# Was I killed in High-Sec by a player using propagation software? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Tags:** high-sec\ **Created:** [March 23, 2024, 2:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/was-i-killed-in-high-sec-by-a-player-using-propagation-software/443909 "2024-03-23T14:24:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Galaxy\_Pig](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/galaxy_pig/32/374625_2.png) [@Galaxy\_Pig](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Galaxy_Pig)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2024, 4:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/was-i-killed-in-high-sec-by-a-player-using-propagation-software/443909/111 "2024-03-31T16:54:56Z")
JESUS what is that?!? ---
**Author:** ![Bladewise](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bladewise/32/394387_2.png) [@Bladewise](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bladewise)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2024, 4:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/was-i-killed-in-high-sec-by-a-player-using-propagation-software/443909/112 "2024-03-31T16:58:47Z")
I used to play with Hawk a lot. He doesn’t cheat. Neither does Kusion. They both do what has been already mentioned in the thread and stack their windows with guns OH and mods active. ---
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2024, 5:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/was-i-killed-in-high-sec-by-a-player-using-propagation-software/443909/113 "2024-03-31T17:22:49Z")
Cousin of yours? ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2024, 6:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/was-i-killed-in-high-sec-by-a-player-using-propagation-software/443909/114 "2024-03-31T18:07:02Z")
Actually it is an old pic of @Galaxy_Pig. Getting blown up several hunderd times in his **ibis** though made a mess of his looks , transforming him into this: ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/e/e/a/eea851f5c8832bfffdb27eee67feffc9e7472910.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Permit\_Mining\_Officer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/permit_mining_officer/32/391918_2.png) [@Permit\_Mining\_Officer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Permit_Mining_Officer)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2024, 4:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/was-i-killed-in-high-sec-by-a-player-using-propagation-software/443909/115 "2024-04-01T04:35:05Z")
Weird i have been flying quite a lot with my bowhead even had ships in it with over 4 bill gears and ive never been bumped or targeted :). maybe that is because my ships is so fast with my fit its no use 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2024, 7:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/was-i-killed-in-high-sec-by-a-player-using-propagation-software/443909/116 "2024-04-06T19:45:24Z")
Ah, you must fit your bowhead like this then. The secret is fitting lots of Expanded Cargoholds and Cargohold Optimizers. Best to fit purple mods in the midslots though as this really helps > **[Bowhead | Tarrina Degar | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/116752929/)** > > Tarrina Degar (Havens Gate) lost their Bowhead in Gheth (Devoid). Final Blow by 2 Of Several (Several Bodies One Master) flying in a Talos. Total Value: 5,755,752,342.43 ISK ---
**Author:** ![Aisha\_Katalen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aisha_katalen/32/387724_2.png) [@Aisha\_Katalen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aisha_Katalen)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2024, 8:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/was-i-killed-in-high-sec-by-a-player-using-propagation-software/443909/117 "2024-04-06T20:59:37Z")
Those damn gankers, won’t they think of the… (checks notes): 15 year old characters! Ganking should be stopped to save the newbies lazy fat vets! ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2024, 9:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/was-i-killed-in-high-sec-by-a-player-using-propagation-software/443909/118 "2024-04-06T21:14:14Z")
Not necessarily a **fat vet** , as credit **card warrior newbies** can skill inject, buy a frieghter and fill it with billions worth of goodies then fly to **Uedema** for the amusement of the **Pirate Princess** ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2024, 9:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/was-i-killed-in-high-sec-by-a-player-using-propagation-software/443909/119 "2024-04-06T21:18:23Z")
It would have lived if it was fitted with… > **[ORE Expanded Cargohold - EVE Online Reference](https://everef.net/type/34489)** > > Increases cargo hold capacity at the expense of maximum velocity and hull strength. This is why you never go cheap, go cheap and you get killed. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2024, 9:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/was-i-killed-in-high-sec-by-a-player-using-propagation-software/443909/120 "2024-04-06T21:23:41Z")
Indeed, as will driving your ferrari on cheap bald budget tyres. ---
**Author:** ![Raul\_Endymione](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/raul_endymione/32/415202_2.png) [@Raul\_Endymione](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Raul_Endymione)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2024, 8:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/was-i-killed-in-high-sec-by-a-player-using-propagation-software/443909/121 "2024-04-07T08:32:29Z")
Of course there is no 3rd party software to sync 10+ Catalysts with millisecond delay. CCP will never alllow such a things. It’s just god-like sleight of hand. And superhuman precision of alt-tab. ---
**Author:** ![Io\_Koval](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/io_koval/32/282426_2.png) [@Io\_Koval](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Io_Koval)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2024, 8:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/was-i-killed-in-high-sec-by-a-player-using-propagation-software/443909/122 "2024-04-07T08:54:31Z")
I keep trying to figure out how you make replies this bad. This is day 2. I can only imagine it is a combination of deliberate ignorance and social inexperience, which lets you to live in an artificial reality that fits your preconceived opinions. (Hint: there’s literally evidence how it’s done upthread, in video form) ---
