# Was I killed in High-Sec by a player using propagation software? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Tags:** high-sec\ **Created:** [March 23, 2024, 2:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/was-i-killed-in-high-sec-by-a-player-using-propagation-software/443909 "2024-03-23T14:24:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Eloken\_Toralen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eloken_toralen/32/401714_2.png) [@Eloken\_Toralen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eloken_Toralen)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2024, 1:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/was-i-killed-in-high-sec-by-a-player-using-propagation-software/443909/131 "2024-04-07T13:22:20Z")
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**Author:** ![Io\_Koval](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/io_koval/32/282426_2.png) [@Io\_Koval](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Io_Koval)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2024, 1:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/was-i-killed-in-high-sec-by-a-player-using-propagation-software/443909/132 "2024-04-07T13:29:18Z")
Nice! In any case, there’s video evidence upthread (and more on YouTube) for people that want to see how it’s actually done. And otherwise folks share logs that corroborate it as well, when they want to dive into the minutiae of server ticks. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2024, 1:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/was-i-killed-in-high-sec-by-a-player-using-propagation-software/443909/133 "2024-04-07T13:44:13Z")
> [@Eloken\_Toralen](#): > > “Siri, push F1” Siri only responds on the 1st computer. You knew that right? ---
**Author:** ![New\_Order\_Enforcer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/new_order_enforcer/32/387867_2.png) [@New\_Order\_Enforcer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/New_Order_Enforcer)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2024, 1:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/was-i-killed-in-high-sec-by-a-player-using-propagation-software/443909/134 "2024-04-07T13:54:28Z")
> [@Eloken\_Toralen](#): > > “Siri, push F1” you should go here to let the CSM know about your concerns: [Assembly Hall - EVE Online Forums](https://forums.eveonline.com/c/council-of-stellar-management/assembly-hall/) Can I ask Alexa to destroy some miner at will? ---
**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/510263_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2024, 1:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/was-i-killed-in-high-sec-by-a-player-using-propagation-software/443909/135 "2024-04-07T13:58:36Z")
> [@Eloken\_Toralen](#): > > Open 20 notepad windows and type the F key into each one. Takes more than a second, even with practice. You don’t need to “type” anything. All the guns are already pre-fired, he only needs to lock up the target, which is pretty much 1 mouseclick, holding down the STRG key. I would agree that it isn’t possible with 20 clients within one second, but like 7 per second, yes. Would take him 3 ticks to activate the lock on 21 clients. ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Epeen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_epeen/32/373308_2.png) [@Mr\_Epeen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Epeen)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2024, 2:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/was-i-killed-in-high-sec-by-a-player-using-propagation-software/443909/136 "2024-04-07T14:11:24Z")
Ganking with 20 characters is so lame. Do what the big boys do and run 70+ characters spamming recruit links in the 12 NPC corp chats. This guy prolly pulls in a trillion ISK a month and adds years of gametime to his accts. All for low price of a whole lot of $4.99s to get started. Mr Epeen 🕶 ---
**Author:** ![Aisha\_Katalen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aisha_katalen/32/387724_2.png) [@Aisha\_Katalen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aisha_Katalen)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2024, 2:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/was-i-killed-in-high-sec-by-a-player-using-propagation-software/443909/137 "2024-04-07T14:57:01Z")
> [@Eloken\_Toralen](#): > > Incorrect. Some oracles will be shooting at shield, some armor, some hull. Its not like the old days of 100 drones assisted to one person calling down the rain, each ship is a different calculation in the server even if they all fire ‘at once’ or there about. Oracles have a slow rate of fire compared to how much time it takes to “activate” multiple accounts, and even compared to server ticks. They will boadly hit the same resists for all of them. > [@Eloken\_Toralen](#): > > Evidence? Innocent until proven guilting, or guilty until proven innocent? the evidence is in the damage drop off per client and also in the shown screenshot where you see different times for the different oracles. Would they have been activated at the same time there would be no obvious damage dropoff between the different clients, especially since the slow rate of fire of those lasers. AND there would be no different timing in the logs. > [@Eloken\_Toralen](#): > > just look up the average reaction time of a human and stick a Gaussian clickclickclickclickclickclickclickclickclickclickclickclick. Very difficult. The trick is in the preparation and setup, not in the clicking. > [@Eloken\_Toralen](#): > > So this guy an 20 other people just decided to name all their pilots consecutively ? Lots of larger groups make alts for special purposes, and if they can piss off people even more by using the same name they will not hesitate. Because it’s funny to see people cry and whine. Not saying this is the case but it can’t be ruled out either. ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Epeen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_epeen/32/373308_2.png) [@Mr\_Epeen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Epeen)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2024, 3:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/was-i-killed-in-high-sec-by-a-player-using-propagation-software/443909/138 "2024-04-07T15:20:14Z")
> [@Aisha\_Katalen](#): > > Lots of larger groups make alts for special purposes, and if they can piss off people even more by using the same name they will not hesitate. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Good one! I guess you slept through the class where the teacher discussed Occam’s razor. Mr Epeen 🕶 ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2024, 3:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/was-i-killed-in-high-sec-by-a-player-using-propagation-software/443909/139 "2024-04-07T15:21:26Z")
