# We demand a Zero Tolerance Policy for malicious rookie scammers

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/we-demand-a-zero-tolerance-policy-for-malicious-rookie-scammers/204276>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [December 3, 2019, 8:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/we-demand-a-zero-tolerance-policy-for-malicious-rookie-scammers/204276 "2019-12-03T08:52:01Z")\
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**Author:** ![Bernie\_Nator](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bernie_nator/32/390552_2.png) [@Bernie\_Nator](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bernie_Nator)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2019, 11:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/we-demand-a-zero-tolerance-policy-for-malicious-rookie-scammers/204276/61 "2019-12-04T11:52:06Z")

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There is not. 😉

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**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2019, 12:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/we-demand-a-zero-tolerance-policy-for-malicious-rookie-scammers/204276/63 "2019-12-04T12:00:47Z")

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People get a notification when that happens?

You’re suggesting I get a spy in there,  
drop a structure so they can be wardecced,  
and then get booted so they can keep the structure?

Because that’s what you’re doing.  
And then what? Dec them and shoot the rookies so they quit?

He’ll just drop corp,  
make a new one  
and pull everyone in.

The rookies have no idea wtf is going on anyway  
and he’ll just invent a story about evil griefers.

The best of you are those who claim “log in and do something about it”,  
as if that would achieve anything. We’ve tried, it does _nothing_.

Are you guys seriously this stupid?

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**Author:** ![Ahari\_Chent-Shi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ahari_chent-shi/32/249476_2.png) [@Ahari\_Chent-Shi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ahari_Chent-Shi)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2019, 12:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/we-demand-a-zero-tolerance-policy-for-malicious-rookie-scammers/204276/64 "2019-12-04T12:03:51Z")

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That’s akin to dropping bombs on orphanages and hospitals to oust a dictator.

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**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2019, 12:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/we-demand-a-zero-tolerance-policy-for-malicious-rookie-scammers/204276/65 "2019-12-04T12:04:50Z")

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These people have mostly no ■■■■■■■ clue what they’re writing  
and definitely no ■■■■■■■ expeirence, else they wouldn’t be writing it.

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**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2019, 12:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/we-demand-a-zero-tolerance-policy-for-malicious-rookie-scammers/204276/66 "2019-12-04T12:09:47Z")

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> [@Ahari\_Chent-Shi](#):
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> That’s akin to dropping bombs on orphanages and hospitals to oust a dictator.

Because using three alts to gank them is much less a violation of their civile rights, yeaaaah.  
HTFU.

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**Author:** ![Ahari\_Chent-Shi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ahari_chent-shi/32/249476_2.png) [@Ahari\_Chent-Shi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ahari_Chent-Shi)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2019, 12:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/we-demand-a-zero-tolerance-policy-for-malicious-rookie-scammers/204276/67 "2019-12-04T12:10:38Z")

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Autumn is almost over, time to bring the strawman in from the field.

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**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2019, 12:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/we-demand-a-zero-tolerance-policy-for-malicious-rookie-scammers/204276/68 "2019-12-04T12:13:00Z")

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There’s no strawman.

If you accept people getting ganked in their first month of gameplay, in HS, then you should also accept people scamming those newbros.

Either it’s fine, or it’s not.

I personally accept people getting ganked in their first month - when communication ensues.

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**Author:** ![Malachite\_Cane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/malachite_cane/32/172396_2.png) [@Malachite\_Cane](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Malachite_Cane)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2019, 12:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/we-demand-a-zero-tolerance-policy-for-malicious-rookie-scammers/204276/69 "2019-12-04T12:14:05Z")

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So much anger and frustration… Must be Hard…  
Well I have played this game since 2003, always in the same manner. I dont think im stupid and I do think I know some… But hey maybe whining instead of doing is the new way to go in eve.  
Lets change htfu to softenthedammitdown.

So you have tried… What have you tried? Meaningless wardecs? Whining in Local?

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**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2019, 12:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/we-demand-a-zero-tolerance-policy-for-malicious-rookie-scammers/204276/70 "2019-12-04T12:15:16Z")

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> [@Malachite\_Cane](#):
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> Whining in Local?

Whining on the forums . A LOT. “miners are cancer and they should all be killed”. Then “ratters are cancer” etc. This kind of repeated stupidity

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**Author:** ![Ahari\_Chent-Shi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ahari_chent-shi/32/249476_2.png) [@Ahari\_Chent-Shi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ahari_Chent-Shi)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2019, 12:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/we-demand-a-zero-tolerance-policy-for-malicious-rookie-scammers/204276/71 "2019-12-04T12:18:31Z")

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The words “gank”, nor “HS”, appeared anywhere in my post. If you’re going to present an opinion in a reply, please make sure that it’s relevant to the discussion at hand.

