# We should have a capital ships maintenance system

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/we-should-have-a-capital-ships-maintenance-system/240433>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [May 11, 2020, 10:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/we-should-have-a-capital-ships-maintenance-system/240433 "2020-05-11T22:39:39Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 18\
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**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2020, 11:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/we-should-have-a-capital-ships-maintenance-system/240433/62 "2020-05-14T11:52:05Z")

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> [@Caleb\_Seremshur](#):
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> What’s the matter? Poor comprehension?

No, your inability to write a coherent post is.

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**Author:** ![Nordak\_Balrem](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nordak_balrem/32/200160_2.png) [@Nordak\_Balrem](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nordak_Balrem)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2020, 12:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/we-should-have-a-capital-ships-maintenance-system/240433/63 "2020-05-14T12:01:40Z")

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I have an Idea, everyone will hate it.

Mass based Tidi, have systems forced into tidi after a certain mass is reached in system and increase tidi effect as mass is increased in system… No one will want to have staging systems or gather capitals in a single location. People will probably quit the game in record numbers, it is perfect, it is the worst thing ever.

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**Author:** ![Nordak\_Balrem](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nordak_balrem/32/200160_2.png) [@Nordak\_Balrem](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nordak_Balrem)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2020, 12:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/we-should-have-a-capital-ships-maintenance-system/240433/65 "2020-05-14T12:42:06Z")

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So cute, you do have a crush on my Amarrian male ass.

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**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2020, 12:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/we-should-have-a-capital-ships-maintenance-system/240433/66 "2020-05-14T12:46:12Z")

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Perhaps. Do you have a problem with homo erotic people?

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**Author:** ![Nordak\_Balrem](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nordak_balrem/32/200160_2.png) [@Nordak\_Balrem](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nordak_Balrem)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2020, 12:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/we-should-have-a-capital-ships-maintenance-system/240433/67 "2020-05-14T12:50:40Z")

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No, want to kiss and make up now? You have to admit that idea was the worst Idea in the history of EVE ideas, as intended.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2020, 12:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/we-should-have-a-capital-ships-maintenance-system/240433/68 "2020-05-14T12:52:40Z")

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You must really hate Jita

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**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2020, 12:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/we-should-have-a-capital-ships-maintenance-system/240433/69 "2020-05-14T12:55:10Z")

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> [@Nordak\_Balrem](#):
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> want to kiss and make up now

I have no problem with you personally, only with your bogus arguments or lack of any at all.

> [@Nordak\_Balrem](#):
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> You have to admit that idea was the worst Idea in the history of EVE ideas

I already said so, no need to admit it.

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**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2020, 4:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/we-should-have-a-capital-ships-maintenance-system/240433/70 "2020-05-14T16:04:39Z")

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> [@MB\_ThePhotographer](#):
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> Where did it say that? It’s not what I read.

He was talking about “mining in real life, when the ore runs out, its out”. That is a direct quote from him. I pointed out that this was stupid, and showed why.

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**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2020, 4:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/we-should-have-a-capital-ships-maintenance-system/240433/71 "2020-05-14T16:13:47Z")

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> [@Caleb\_Seremshur](#):
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> You could have read the original linked post from 5 years ago if you like. The resources suffer depreciated yields because the area is overfarmed, fringe territories get richer ore types because they are underfarmed. Eventually power gets concentrated at the edges of territory because they need to defend their income. Right now the fringes are abandoned and its the internal systems that do ALL the heavy lifting.

In other words, the larger coalitions will just move their mining to the, as you call it, “Fringe” systems, and thsoe will become core, and when they get depleted, they will switch again. Not really a very big difference, i mean, i suppose it makes mining more tedious, if thats your goal.

> [@Caleb\_Seremshur](#):
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> You still cant attack the fringe systems because response times are too low\* thanks to titan cannon and jump bridges.

Sure. And people arent opposed to moving either, so i guess your suggestion is crap.

> [@Caleb\_Seremshur](#):
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> The defender has every single advantage and isnt punished for having HQ 30 jumps from the area being attacked.

The defender has some advantages, and the attackers have some. Namely, attackers have the advantage of choosing where and when to hit. Thats a very big advantage. Just ask Anti-ganking.

> [@Caleb\_Seremshur](#):
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> You’re welcome btw and keep your opinions to yourself.

If you dont like our opinions, then write your suggestions in a notepad and save it on your computer, so that no one will read them and therefore no one will have an opinion.