**Author:** ![Raul\_Endymione](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/raul_endymione/32/415202_2.png) [@Raul\_Endymione](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Raul_Endymione)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2024, 9:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/was-i-killed-in-high-sec-by-a-player-using-propagation-software/443909/123 "2024-04-07T09:05:42Z")
Thank you for sharing your opinion about my person. Again. ---
**Author:** ![New\_Order\_Enforcer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/new_order_enforcer/32/387867_2.png) [@New\_Order\_Enforcer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/New_Order_Enforcer)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2024, 9:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/was-i-killed-in-high-sec-by-a-player-using-propagation-software/443909/124 "2024-04-07T09:30:41Z")
The ganking bots are out there. Lurking in the space. You are defenceless. ---
**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/510263_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2024, 11:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/was-i-killed-in-high-sec-by-a-player-using-propagation-software/443909/125 "2024-04-07T11:05:31Z")
Resistance is futile? 🐙 ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2024, 12:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/was-i-killed-in-high-sec-by-a-player-using-propagation-software/443909/126 "2024-04-07T12:05:40Z")
@Raul_Endymione has been a **bot** since 2012. ---
**Author:** ![Eloken\_Toralen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eloken_toralen/32/401714_2.png) [@Eloken\_Toralen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eloken_Toralen)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2024, 1:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/was-i-killed-in-high-sec-by-a-player-using-propagation-software/443909/127 "2024-04-07T13:12:12Z")
> [@Aisha\_Katalen](#): > > If he used software to give all his clients the same command at the same time then pretty much all of his ships would have done the same damage, especially since he’s using Oracles with 20km optimal so there is little chance of damage variance due to falloff rng. Incorrect. Some oracles will be shooting at shield, some armor, some hull. Its not like the old days of 100 drones assisted to one person calling down the rain, each ship is a different calculation in the server even if they all fire ‘at once’ or there about. > [@Aisha\_Katalen](#): > > It’s unlikely he uses input broadcasting. Evidence? Innocent until proven guilting, or guilty until proven innocent? It could be 20 computers with 20 keyboards and big long plank of wood with a pokey bit about the F1 key. Problem is CCP can make rules against input broadcasting, but if the rules can be circumvented with a $10 bit of wood its meaningless. > [@Aisha\_Katalen](#): > > He could use said software but somehow “bake in” a delay per client to try and throw off the scent but that’s is _highly_ unlikely. No it is not. just look up the average reaction time of a human and stick a Gaussian distribution based delay around that and job done. > [@Aisha\_Katalen](#): > > Assuming it’s even just one person which I don’t know. So this guy an 20 other people just decided to name all their pilots consecutively ? > [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > Oracle elsewhere…147m ISK…21 times that is almost 3bn ISK…so the gank lost them 2.75bn ISK. They only have to make more than they loose over time. > [@Syzygium](#): > > Given that an Oracle needs a few seconds to lock, he can surely activate 10+ clients before the first shots fire (automatically) all at the same tick then. Open 20 notepad windows and type the F key into each one. Takes more than a second, even with practice. > [@Io\_Koval](#): > > I believe there is a video of Jason Kusion that he self-published going “alt-tab, click” rapidly through a large amount of clients. There is also video of the queen giving a Christmas address that is %100 fake. If it smells like input broadcasting, tastes like input broadcasting, just call it such. Even if it is not, explain how one person with 20 clients is not in breach of the section of the EULA against actions that deliberately cause a negative impact on the server? > [@Tiara\_Nalelmir](#): > > Dont you agree? Yes but this forum is full of apologists for the worst aspects of EVE Online. > [@Tiara\_Nalelmir](#): > > I have no experience / knowledge on broadcasting software. Got a Mac? Run EvE. “Siri, push F1” Now get 20 Mac’s. Input broadcasting or legit gameplay? > [@Io\_Koval](#): > > You’re at a whopping 12,000 ISK per EHP. This is probably the most valuable lesson from this. Strip the fit of the Kronos, ship it separately. But hey, someone probably already mention that in the other 100 comments. ---
**Author:** ![Io\_Koval](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/io_koval/32/282426_2.png) [@Io\_Koval](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Io_Koval)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2024, 1:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/was-i-killed-in-high-sec-by-a-player-using-propagation-software/443909/128 "2024-04-07T13:14:11Z")
You have a wild imagination. Do you always let it power your faculties of reason? ---
**Author:** ![Eloken\_Toralen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eloken_toralen/32/401714_2.png) [@Eloken\_Toralen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eloken_Toralen)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2024, 1:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/was-i-killed-in-high-sec-by-a-player-using-propagation-software/443909/129 "2024-04-07T13:16:48Z")
People do things to ‘win’, even the most absurd stuff like shoving a beeper up their ass to win at chess. EVE people are not too far off that level of insanity. ---
**Author:** ![Io\_Koval](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/io_koval/32/282426_2.png) [@Io\_Koval](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Io_Koval)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2024, 1:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/was-i-killed-in-high-sec-by-a-player-using-propagation-software/443909/130 "2024-04-07T13:19:13Z")
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