> [@Aisha\_Katalen](#): > > Because it’s funny to see people cry and whine The type of people EVE attracts ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/a/5/6/a5646ee62601ee07e259081309ddb8696b58fbf6.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Aisha\_Katalen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aisha_katalen/32/387724_2.png) [@Aisha\_Katalen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aisha_Katalen)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2024, 3:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/was-i-killed-in-high-sec-by-a-player-using-propagation-software/443909/140 "2024-04-07T15:25:07Z")
But it “can’t be ruled out”, nothing more. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2024, 10:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/was-i-killed-in-high-sec-by-a-player-using-propagation-software/443909/142 "2024-04-07T22:11:19Z")
> [@Mr\_Epeen](#): > > Ganking with 20 characters is so lame. Do what the big boys do and run 70+ characters spamming recruit links in the 12 NPC corp chats. This guy prolly pulls in a trillion ISK a month and adds years of gametime to his accts. Man, just wait until Mr Epeen realizes that guy is a ganker, and he’s added decades of gametime to his accounts. I bet he won’t even believe it. The last I checked, my guy was plexed well into the 2040s. The truth is just mind shattering. ---
**Author:** ![Salartarium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salartarium/32/468818_2.png) [@Salartarium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salartarium)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2024, 6:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/was-i-killed-in-high-sec-by-a-player-using-propagation-software/443909/143 "2024-04-08T06:52:17Z")
This is just as bad as everyone claiming that guy was ninja looting was macro-ing. Not only are people quick with the mouse but there’s a whole world of lesser-known slash commands, third-party tools, and .ini settings out there. ---
**Author:** ![Rocket\_Hellfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rocket_hellfire/32/396905_2.png) [@Rocket\_Hellfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rocket_Hellfire)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2024, 2:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/was-i-killed-in-high-sec-by-a-player-using-propagation-software/443909/144 "2024-04-08T14:51:54Z")
‘tHeY wErE aLt-TaBbInG tHrOuGh AlL 21 aCcOuNtS wItH iMpOsSiBlE pReCiSiOn’ Unfortunately, paying accounts = $ to CCP. They will never not allow this officially. But we know the truth. ---
**Author:** ![Io\_Koval](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/io_koval/32/282426_2.png) [@Io\_Koval](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Io_Koval)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2024, 4:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/was-i-killed-in-high-sec-by-a-player-using-propagation-software/443909/145 "2024-04-08T16:36:33Z")
> [@Rocket\_Hellfire](#): > > But we know the truth. …that they were alt-tabbing through many accounts as shown in many primary sources like youtube videos or twitch VoDs? _Already linked in this thread_. Y’all are detached from reality and consuming so much tin foil I’m starting to genuinely worry about your mental health. Please seek professional care. ---
**Author:** ![Spacetramp\_Drago](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/spacetramp_drago/32/480922_2.png) [@Spacetramp\_Drago](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Spacetramp_Drago)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2024, 4:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/was-i-killed-in-high-sec-by-a-player-using-propagation-software/443909/146 "2024-04-08T16:51:41Z")
# [Was I killed in High-Sec by a player using propagation software?](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/was-i-killed-in-high-sec-by-a-player-using-propagation-software/443909) Very likely, yes. ---
**Author:** ![Aisha\_Katalen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aisha_katalen/32/387724_2.png) [@Aisha\_Katalen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aisha_Katalen)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2024, 4:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/was-i-killed-in-high-sec-by-a-player-using-propagation-software/443909/147 "2024-04-08T16:54:48Z")
> [@Io\_Koval](#): > > alt-tabbing Not even THAT is needed. ---
**Author:** ![New\_Order\_Enforcer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/new_order_enforcer/32/387867_2.png) [@New\_Order\_Enforcer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/New_Order_Enforcer)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2024, 5:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/was-i-killed-in-high-sec-by-a-player-using-propagation-software/443909/148 "2024-04-08T17:28:17Z")
Miners, it is not going to happen, he is not cheating. Stop dreaming. Now back to my alt-tabbing. o/ ---
**Author:** ![Io\_Koval](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/io_koval/32/282426_2.png) [@Io\_Koval](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Io_Koval)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2024, 7:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/was-i-killed-in-high-sec-by-a-player-using-propagation-software/443909/149 "2024-04-08T19:44:50Z")
> [@Spacetramp\_Drago](#): > > Very likely, yes. There’s been well over 100 posts, zero of which contain evidence backing your belief, and non-zero evidence to refute it. It is seriously worrying how desperate people are. At the end of the day the irrational attachment doesn’t even matter: if you sincerely believe your ship got blown up because they used some sort of software, evidence shows it still would have gotten blown up without it. It’s a sick mental attachment for no rational gain for any argument. ---
**Author:** ![New\_Order\_Enforcer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/new_order_enforcer/32/387867_2.png) [@New\_Order\_Enforcer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/New_Order_Enforcer)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2024, 8:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/was-i-killed-in-high-sec-by-a-player-using-propagation-software/443909/150 "2024-04-08T20:30:58Z")
_“these pirates are having way more fun than I do!, EVE is supposed to be a game about watching paint dry! how they dare! they are using cheats for sure!! grrrrr”_ ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2024, 8:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/was-i-killed-in-high-sec-by-a-player-using-propagation-software/443909/151 "2024-04-08T20:48:59Z")
> [@New\_Order\_Enforcer](#): > > these pirates are having way more fun than I do! How dare they ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/5/9/8/59844d83184c07935ecd25cf7d983819090e691d.webp) [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/was-i-killed-in-high-sec-by-a-player-using-propagation-software/443909.md?page=6) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/was-i-killed-in-high-sec-by-a-player-using-propagation-software/443909.md?page=8)