# Wars and hopping Corps/Accounts etc... Issue: Avoiding the 14 Days rules after loosing WarHQ **URL:** \ **Category:** Assembly Hall\ **Tags:** bug-reporting, high-sec, pvp\ **Created:** [February 2, 2026, 12:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wars-and-hopping-corps-accounts-etc-issue-avoiding-the-14-days-rules-after-loosing-warhq/505925 "2026-02-02T00:38:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Kane\_Carnifex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kane_carnifex/32/474576_2.png) [@Kane\_Carnifex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kane_Carnifex)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2026, 12:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wars-and-hopping-corps-accounts-etc-issue-avoiding-the-14-days-rules-after-loosing-warhq/505925/1 "2026-02-02T00:38:12Z")
Brave currently burns one War HQ after another, but something strange is in this neighbourhood. For me this isn´t an issue, out of Corp Chars, Hauling Service, bla bla bla. But since we ping fleets for this and raiding my german soul is itching like Let me point out some very ODD stuff here: ### **Major** - There are Corps/players joining the Aggressive part during the war at the last minute as support. Not as allys they switch-swapping with their whole corp. - Leaving the Alliance to avoid the 14 days time to declare war against the same target. That’s some of the stuff I learned during the time Brave is burning war HQs. There is probably more but people already upset bringing this topic up again and again. No worries.. Here I am.. i will keep this alive until we all happy. ### **Minor depending how we solve above:** - They only have a single Structure online which doesn’t reflect any Risk vs. Reward schematic we usually have in EVE. _I don´t think there is any good aspect, i don´t want to take the option from 10 Man Highsec corp to try out a war against Goons, Frat or Init… You can´t give it a pricetag they can´t pay._ \*But 10 man won´t be able to defend against it.. so they have like 3 Days of war.. than 14 days break… \* _If they like it they can join_ **This my request to bring this up in the CSM Talk and find another solution for this mechanics.** ### Main solution which would probably make a lot of people happy. If an Alliance loses their WAR HQ all Members are **flagged** and can’t declare war against this entity for another 14 Days. - You can’t join any Alliance Corp as a player which has an active war against the same entity you already lost your HQ. - You can´t create a new Corp/Alliance to declare war against the same entity as long as any members are already flagged for losing the WAR HQ against this entity. ### tl:dr if you lose your war HQ, there is no way you can participate for 14 days against this entity. This also prevents Corp/Alliance hopping. Also it doesn´t break their playstyle since they NOW need to actually defend their WAR HQ if they want to continue the WAR. ### Perspective for Wardeccers: You are not greedy and declare war against single Alliance, like Goons. You lose your HQ, you need to wait 14 Days. So you declare war against INIT. You lose your HQ, you need to wait 14 Days. So you declare war against Frat. You lose your HQ, you need to wait 14 Days. Every Wardec is approx 2-3 Days depending on the defender destroying the Astrahus. So they either start properly defending or target Alliance one by one. Otherwise they will have 14 days of waiting time.. then they can declar War against all Nullsec Alliances again. If you disagree please keep in mind which we want to have a risk vs rewards system which is fair to everybody. By fair it means if you attack an whole “empire” you need to expect heavy punch and you can´t just duck away. Also this what i have found in this forum: > [@Wardecmechanics](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wardecmechanics/499280): > > Hi there, regulary there is a cooldown, between wars like 2 Weeks or so. But it seems, that players found a way to abuse game mechanics, by creating a new corp, or alliance, and swith to them. We have now since 4 Weeks war, against the same guys, In total we would have like 8 Weeks of peace. But no we dont have it. Any Chance, the CSM, take care, i wrote already a ticket to CCP. But they say, CSM has to take care about that. > [@Please close war dec alliance/corp hopping loophole](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-close-war-dec-alliance-corp-hopping-loophole/491478/2): > > I agree with Zydhek here in order to get around the wardec’s and those people camping at Jita and other trade hubs. I have had to use alts that are outside of the corp who are not war eligible to move things to trade hubs. This is a real pain in the neck. They seem to be using a loop hole that allows them to corp jump from one alliance to another and start a new wardec straight away. I also seen that they are wardeccing 100-200 alliances or more at the same time just to get these kills at Ji… ---
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2026, 2:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wars-and-hopping-corps-accounts-etc-issue-avoiding-the-14-days-rules-after-loosing-warhq/505925/2 "2026-02-02T02:15:08Z")
if EVE Uni talking directly to CCP isn’t going to fix things, how is the CSM?? ---
**Author:** ![Kane\_Carnifex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kane_carnifex/32/474576_2.png) [@Kane\_Carnifex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kane_Carnifex)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2026, 3:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wars-and-hopping-corps-accounts-etc-issue-avoiding-the-14-days-rules-after-loosing-warhq/505925/3 "2026-02-02T03:00:33Z")
Hmm, this is a very good question. Didn´t knew there was already direct exchange between EVE Uni and CCP about it. Can only do assumptions about it. Do we have some records what was addressed by EVE UNI ? But probably exactly the above loophole… The only thing i got told is which it works as intended with the Corp Loophole. But this also i got told… ☹ Puh… would love if CSM can look again in this issue. Or maybe its already on a very long list of changes which are upcomming on Fanfest 2026. ---
