# Was I killed in High-Sec by a player using propagation software?

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/was-i-killed-in-high-sec-by-a-player-using-propagation-software/443909>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Tags:** high-sec\
**Created:** [March 23, 2024, 2:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/was-i-killed-in-high-sec-by-a-player-using-propagation-software/443909 "2024-03-23T14:24:52Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Wrathful\_Hawk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wrathful_hawk/32/415455_2.png) [@Wrathful\_Hawk](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wrathful_Hawk)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2024, 7:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/was-i-killed-in-high-sec-by-a-player-using-propagation-software/443909/67 "2024-03-23T19:29:28Z")

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Sorry for your bowhead loss there mate

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**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2024, 7:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/was-i-killed-in-high-sec-by-a-player-using-propagation-software/443909/68 "2024-03-23T19:35:11Z")

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> [@New\_Order\_Enforcer](#):
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> dont forget the tags

My understanding is the amount of security lost is related to the relative value of what’s destroyed…though I’ve never shot at ship worth 12bn ISK so I’d like to know what the loss is. But yes, if all 21 alts need tags then one can add another 800m ISK to the ganker’s losses.

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2024, 7:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/was-i-killed-in-high-sec-by-a-player-using-propagation-software/443909/69 "2024-03-23T19:47:36Z")

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> [@Wrathful\_Hawk](#):
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> Sorry for your bowhead loss

[![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/8/2/1/8213115d3238feafc07e7ec4ae77f403620500cf.gif) ](https://64.media.tumblr.com/432e2301206baed259cf25ab391572f9/tumblr_n9prltZuAm1rb1i9do1_500.gif)  
The **F1 monkey** is not as innocent as she would like them to think.

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/c/9/4/c946ecbbdf83175bd35ac1035facc7ba23ef55e6.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2024, 8:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/was-i-killed-in-high-sec-by-a-player-using-propagation-software/443909/70 "2024-03-23T20:54:07Z")

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Failed war deccer forum warfare is indeed hard hitting, snigger…

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**Author:** ![an675](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/an675/32/399327_2.png) [@an675](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/an675)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2024, 9:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/was-i-killed-in-high-sec-by-a-player-using-propagation-software/443909/71 "2024-03-23T21:43:42Z")

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> [@New\_Order\_Enforcer](#):
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> They were 21 alphas, you should contact CCP asap. We must end this carnage in highsec.

How were they alphas when they were using “Mega Pulse Laser II” which are Omega only?

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**Author:** ![Aisha\_Katalen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aisha_katalen/32/387724_2.png) [@Aisha\_Katalen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aisha_Katalen)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2024, 9:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/was-i-killed-in-high-sec-by-a-player-using-propagation-software/443909/72 "2024-03-23T21:48:14Z")

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Why are you feeding obvious bait.

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**Author:** ![an675](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/an675/32/399327_2.png) [@an675](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/an675)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2024, 9:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/was-i-killed-in-high-sec-by-a-player-using-propagation-software/443909/73 "2024-03-23T21:50:43Z")

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Sometimes its difficult to tell the difference between trolling and someone that actually believes these things, there seem to be plenty of both.

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2024, 10:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/was-i-killed-in-high-sec-by-a-player-using-propagation-software/443909/74 "2024-03-23T22:04:32Z")

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> [@an675](#):
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> Sometimes its difficult to tell the difference

No it isn’t.

**Goons** are just not that bright.

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**Author:** ![Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sasha_nemtsov/32/393707_2.png) [@Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sasha_Nemtsov)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2024, 10:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/was-i-killed-in-high-sec-by-a-player-using-propagation-software/443909/75 "2024-03-23T22:25:19Z")

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> [@an675](#):
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> How were they alphas when they were using “Mega Pulse Laser II” which are Omega only?

> [@Aisha\_Katalen](#):
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> Why are you feeding obvious bait.

Alas, @an675, you fell foul of two avoidable errors.

1 - You believed what you wished to believe, rather than what was evident.  
2 - @New_Order_Enforcer is a well-known ~~scallywag~~ elite PvPer, with a long history of goading the gullible.

The ‘New Order’ was the organisation created by James 315 back in the day; a highly successful entrepreneurial Highsec ganking and mischief-making startup, whose influence can still be felt today.

You can be forgiven for not knowing about that, though.

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2024, 10:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/was-i-killed-in-high-sec-by-a-player-using-propagation-software/443909/76 "2024-03-23T22:26:36Z")

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> [@Sasha\_Nemtsov](#):
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> The ‘New Order’ was the organisation created by James 315 back in the day

As I said

> [@Zaera\_Keena](#):
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> **Goons** are just not that bright.

