# Waste of Time **URL:** \ **Category:** Known Space\ **Created:** [June 3, 2026, 4:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/waste-of-time/512589 "2026-06-03T16:10:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Lydra\_Victor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lydra_victor/32/456813_2.png) [@Lydra\_Victor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lydra_Victor)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2026, 4:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/waste-of-time/512589/123 "2026-06-05T04:10:01Z")
> [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](#): > > Just imagine FC turning Uedama into a 0.9 system Then Turning Jita into 0.5.. đŸ’© ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2026, 4:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/waste-of-time/512589/124 "2026-06-05T04:30:47Z")
> [@Lydra\_Victor](#): > > Then Turning Jita into 0.5 Naw, if we’re gonna mess with players make it a 0.4
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**Author:** ![Honzas\_Krutas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/honzas_krutas/32/497382_2.png) [@Honzas\_Krutas](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Honzas_Krutas)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2026, 9:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/waste-of-time/512589/125 "2026-06-05T09:15:34Z")
Oh and btw this new region comes with indirect nerfs to gankers. They are making new gates that will cut some of the 0.6 between Jita and Amarr. ---
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2026, 9:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/waste-of-time/512589/126 "2026-06-05T09:54:28Z")
i don’t think gankers would even necessarily target the new players.. maybe the ganker wannabes would be the ones to target the new players just cause they don’t like the idea of exordium, like a lot of people posting here. ---
**Author:** ![Honzas\_Krutas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/honzas_krutas/32/497382_2.png) [@Honzas\_Krutas](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Honzas_Krutas)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2026, 10:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/waste-of-time/512589/127 "2026-06-05T10:33:27Z")
What are you talking about? I didn’t say anything about new players. CCP is adding new gate connections (opposite that game needs) that allows to skip some of the choke points for everyone. As a side result it makes highsec Jita-Amarr route shorter and avoids all 0.6 (as there weren’t 0.5 already between Minmatar and Amarr space. ---
**Author:** ![Christine\_Creed](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/christine_creed/32/510186_2.png) [@Christine\_Creed](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Christine_Creed)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2026, 11:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/waste-of-time/512589/128 "2026-06-05T11:05:34Z")
> [@Honzas\_Krutas](#): > > nerfs to gankers Youll just have to wait until it all settles out after the release. Youll have to actually put in a little work to find where your new hunting grounds will be. Youll adapt just fine like the rest of us. ---
**Author:** ![Honzas\_Krutas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/honzas_krutas/32/497382_2.png) [@Honzas\_Krutas](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Honzas_Krutas)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2026, 12:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/waste-of-time/512589/129 "2026-06-05T12:06:05Z")
> [@Christine\_Creed](#): > > Youll just have to wait until it all settles out after the release. Youll have to actually put in a little work to find where your new hunting grounds will be. Youll adapt just fine like the rest of us. We always adapt. I am just stating a facts. If Gheth and other 0.6 are not on the route, then the ganks will happen in Eradan and Bagodan. It will require to PLEX/sub more accounts, which is probably the real intention behind it from CCP, but even if we would have to pay them from our own pockets we will. ---
**Author:** ![Christine\_Creed](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/christine_creed/32/510186_2.png) [@Christine\_Creed](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Christine_Creed)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2026, 12:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/waste-of-time/512589/130 "2026-06-05T12:21:11Z")
> [@Honzas\_Krutas](#): > > It will require to PLEX/sub more accounts Im not a pvper in this game
so i have little to no knowledge of it with the exception of being popped during wardecs. Im also not a ganker, so i also have no experience in shooting fish in a barrel either. But please enlighten me why a slightly changed route because of an expansion is forcing you or anybody to plex/sub more accounts. ---
**Author:** ![Pure\_Capitalist](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pure_capitalist/32/502764_2.png) [@Pure\_Capitalist](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pure_Capitalist)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2026, 12:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/waste-of-time/512589/131 "2026-06-05T12:33:54Z")
CCP reminds me of Hollywood executives sitting in a boardroom trying to manufacture the “next big hit.” Like Hollywood, they seem to have lost touch with the people who actually knew how to make the thing good in the first place. Sure, Hollywood can still produce a financial monster like _Zootopia 2_, which pulled in about $1.87 billion worldwide. But that mostly proves the point: safe IP, predictable formula, broadest possible audience, and heavy reliance on children and nostalgia. That is not creative confidence. That is risk management. ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/5/5/7/5577d39c55b70539d7d6e19b5b2e9aaf6f57d676.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Pure\_Capitalist](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pure_capitalist/32/502764_2.png) [@Pure\_Capitalist](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pure_Capitalist)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2026, 1:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/waste-of-time/512589/132 "2026-06-05T13:12:17Z")