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2026, 3:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wars-and-hopping-corps-accounts-etc-issue-avoiding-the-14-days-rules-after-loosing-warhq/505925/4 "2026-02-02T03:03:09Z")
in one of the topics above, a EVE Uni member mentions they been in direct contact with CCP about it last year. ---
**Author:** ![Kane\_Carnifex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kane_carnifex/32/474576_2.png) [@Kane\_Carnifex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kane_Carnifex)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2026, 3:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wars-and-hopping-corps-accounts-etc-issue-avoiding-the-14-days-rules-after-loosing-warhq/505925/5 "2026-02-02T03:37:53Z")
Ok, looks like i need to read them then. Sorry its 4 o´clock here should head to bed… That one is on me. ---
**Author:** ![Kshal\_Aideron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kshal_aideron/32/390152_2.png) [@Kshal\_Aideron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kshal_Aideron)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2026, 3:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wars-and-hopping-corps-accounts-etc-issue-avoiding-the-14-days-rules-after-loosing-warhq/505925/6 "2026-02-02T15:41:59Z")
This was brought up to CCP several times during the CSM summit last week and I feel like they’re grasping not only the issue but why it’s a problem for high sec in general. But, if you’re going to be at Fanfest, by all means bring it up again. ---
**Author:** ![YankeePilot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yankeepilot/32/408902_2.png) [@YankeePilot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/YankeePilot)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2026, 3:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wars-and-hopping-corps-accounts-etc-issue-avoiding-the-14-days-rules-after-loosing-warhq/505925/7 "2026-02-03T15:14:39Z")
Food for thought, from a newbie to these war mechanics: When an entity declares war an another and that war ends, they get a 2-week timer (This exists already as I understand). When that same entity declares war a second time and that war ends, the timer increases another 2 weeks to 4 weeks. So on and so forth. Alternatively, or in addition to, the price of the war also increases, doubling each time. When an entity declares war on another entity that only has high sec structures, that timing penalty doubles. (ie: instead of 2 week increments, do 4 weeks). When a new corporation or alliance is created, it cannot declare war against a high sec-only entity for a period of 2 months. I’d also do something like, the price of maintaining a war increases each week. This way, it encourages people declaring wars to “sh\*t or get off the pot”. These endless high sec wars would be less tempting to maintain if the cost was 100mil → 200mil → 300mil → 400mil → 500mil, etc etc. Just throwing ideas out there. ---
**Author:** ![Kane\_Carnifex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kane_carnifex/32/474576_2.png) [@Kane\_Carnifex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kane_Carnifex)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2026, 3:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wars-and-hopping-corps-accounts-etc-issue-avoiding-the-14-days-rules-after-loosing-warhq/505925/8 "2026-02-03T15:40:13Z")
Make it a Carthago delenda est [Carthago delenda est - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carthago_delenda_est) Unitil is solved. If there is no solution insight before Fanfest i will be there. And trust me germany is in my blood, in my soul, in my heart. I will stand up for it … even if it is not the biggest problem in eve. I am still waiting for voice/video lined missions. Left for dead, cinematic EVENTS with players… not just some CCP dreads shooting something in “one single” System.. I am offtrifting for the main topic. # [Wardecmechanics](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wardecmechanics/499280) Sumup: Points out which if you flag them by Database, they can´t ship around the “cooldown” timer. Hits the nail with the Hammer Thread closed. October 2025 # [Please close war dec alliance/corp hopping loophole](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-close-war-dec-alliance-corp-hopping-loophole/491478) That one got mentioned to me regarding directly talking between EVE Uni and CCP. …after losing a war dec by hopping to a different corp or alliance, they are perpetuating constant wars …Yes the CEO and the leadership have been talking to the dev’s about this problem. → No Information what was talked about. EVE UNI made a holding corp, which is a Solution. Members can use the Structures freely in Highsec. > [@Please close war dec alliance/corp hopping loophole](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-close-war-dec-alliance-corp-hopping-loophole/491478/14): > > How are you planning to close the loophole? As far as I can see there’s no way to truly close it. Even if ‘corp hopping’ is deleted people could simply have multiple characters, each in another version of the main war dec corp and cycle between characters as the others are on war cooldown. No, the best way to avoid war declarations is: put no structures up with your group so you can be war immune, live away from trade hubs where these war dec players hang out, or move out of HS, which makes… Thats a very good point you could bypass the loophole with ALTS and ALTS Corp. This still means you need to omega a lot of Accounts and skill them into the right ship. (Money will always be in the Favor of CCP) The rest of the Thread is spam and not holding any good information to solve the problem. There just fighing about if eve is pvp or not. ---