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**Author:** ![Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sasha_nemtsov/32/393707_2.png) [@Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sasha_Nemtsov)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2024, 11:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/was-i-killed-in-high-sec-by-a-player-using-propagation-software/443909/77 "2024-03-23T23:03:23Z")

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> [@Zaera\_Keena](#):
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> **Goons** are just not that bright.

Well, _some_ Goons. James was a Goon for a while, before seeking sustenance elsewhere (Highsec). But perhaps he was just _too bright_ for them!

It’s difficult when folk haven’t ‘lived’ the history - and they can’t really be blamed for that. I joined for a few weeks, but found it oppressive and frat’-like. Sort of National Lampoon’s Animal House. It’s probably very professional and mature nowadays.

I had to check an675’s character, before realising what you meant. I’m losing it, you know…

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2024, 11:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/was-i-killed-in-high-sec-by-a-player-using-propagation-software/443909/78 "2024-03-23T23:07:18Z")

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Goonswarm is the newbro feeder guild for my alliance. They are mostly plebs, but every now and again a good one completes training, and qualifies to join us.

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**Author:** ![Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sasha_nemtsov/32/393707_2.png) [@Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sasha_Nemtsov)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2024, 11:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/was-i-killed-in-high-sec-by-a-player-using-propagation-software/443909/79 "2024-03-23T23:14:40Z")

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> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#):
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> They are mostly plebs, but every now and again a good one completes training

I nearly choked on my night-time meds! 😆

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**Author:** ![Tiara\_Nalelmir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tiara_nalelmir/32/415426_2.png) [@Tiara\_Nalelmir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tiara_Nalelmir)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2024, 3:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/was-i-killed-in-high-sec-by-a-player-using-propagation-software/443909/80 "2024-03-24T03:55:37Z")

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Well it is what it is. Have a good day bud!

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**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2024, 7:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/was-i-killed-in-high-sec-by-a-player-using-propagation-software/443909/81 "2024-03-24T07:56:00Z")

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Sorry for you loss , next time try the twitch channel Uedamascout, . The guy covers most gank hot spots around the pipes .

Also there are in-game channels to join ,that report gankers fleet movement’s, this will have spy’s in so take care what you ask .

Remember these guys don’t just sub accounts for ganking , they probably have large mining fleets or other activities make vast amounts of isk which fund his ganking.

> [@Zaera\_Keena](#):
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> I see a ban on the horizon with my crystal ball

Your a bit spikes, are you ok .

I might check out the Bandit Princess blog , sure to have a different spin on the story

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**Author:** ![Natrium\_Cap](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/natrium_cap/32/415860_2.png) [@Natrium\_Cap](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Natrium_Cap)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2024, 2:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/was-i-killed-in-high-sec-by-a-player-using-propagation-software/443909/83 "2024-03-27T14:15:28Z")

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You are trying so hard to prove that there is no automation program, do you provide calculations on how and what should be configured if it is a multibox?  
Yes, you get yourself 21 accounts, pay for them and pour your consciousness into T2 spikes and go ahead and destroy at least someone with your hands! without a program)) and on YouTube… then you are SUPER

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**Author:** ![Natrium\_Cap](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/natrium_cap/32/415860_2.png) [@Natrium\_Cap](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Natrium_Cap)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2024, 2:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/was-i-killed-in-high-sec-by-a-player-using-propagation-software/443909/84 "2024-03-27T14:24:07Z")

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You’re wasting your time and energy on local hooligans and slackers on multiboxes) they probably don’t even know how to install implants for expanding consciousness… they have one button in the game for everything)

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**Author:** ![Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sasha_nemtsov/32/393707_2.png) [@Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sasha_Nemtsov)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2024, 2:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/was-i-killed-in-high-sec-by-a-player-using-propagation-software/443909/85 "2024-03-27T14:34:01Z")

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Why so salty?

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**Author:** ![Natrium\_Cap](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/natrium_cap/32/415860_2.png) [@Natrium\_Cap](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Natrium_Cap)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2024, 2:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/was-i-killed-in-high-sec-by-a-player-using-propagation-software/443909/86 "2024-03-27T14:50:39Z")

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He doesn’t pay $420 a month, the monthly loot from a ganker exceeds the payment for 21 accounts, and buying cans of sp for a new gunner farm is quite enough. Everything is simple if someone needs it. Killing is normal in the game) but automation… is not good.

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**Author:** ![Natrium\_Cap](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/natrium_cap/32/415860_2.png) [@Natrium\_Cap](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Natrium_Cap)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2024, 2:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/was-i-killed-in-high-sec-by-a-player-using-propagation-software/443909/87 "2024-03-27T14:55:14Z")

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do you think your opinion is interesting? I think you won’t understand) I’ll answer in your post  
Sasha Nemtsov= Destroyed Ships 37.  
Sasha Nemtsov= 2 years 3 months.  
Sasha Nemtsov=Who are you, miracle?

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