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**Author:** ![Manweru\_Cemenotar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/manweru_cemenotar/32/230368_2.png) [@Manweru\_Cemenotar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Manweru_Cemenotar)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2019, 12:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/we-demand-a-zero-tolerance-policy-for-malicious-rookie-scammers/204276/72 "2019-12-04T12:19:02Z")

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> [@Herzog\_Wolfhammer](#):
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> Perhaps the best way to get back at him is roll some noob characters and throw a monkey wrench up that guys ass somehow - once known as “the Eve way” - rather than this appeal to amicable authority that might set precedent for things that are not going to be popular later on.

> [@Solstice\_Projekt](#):
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> You speak my language.

Yeah I definitelly should have known better than falling for this one and actually coming up with a plan for insider sabotage…

> [@Solstice\_Projekt](#):
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> In the past I’ve just wardecced people.

> [@Solstice\_Projekt](#):
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> And then what? Dec them and shoot the rookies so they quit?

Please make up your mind on what do you think is a good thing to do there.

You can’t just go on and spout this nonsense:

> [@Solstice\_Projekt](#):
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> These people have mostly no ■■■■■■■ clue what they’re writing

When You contradict yourself within span of a handfull of posts in the same thread.

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**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2019, 12:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/we-demand-a-zero-tolerance-policy-for-malicious-rookie-scammers/204276/73 "2019-12-04T12:23:14Z")

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> [@Ahari\_Chent-Shi](#):
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> The words “gank”, nor “HS”, appeared anywhere in my post. If you’re going to present an opinion in a reply, please make sure that it’s relevant to the discussion at hand.

Sorry I thought you were complaining that adding a structure in a newbro corp to dec them was too harsh.  
I had not understood that you were actually saying nothing.

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**Author:** ![Ahari\_Chent-Shi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ahari_chent-shi/32/249476_2.png) [@Ahari\_Chent-Shi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ahari_Chent-Shi)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2019, 12:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/we-demand-a-zero-tolerance-policy-for-malicious-rookie-scammers/204276/74 "2019-12-04T12:25:01Z")

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Consider that your +1 sIcK bUrN reeeeeekted for the day and move along.

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**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2019, 12:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/we-demand-a-zero-tolerance-policy-for-malicious-rookie-scammers/204276/75 "2019-12-04T12:27:30Z")

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Well you can still correct me instead of still saying nothing. " this is actually what I meant : X "

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**Author:** ![Kezrai\_Charzai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kezrai_charzai/32/394578_2.png) [@Kezrai\_Charzai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kezrai_Charzai)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2019, 12:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/we-demand-a-zero-tolerance-policy-for-malicious-rookie-scammers/204276/76 "2019-12-04T12:30:13Z")

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> [@Solstice\_Projekt](#):
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> The best of you are those who claim “log in and do something about it”,  
> as if that would achieve anything. We’ve tried, it does _nothing_ .
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> Are you guys seriously this stupid?

“I can’t beat this guy using EVE rules, so I need the rules changed to suit my preferences.”

Does that sound familiar to anyone?

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**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2019, 12:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/we-demand-a-zero-tolerance-policy-for-malicious-rookie-scammers/204276/77 "2019-12-04T12:33:18Z")

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typical crybaby ?

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**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2019, 2:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/we-demand-a-zero-tolerance-policy-for-malicious-rookie-scammers/204276/78 "2019-12-04T14:30:35Z")

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> [@Anderson\_Geten](#):
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> Makes you look like a complete retard,

I remember vividy you posting that EVERYBODY who insults a person here should be banned. Bye Andersen!

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**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2019, 2:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/we-demand-a-zero-tolerance-policy-for-malicious-rookie-scammers/204276/79 "2019-12-04T14:46:14Z")

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It’s one thing to scam a newbie and tell him what happened.  
It’s another to pull that newbie into a corp, and be a supposed “leader” and groom them and scam them that way… that is wrong, and naari, nair, nurri, norri,

whatever the ■■■■ flavor of the month his name is, should be ousted for that… plus his necessant b.s. he was flinging in the forums saying he’s a game dev etc. trash like him shouldn’t be in the game.

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**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2019, 2:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/we-demand-a-zero-tolerance-policy-for-malicious-rookie-scammers/204276/80 "2019-12-04T14:50:20Z")

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> [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](#):
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> It’s one thing to scam a newbie and tell him what happened.  
> It’s another to pull that newbie into a corp, and be a supposed “leader” and groom them and scam them that way

I see no issue with that.  
It’s exactly what corp management does, in HS or NS. Just more obvious in that particular case.

You make people pay you with taxes, and then they give you free manpower to participate in actions they won’t get any benefit from.

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**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2019, 3:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/we-demand-a-zero-tolerance-policy-for-malicious-rookie-scammers/204276/82 "2019-12-04T15:02:19Z")

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if he’s potentially making his rookies buy isk with plex then give him the isk?? if so then no, that is not the EVE way.

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