "2018-02-28T10:23:04Z")
NPCs smack-talk in various missions/sites already. ---
**Author:** ![Remiel\_Pollard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/remiel_pollard/32/242272_2.png) [@Remiel\_Pollard](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Remiel_Pollard)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2018, 11:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wardec-mechanics-to-eliminate-players/57890/379 "2018-02-28T11:13:11Z")
Yeah but it’s all scripted, not dynamic. So is Elite tbh, but at least the script is longer. ---
**Author:** ![Dark\_Engraver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dark_engraver/32/45178_2.png) [@Dark\_Engraver](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dark_Engraver)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2018, 1:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wardec-mechanics-to-eliminate-players/57890/380 "2018-02-28T13:10:28Z")
I got smacktalk from Krull once AFTER he instapoped. ---
**Author:** ![Remiel\_Pollard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/remiel_pollard/32/242272_2.png) [@Remiel\_Pollard](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Remiel_Pollard)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2018, 1:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wardec-mechanics-to-eliminate-players/57890/381 "2018-02-28T13:45:42Z")
I don’t know what a Krull is. Sounds like some PVE nonsense. On the other hand, I get told to ‘git gud’ from people I’ve just killed quite often. Real people, in PVP. It’s hilarious. “Come to nul sec and I’ll show you how it’s done with my huge blob of people I pretend are my real friends!” I just let them vent while I loot their oft fail-fit wrecks. ---
**Author:** ![LulKlz\_Duster](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lulklz_duster/32/129692_2.png) [@LulKlz\_Duster](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/LulKlz_Duster)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2018, 2:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wardec-mechanics-to-eliminate-players/57890/382 "2018-02-28T14:23:03Z")
Go live in Null. Every wardec I’ve been a part of is from trade hub gankers so just stay away from the hubs and you will be ok. ---
**Author:** ![Dora\_SiPetualang](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dora_sipetualang/32/52316_2.png) [@Dora\_SiPetualang](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dora_SiPetualang)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2018, 1:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wardec-mechanics-to-eliminate-players/57890/383 "2018-03-08T13:43:04Z")
> [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#): > > > [@Dora\_SiPetualang](#): > > > > I agree with OP … today mechanics make it harder to build a new corps from the ground up because any corps can wardec them and destroy their dream for the future. > > This has been the case since 2003, the current wardec mechanics have been watered down so far, when compared to those in the past, that most mercs are reduced to hub humping. > > As for destroying dreams… > > ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/3/2/32523685cde286ddcfab65163a98478482f80f74.jpg) > Working as intended. work as intended … great … no complain then, lets destroy other dreams 😉 ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2018, 1:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wardec-mechanics-to-eliminate-players/57890/384 "2018-06-06T13:43:13Z")
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