They should not route new players through Uedama. That being said, CCP should loosen its grip on our interaction here. Their latest trailer literally shows someone getting shot in the face in a business setting. And don’t even get me started on WiS, then backpedaling on Captain’s Quarters. ![Eve Online Cradle of War Trailer](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/1/7/8/1781c8f106e6116a4081a48d997cb9cd5ff9d1bf.jpeg) # At the aforementioned timestamp: [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/3/d/d/3dd55e2ceb060fc363fea4dffbd7282f69ca1cb3.jpeg "Cradle of War | Expansion Trailer") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FA5Lc-9yBg&t=71) ---
**Author:** ![Honzas\_Krutas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/honzas_krutas/32/497382_2.png) [@Honzas\_Krutas](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Honzas_Krutas)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2026, 1:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/waste-of-time/512589/133 "2026-06-05T13:33:21Z")
> [@Christine\_Creed](#): > > But please enlighten me why a slightly changed route because of an expansion is forcing you or anybody to plex/sub more accounts. There is a reason why the ganks happens in specific systems. Beyond the obvious “it is a choke point that most players need to fly through”. It is called CONCORD response time. The higher the security status of the system, the less time we get before CONCORD ECM our ship(s). The new route between Minmatar and Amarr seems to avoid all 0.6 systems without even making it a longer trip. In fact it takes less jumps than before. This means that the next best systems we can gank are 0.7. The difference in CONCORD response time between 0.6 and 0.7 is 4 seconds. 4 seconds equals to 2 shots from Catalyst. If we now need to use lets say 20 catalysts to kill 3x Expanded Caroghold Freighter in Gheth, if the gank happens in 0.7 that will mean we will need eother 5more toons in Catalysts or mix some t2 Taloses in between. (math behind it: in 0.6 Catalyst could shoot 10 times, if the freighter dies to 200 shots, in 0.7 the same amount of ships will do 160 shots, so with 8 shots per character that is 40/8 = 5 more alts in catalysts needed). But the 20 calatyst is not acurate number, might be more. ---
**Author:** ![Pure\_Capitalist](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pure_capitalist/32/502764_2.png) [@Pure\_Capitalist](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pure_Capitalist)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2026, 1:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/waste-of-time/512589/134 "2026-06-05T13:45:38Z")
> [@Honzas\_Krutas](#): > > The higher the security status of the system, the less time we get before CONCORD ECM our ship(s). Game mechanics working as intended. đŸ«¶ The route should be 1.0 the entire way with no stoplights!!! ![giphy](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/5/1/4/514529e54203f23763bf18e426cde013b4e22e19.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Honzas\_Krutas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/honzas_krutas/32/497382_2.png) [@Honzas\_Krutas](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Honzas_Krutas)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2026, 1:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/waste-of-time/512589/135 "2026-06-05T13:47:41Z")
> [@Pure\_Capitalist](#): > > The route should be 1.0 the entire way with no stoplights!!! Yes. Antigankers will not stop crying until that happens. ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2026, 1:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/waste-of-time/512589/136 "2026-06-05T13:53:50Z")
> [@Honzas\_Krutas](#): > > Antigankers will not stop crying until that happens. Some of you just want to watch Exordium burn
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**Author:** ![Pure\_Capitalist](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pure_capitalist/32/502764_2.png) [@Pure\_Capitalist](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pure_Capitalist)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2026, 1:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/waste-of-time/512589/137 "2026-06-05T13:54:30Z")
> [@Honzas\_Krutas](#): > > will not stop crying Like your last post? ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2026, 1:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/waste-of-time/512589/138 "2026-06-05T13:55:40Z")
> [@Pure\_Capitalist](#): > > Like your last post? Ganker tears are always the saltiest
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**Author:** ![Pure\_Capitalist](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pure_capitalist/32/502764_2.png) [@Pure\_Capitalist](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pure_Capitalist)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2026, 2:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/waste-of-time/512589/139 "2026-06-05T14:07:48Z")
> [@Arthur\_Aihaken](#): > > always the saltiest ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/3/4/7/347c590dd44cbf0ca05908c3af7beec680b0bbf4.png) ---
**Author:** ![Honzas\_Krutas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/honzas_krutas/32/497382_2.png) [@Honzas\_Krutas](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Honzas_Krutas)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2026, 2:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/waste-of-time/512589/140 "2026-06-05T14:07:53Z")
> [@Pure\_Capitalist](#): > > Like your last post? You mean an education reply to @Christine_Creed who specifically asked why would that be? Sadly, I was able to hold my tears when writing it. But it was close, the nostalgia of ganking in Niarja (0.5) on original Jita-Amarr route came to me when I was writing it â˜č . ---
**Author:** ![Pure\_Capitalist](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pure_capitalist/32/502764_2.png) [@Pure\_Capitalist](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pure_Capitalist)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2026, 2:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/waste-of-time/512589/141 "2026-06-05T14:26:59Z")
> [@Honzas\_Krutas](#): > > You mean an education reply A ganker tear by any other name would smell as sweet
 -– William Shakespeare, _Romeo and Juliet_ (Act 2, Scene 2) ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2026, 2:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/waste-of-time/512589/142 "2026-06-05T14:30:01Z")
There just aren’t enough likes in a day
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