# We Need a New Hybrid Capital Class Between Battleships and Capitals **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [March 1, 2026, 12:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/we-need-a-new-hybrid-capital-class-between-battleships-and-capitals/507545 "2026-03-01T12:41:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Azuleas\_KURT](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/azuleas_kurt/32/476134_2.png) [@Azuleas\_KURT](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Azuleas_KURT)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2026, 12:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/we-need-a-new-hybrid-capital-class-between-battleships-and-capitals/507545/1 "2026-03-01T12:41:12Z")
Hello pilots, I want to share an idea I’ve been thinking about for a while: EVE could really benefit from **more hybrid ships like the Caiman** , and even more, a **whole new class of capital ships that sits between Battleships and traditional Capitals**. Here’s the vision: Ships like the Caiman are exciting because they combine **versatility, firepower, and unique mechanics** — capable of deploying fighters while still packing heavy offensive power. They’re not pure carriers, not pure dreadnoughts, but something in between. Right now, such ships are **extremely rare and almost impossible to access** , which limits the experience to a handful of players. Now imagine a **new ship class positioned between Battleships and Capitals**. Ships in this class would: - Offer **more strategic variety** than standard Capitals without being overwhelming - Serve as **a stepping stone for newer capital pilots** , making high-end gameplay more accessible - Introduce **unique mechanics** , like partial fighter deployment, specialized weapon systems, or hybrid defensive/offensive roles - Encourage **creative fleet compositions** that feel fresh and unpredictable In short, the combination of: 1. More **Caiman-style hybrid ships** 2. A **new capital tier bridging Battleships and Capitals** …could **transform capital warfare in New Eden**. It would create more **meaningful goals for players** , more **diverse engagement possibilities** , and more **memorable moments** in both PvP and PvE. EVE thrives on ambition, experimentation, and unique experiences. Let’s give players more opportunities to **fly unusual, high-identity ships** — not just spreadsheets with bigger numbers. Fly smart, innovate, and let’s push EVE toward **more variety, creativity, and strategic depth**. ---
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2026, 1:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/we-need-a-new-hybrid-capital-class-between-battleships-and-capitals/507545/2 "2026-03-01T13:32:10Z")
Isn’t that what dreads are for? ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2026, 1:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/we-need-a-new-hybrid-capital-class-between-battleships-and-capitals/507545/3 "2026-03-01T13:34:58Z")
The Caiman of your example is a rare expensive pirate-faction dreadnought. If you wish to have an accessible ship at a level of either battleships or capital ships I recommend you stop looking at pirate ships and simply buy a T1, T2 or faction dread or battleship, which are considerably cheaper than these pirate ships. There is no need to have a ship in between those categories, tell your chatgpt to simply ignore pirate ships for now if you don’t have the wallet for them. I don’t want to spend that much ISK on a ship either like the Caiman. Problem solved? Edit: with the context of your [other post](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-the-game-so-complicated/498950/180) I now have a better idea about what your goal of this thread seems to be. You think “people could kill my Rattlesnake in low sec, but if I fly a bigger and better ship at least I have a chance!”. Please learn from those Rattlesnake deaths: big ships aren’t going to save you. Even if you could afford to fly a Titan people would still catch you and kill you with superior firepower. A bigger ship isn’t going to solve your issues. Learn to stay alive instead, which is considerably easier in a small agile ship. Go smaller. If staying within the Guristas theme, try a Gila! ---
**Author:** ![Uta\_Asmai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uta_asmai/32/476817_2.png) [@Uta\_Asmai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uta_Asmai)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2026, 1:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/we-need-a-new-hybrid-capital-class-between-battleships-and-capitals/507545/4 "2026-03-01T13:36:55Z")
> [@Gerard\_Amatin](#): > > The Caiman of your example is a rare expensive pirate-faction dreadnought. > > If you wish to have an affordable ship between dreads and battleships I recommend you stop looking at pirate ships and simply buy a T1 or even a T2 dread or battleship, which are considerably cheaper. > > Problem solved? no because you cannot fly dreads in high which is obviously his purpose ---
