# Waste of Time **URL:** \ **Category:** Known Space\ **Created:** [June 3, 2026, 4:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/waste-of-time/512589 "2026-06-03T16:10:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2026, 2:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/waste-of-time/512589/103 "2026-06-05T02:19:29Z")
I was thinking 08 when I joined till 14 when the whales took over. That’s just my theory, but the game does have some or at least used to have some high end players who can afford it. CCP can’t brag about its demographics anymore. ---
**Author:** ![Christine\_Creed](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/christine_creed/32/510186_2.png) [@Christine\_Creed](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Christine_Creed)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2026, 2:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/waste-of-time/512589/104 "2026-06-05T02:33:33Z")
> [@MB\_ThePhotographer](#): > > will never understand why CCP steers new players into mining for profit? Why not exploring or lvl 1 missions? Mining while certainly necessary should be done under a covering force. Hmmm doesnt the AIR program decipher this though? Folks have a choice you know. Are you suggesting taking mining off the AIR program? I also joined in 08, and for the life of me…i dont recall any formula. Too long ago for me to remember. I guess i didnt worry about the little stuff, still dont. ---
**Author:** ![Malak\_Starfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/malak_starfire/32/501915_2.png) [@Malak\_Starfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Malak_Starfire)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2026, 2:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/waste-of-time/512589/105 "2026-06-05T02:35:37Z")
> [@MB\_ThePhotographer](#): > > I was thinking 08 when I joined till 14 when the whales took over. The formula hasn’t changed, just the people imo. ---
**Author:** ![Malak\_Starfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/malak_starfire/32/501915_2.png) [@Malak\_Starfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Malak_Starfire)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2026, 2:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/waste-of-time/512589/106 "2026-06-05T02:36:06Z")
And mining isn’t pushed anymore than any other playstyle. ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2026, 2:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/waste-of-time/512589/107 "2026-06-05T02:37:04Z")
> [@Malak\_Starfire](#): > > The formula hasn’t changed, just the people imo. The players have changed. Both for the good and the bad… ---
**Author:** ![Christine\_Creed](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/christine_creed/32/510186_2.png) [@Christine\_Creed](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Christine_Creed)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2026, 2:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/waste-of-time/512589/108 "2026-06-05T02:40:46Z")
> [@Malak\_Starfire](#): > > And mining isn’t pushed anymore than any other playstyle ^ This ^ I didnt quite understand that statement either. ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2026, 2:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/waste-of-time/512589/109 "2026-06-05T02:41:02Z")
Then why all the effort into a new player excrementum for miners? ---
**Author:** ![Malak\_Starfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/malak_starfire/32/501915_2.png) [@Malak\_Starfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Malak_Starfire)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2026, 2:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/waste-of-time/512589/110 "2026-06-05T02:42:22Z")
That way miners can have an epic arc… ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2026, 2:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/waste-of-time/512589/111 "2026-06-05T02:43:42Z")
Do under 30 day old players need epic arc’s? ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2026, 2:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/waste-of-time/512589/112 "2026-06-05T02:45:42Z")
I might go check those out later. 2 new ones for each Empire. ---
**Author:** ![Malak\_Starfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/malak_starfire/32/501915_2.png) [@Malak\_Starfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Malak_Starfire)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2026, 2:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/waste-of-time/512589/113 "2026-06-05T02:45:46Z")
Well, they had one (since before '08) and are getting another for PVE…so at least FC think they need one. Just because miners get ‘some’ love doesn’t mean they are pushing the playstyle more…it’s like HS people when Null sec gets an expansion after years of HS getting the ‘love’ ---
**Author:** ![Christine\_Creed](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/christine_creed/32/510186_2.png) [@Christine\_Creed](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Christine_Creed)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2026, 2:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/waste-of-time/512589/114 "2026-06-05T02:47:20Z")
> [@Arthur\_Aihaken](#): > > I might go check those out later. Theyre very short. Fractured Legacy is the name. ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2026, 2:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/waste-of-time/512589/115 "2026-06-05T02:51:16Z")
I still get the impression at least that they push mining. Or am I misreading it and its just lazy players who just want to chill? ---
**Author:** ![Malak\_Starfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/malak_starfire/32/501915_2.png) [@Malak\_Starfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Malak_Starfire)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2026, 2:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/waste-of-time/512589/116 "2026-06-05T02:52:03Z")
It’s mostly just players who want to chill. Yes the last expansion was focused on mining, but mining was in a bad state and needed a kick before prices got too crazy ---
**Author:** ![Christine\_Creed](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/christine_creed/32/510186_2.png) [@Christine\_Creed](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Christine_Creed)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2026, 2:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/waste-of-time/512589/117 "2026-06-05T02:52:41Z")
> [@MB\_ThePhotographer](#): > > Or am I misreading it Yea, you misread it. > [@MB\_ThePhotographer](#): > > lazy players who just want to chill? You make it sound like a bad thing. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2026, 2:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/waste-of-time/512589/118 "2026-06-05T02:57:48Z")
> [@Malak\_Starfire](#): > > but mining was in a bad state and needed a kick before prices got too crazy I’ll give you that one. > [@Christine\_Creed](#): > > You make it sound like a bad thing. 😛 Not to me anymore. Alpha for me from now on! 😜 ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2026, 3:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/waste-of-time/512589/119 "2026-06-05T03:00:40Z")
> [@MB\_ThePhotographer](#): > > Not to me anymore. Alpha for me from now on! Nooooo…! Now I’m torn on what to do… ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2026, 3:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/waste-of-time/512589/120 "2026-06-05T03:04:18Z")
> [@Christine\_Creed](#): > > I guess i didnt worry about the little stuff, still dont. Back then, neither did I. But after I lost all my corp m8’s and the numbers dropped in half, I started to think about it. I got a bad taste outta null both times I tried it. Rather use my own talents rather be sent to the front with incompetent leaders. ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2026, 3:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/waste-of-time/512589/121 "2026-06-05T03:10:32Z")
> [@Arthur\_Aihaken](#): > > Nooooo…! Now I’m torn on what to do… If you just want isk, do what I did and get 3 good acct’s and creatively acquire a decent C2 wh and do pi. Great isk for little effort. I don’t think it will cover your subs but still a challenge of sorts. ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2026, 3:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/waste-of-time/512589/122 "2026-06-05T03:13:19Z")
I find no local blissful. Call it effort/experiance/whatever… Edit; I forgot hubris, no good pilot goes into battle thinking they’re going to lose the fight. Its up to the individual pilot to make the difference in this game. No “Hun out of the sun” if you pay attn. My apologies to Germany for that one. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/waste-of-time/512589.md?page=5) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/waste-of-time/512589.md?page=7)