**Author:** ![Kane\_Carnifex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kane_carnifex/32/474576_2.png) [@Kane\_Carnifex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kane_Carnifex)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2026, 3:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wars-and-hopping-corps-accounts-etc-issue-avoiding-the-14-days-rules-after-loosing-warhq/505925/9 "2026-02-03T15:43:17Z")
War feeds war, and a price increase for this pure porpuse sounds also as an option. Just need to find a sweet spot where it would be nice to have it so fance to make an rest of X Weeks/Month. Like if you go for 4 Weeks, and than you stop. You also have X weeks which you can´t reanage. Same if you loose your War HQ. Standard is 14 Days. But if the war was for 1 Month you can´t reange for X Weeks Month. Noted, open for disscussion. ---
**Author:** ![Kane\_Carnifex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kane_carnifex/32/474576_2.png) [@Kane\_Carnifex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kane_Carnifex)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2026, 9:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wars-and-hopping-corps-accounts-etc-issue-avoiding-the-14-days-rules-after-loosing-warhq/505925/10 "2026-02-21T21:14:03Z")
You could also rework how wardecc works completely and including a solution for ganking. **Game mechanic** wise it is ok to rebuy security with TAGs → ISK. **Lore** wise this should only be possible in a certain amount after this you would need to pay more to concord otherwise Conncord becomes part of shady buissness which would lead to interaction by the 4 Major Factions. So if you gonna rework it than i would consider this aswell to fight back Criminals. **Gamelore is writing itself if you give it some love.** Take this stick… and make it a tree. ---
**Author:** ![Kane\_Carnifex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kane_carnifex/32/474576_2.png) [@Kane\_Carnifex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kane_Carnifex)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2026, 12:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wars-and-hopping-corps-accounts-etc-issue-avoiding-the-14-days-rules-after-loosing-warhq/505925/11 "2026-04-07T12:02:24Z")
So there is some bigger long play going on. But in the meantime I would recommend to have a minor fix for this. Wardeccers swap around avoiding the given timers of the mechanics. Bigger Alliances create unwardeccable Alliances to provide safe harbour for their players. If attacked they simple respond with their full force. Currently the Risk vs. Reward is not balanced for neither of the party. ---
**Author:** ![Kane\_Carnifex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kane_carnifex/32/474576_2.png) [@Kane\_Carnifex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kane_Carnifex)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2026, 1:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wars-and-hopping-corps-accounts-etc-issue-avoiding-the-14-days-rules-after-loosing-warhq/505925/12 "2026-05-01T01:28:46Z")
I am still for blocking the Corp Swap if you lost a war with the Cooldown. Until you have a better RISK Vs. Reward idea or solution. Thank you very much. ---
**Author:** ![Kane\_Carnifex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kane_carnifex/32/474576_2.png) [@Kane\_Carnifex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kane_Carnifex)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2026, 8:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wars-and-hopping-corps-accounts-etc-issue-avoiding-the-14-days-rules-after-loosing-warhq/505925/13 "2026-06-21T20:29:58Z")
Looking for the Big Update, or the little adjustment. ---
**Author:** ![Kane\_Carnifex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kane_carnifex/32/474576_2.png) [@Kane\_Carnifex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kane_Carnifex)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2026, 10:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wars-and-hopping-corps-accounts-etc-issue-avoiding-the-14-days-rules-after-loosing-warhq/505925/14 "2026-07-17T10:50:14Z")
I still got told which CSM is on HOLD on this as CCP said they working on it. How long do you want to sit that out, you want a new player experience but you don´t want it? ---
**Author:** ![Kane\_Carnifex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kane_carnifex/32/474576_2.png) [@Kane\_Carnifex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kane_Carnifex)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2026, 4:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wars-and-hopping-corps-accounts-etc-issue-avoiding-the-14-days-rules-after-loosing-warhq/505925/15 "2026-08-14T16:06:04Z")
[![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/5/b/d/5bd49ac717960a283ddc3a4f53a6fedfe28264f0.jpeg "War Declaration Needs To Change - EVE Rookies Interview w/ EVE Rookies Kshal Aideron") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G39m-XyiKys) Are we running in circles 😛 @Kshal_Aideron ---
**Author:** ![Kshal\_Aideron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kshal_aideron/32/390152_2.png) [@Kshal\_Aideron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kshal_Aideron)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2026, 4:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wars-and-hopping-corps-accounts-etc-issue-avoiding-the-14-days-rules-after-loosing-warhq/505925/16 "2026-08-14T16:11:51Z")
I don’t think there’s any other way. LOL ---
**Author:** ![Kane\_Carnifex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kane_carnifex/32/474576_2.png) [@Kane\_Carnifex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kane_Carnifex)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2026, 8:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wars-and-hopping-corps-accounts-etc-issue-avoiding-the-14-days-rules-after-loosing-warhq/505925/17 "2026-09-24T08:23:55Z")
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