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2026, 1:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/we-need-a-new-hybrid-capital-class-between-battleships-and-capitals/507545/5 "2026-03-01T13:46:28Z")
Few weeks ago they were complaining about not being able to use their Kronos in L5 missions, this could be from that as well. ---
**Author:** ![Anna\_Dyneaux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anna_dyneaux/32/510758_2.png) [@Anna\_Dyneaux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anna_Dyneaux)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2026, 2:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/we-need-a-new-hybrid-capital-class-between-battleships-and-capitals/507545/6 "2026-03-01T14:53:35Z")
I would say the Leshak/Babaroga kind of fit the idea of something between a battleship and a dread. Once that disintegrator spins up you’ll feel well more powerful than in a standard battleship. ---
**Author:** ![Azuleas\_KURT](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/azuleas_kurt/32/476134_2.png) [@Azuleas\_KURT](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Azuleas_KURT)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2026, 3:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/we-need-a-new-hybrid-capital-class-between-battleships-and-capitals/507545/7 "2026-03-01T15:32:22Z")
Hey, first of all, what did you mean by “tell your ChatGPT”? Anyway, my main goal is to rat using a ship that’s a mix between a dreadnought and a carrier because I think that would be super fun. I’m already actively flying a carrier, and its mechanics are really exciting, but the idea of ratting both with rockets **and** fighters (which are stronger than drones) sounded amazing—and then I found out the game doesn’t let you do that. That’s why I opened this thread. I really want to add something to the game; I just don’t get why it’s such a big issue… ---
**Author:** ![Azuleas\_KURT](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/azuleas_kurt/32/476134_2.png) [@Azuleas\_KURT](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Azuleas_KURT)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2026, 3:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/we-need-a-new-hybrid-capital-class-between-battleships-and-capitals/507545/8 "2026-03-01T15:34:40Z")
I’m currently playing in both hi-sec and null-sec, so it’s not about having bigger ships or tougher PvP—my goal is just to make the fun mechanics more accessible for everyone. ---
**Author:** ![Azuleas\_KURT](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/azuleas_kurt/32/476134_2.png) [@Azuleas\_KURT](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Azuleas_KURT)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2026, 3:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/we-need-a-new-hybrid-capital-class-between-battleships-and-capitals/507545/9 "2026-03-01T15:37:40Z")
I wasn’t talking about the Kronos; I was referring to carriers not being usable properly in L5 missions. You’re remembering it wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2026, 3:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/we-need-a-new-hybrid-capital-class-between-battleships-and-capitals/507545/10 "2026-03-01T15:55:49Z")
Cool ChatGPT bro… :AIDR: ---
**Author:** ![Azuleas\_KURT](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/azuleas_kurt/32/476134_2.png) [@Azuleas\_KURT](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Azuleas_KURT)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2026, 4:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/we-need-a-new-hybrid-capital-class-between-battleships-and-capitals/507545/11 "2026-03-01T16:03:34Z")
English isn’t my native language, so I need to use a program to help you understand what I’m trying to say, right? ---
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2026, 6:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/we-need-a-new-hybrid-capital-class-between-battleships-and-capitals/507545/12 "2026-03-01T18:17:36Z")
you know the forum has several languages for it right? if your supported language is on the forums, i would use it, lest you have issues with people not understanding you. ---
**Author:** ![Done25](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/done25/32/494511_2.png) [@Done25](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Done25)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2026, 6:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/we-need-a-new-hybrid-capital-class-between-battleships-and-capitals/507545/13 "2026-03-02T18:45:16Z")
Or they can balance change carriers to be better at killing sub caps while refocusing dreads as being for killing structures and other capitals. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2026, 6:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/we-need-a-new-hybrid-capital-class-between-battleships-and-capitals/507545/14 "2026-05-31T18:46:12Z")
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