Otherwise, you come to a public forum, write a stupid opinion, and people are gonna sh\*t on you.

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**Author:** ![Caleb\_Seremshur](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/caleb_seremshur/32/399348_2.png) [@Caleb\_Seremshur](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Caleb_Seremshur)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2020, 4:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/we-should-have-a-capital-ships-maintenance-system/240433/72 "2020-05-14T16:19:46Z")

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> [@Solonius\_Rex](#):
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> Sure. And people arent opposed to moving either, so i guess your suggestion is crap.

You aren’t considering how large a region is and how a coordinated attack on a few systems at the same time will pressure the defense forces. If you want to doomball and blob everything you will hit 1 invader fleet and miss some others.

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**Author:** ![Caleb\_Seremshur](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/caleb_seremshur/32/399348_2.png) [@Caleb\_Seremshur](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Caleb_Seremshur)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2020, 4:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/we-should-have-a-capital-ships-maintenance-system/240433/73 "2020-05-14T16:20:28Z")

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> [@Solonius\_Rex](#):
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> If you dont like our opinions, then write your suggestions in a notepad and save it on your computer, so that no one will read them and therefore no one will have an opinion.
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> Otherwise, you come to a public forum, write a stupid opinion, and people are gonna sh\*t on you.

If you are going to insult me, i will report the post and get you muzzled. That’s how a forum works too.

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**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2020, 4:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/we-should-have-a-capital-ships-maintenance-system/240433/74 "2020-05-14T16:22:38Z")

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Not these forums, pal.

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**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2020, 4:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/we-should-have-a-capital-ships-maintenance-system/240433/75 "2020-05-14T16:57:46Z")

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> [@Solonius\_Rex](#):
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> Otherwise, you come to a public forum, write a stupid opinion, and people are gonna sh\*t on you.

Now we are talking!

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**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2020, 5:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/we-should-have-a-capital-ships-maintenance-system/240433/77 "2020-05-14T17:47:47Z")

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> [@Caleb\_Seremshur](#):
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> You aren’t considering how large a region is and how a coordinated attack on a few systems at the same time will pressure the defense forces. If you want to doomball and blob everything you will hit 1 invader fleet and miss some others.

You arent considering how cynos and jump bridges work, and how a coordinated attack is meaningless because not everyone mines at the same time at different locations, or rat at the same time, and that regular attacks are no different.

But if you are talking about actually targetting systems to take over, then, again, no. You would need overwhelming force from each invader fleet, essentially bringing back the Money Badger Coalition, which isnt coming back any time soon. So, again, no. Your idea fails.

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**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2020, 5:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/we-should-have-a-capital-ships-maintenance-system/240433/78 "2020-05-14T17:49:10Z")

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> [@Caleb\_Seremshur](#):
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> If you are going to insult me, i will report the post and get you muzzled. That’s how a forum works too.

Thats not how the forum works. Feel free to flag my post, a moderator looks at your flag and approves or denies it, and I will not get muzzled if the moderator deems that it isnt an insult. This is how the forum works.

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**Author:** ![Ana\_Vyr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ana_vyr/32/204324_2.png) [@Ana\_Vyr](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ana_Vyr)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2020, 4:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/we-should-have-a-capital-ships-maintenance-system/240433/79 "2020-05-15T16:13:25Z")

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I’ve been playing off and on since 2008 as a high sec industrialist, mainly. I tried the nullsec Corp thing for a while and hated it…way too many demands on my playtime. I have found that I just prefer solo play even though the game is kinda not pushing that direction much, and still isnt. That’s fine, I choose to subscribe anyways. The challenges for a solo player are robust. I like to do all my own mining, research and manufacturing, hauling, and exploration. I ran a POS for a while to make a blueprint library when research in stations was not a thing.

I like Eve because it’s complicated and requires planning and research to do things, which is a fairly different approach than many games these days that try to dumb everything down.

Fly safe, folks.

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**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2020, 4:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/we-should-have-a-capital-ships-maintenance-system/240433/80 "2020-05-15T16:16:34Z")

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Bad idea in the wrong forum, goes to the symptom not the cause.

Would make the problem worse because if the cost was meaningful only large corps would be able to afford it.

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**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2020, 4:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/we-should-have-a-capital-ships-maintenance-system/240433/81 "2020-08-13T16:16:40Z")

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