# Waste of Time **URL:** \ **Category:** PvE Ships & Modules\ **Created:** [June 6, 2026, 12:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/waste-of-time/512717 "2026-06-06T12:30:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Queotzcatl](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/queotzcatl/32/436120_2.png) [@Queotzcatl](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Queotzcatl)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2026, 3:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/waste-of-time/512717/22 "2026-06-07T15:15:48Z")
It does a lot actually. Except you’re running a shield paladin with cruise missiles for some reasons, but that isn’t possible. ---
**Author:** ![Pure\_Capitalist](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pure_capitalist/32/502764_2.png) [@Pure\_Capitalist](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pure_Capitalist)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2026, 5:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/waste-of-time/512717/23 "2026-06-07T17:49:25Z")
> [@Cypherous](#): > > Oh i see how you ended up with borked numbers, you’re using a golem My numbers are not “borked”, but you have a fair point. Changing the OP Title… ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2026, 7:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/waste-of-time/512717/24 "2026-06-07T19:24:43Z")
CN is the only bastion that bonuses missiles. FN bastion is only good for short-range setups (same for IN bastion); RF bastion is better for mid or long-range setups. ---
**Author:** ![Vortigern\_Vitalis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vortigern_vitalis/32/455600_2.png) [@Vortigern\_Vitalis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vortigern_Vitalis)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2026, 8:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/waste-of-time/512717/25 "2026-06-07T20:30:28Z")
> [@Pure\_Capitalist](#): > > I’m not sure where you got that, oh, out of your a$$. No, it is the fact that you stupidly only talked about the Golem, which is self-evidently not going to be a good fit with some of the Bastions, which are optimised for other ships. Simples. ---
**Author:** ![Pure\_Capitalist](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pure_capitalist/32/502764_2.png) [@Pure\_Capitalist](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pure_Capitalist)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2026, 9:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/waste-of-time/512717/26 "2026-06-07T21:01:29Z")
> [@Vortigern\_Vitalis](#): > > you stupidly only talked about the Golem Oh dear, I’m sorry. I didn’t realize that you were touched. I changed the title. If you are not savvy enough to run the numbers for your preferred ship, just let me know and I’d be happy to help you. ---
**Author:** ![Denyial](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/denyial/32/426393_2.png) [@Denyial](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Denyial)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2026, 11:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/waste-of-time/512717/27 "2026-06-08T11:19:18Z")
Well EVE is a scam so what did you expect. ---
**Author:** ![Triglavian\_Ship\_Builder](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/triglavian_ship_builder/32/482850_2.png) [@Triglavian\_Ship\_Builder](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Triglavian_Ship_Builder)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2026, 11:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/waste-of-time/512717/28 "2026-06-08T11:27:51Z")
There is also a Video out there that breaks down the Navy Bastion Modules: [https://youtu.be/DHXTg9N3XVg](https://youtu.be/DHXTg9N3XVg) ---
**Author:** ![Pure\_Capitalist](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pure_capitalist/32/502764_2.png) [@Pure\_Capitalist](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pure_Capitalist)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2026, 1:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/waste-of-time/512717/29 "2026-06-08T13:26:28Z")
> [@Denyial](#): > > EVE is a scam Eve is one of the greatest things ever created. It’s just had a problem with stewardship over the years. Let’s hope it gets better with this new chapter. ---
**Author:** ![Vortigern\_Vitalis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vortigern_vitalis/32/455600_2.png) [@Vortigern\_Vitalis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vortigern_Vitalis)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2026, 3:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/waste-of-time/512717/30 "2026-06-08T15:46:16Z")
> [@Pure\_Capitalist](#): > > If you are not savvy enough to run the numbers for your preferred ship, just let me know and I’d be happy to help you. No, I just do not feel the need to open a self-evidently pointless thread about which Bastion works best for one particular ship, and I think about the title before opening threads. I mean, gosh, thank you for your painstaking analysis which shows that the Caldari Bastion is best for the Caldari Marauder. No one else would have realised that… ---
**Author:** ![Pure\_Capitalist](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pure_capitalist/32/502764_2.png) [@Pure\_Capitalist](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pure_Capitalist)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2026, 9:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/waste-of-time/512717/31 "2026-06-08T21:16:38Z")
> [@Vortigern\_Vitalis](#): > > thank you You’re welcome. ---
**Author:** ![Vortigern\_Vitalis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vortigern_vitalis/32/455600_2.png) [@Vortigern\_Vitalis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vortigern_Vitalis)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2026, 1:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/waste-of-time/512717/32 "2026-06-09T13:45:41Z")
Oh, so now faking replies from me, just because your arrogance has been exposed? Go give your head a wobble… ---
**Author:** ![Pure\_Capitalist](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pure_capitalist/32/502764_2.png) [@Pure\_Capitalist](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pure_Capitalist)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2026, 2:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/waste-of-time/512717/33 "2026-06-09T14:57:03Z")
> [@Vortigern\_Vitalis](#): > > faking I never “fake it.” ---
**Author:** ![Chad\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chad_frostpacker/32/504356_2.png) [@Chad\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chad_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2026, 5:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/waste-of-time/512717/34 "2026-06-09T17:20:18Z")
> [@Christine\_Creed](#): > > Or, you can use the thing called the “snipping tool.” That sounds like the training to perform would take longer than it does to train battleships to level V /also I too find out about modules and fittings through reading these forums more so than in game @Pure_Capitalist ---
**Author:** ![Queotzcatl](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/queotzcatl/32/436120_2.png) [@Queotzcatl](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Queotzcatl)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2026, 8:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/waste-of-time/512717/36 "2026-06-19T20:40:43Z")
I like the RF Fleet Bastion too for guns, but it gives too little fall-off for me. A simple T1 tracking enhancer gives more range and fall-off than the Bastion Does. -5% Fall-off on the Vargur also is very heavy blow… On Paladin and Kronos you can maximise DPS, or active armor tank and a little DPS with the Amarr Bastion. Poor Kronos without buffer tank can be no much fun if the enemy is too spread out. Blaster range are ridiculous. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2026, 8:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/waste-of-time/512717/37 "2026-09-17T20:41:16Z")
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