# Welcome to Space Griefing AKA Eve Online **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [February 1, 2024, 2:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/welcome-to-space-griefing-aka-eve-online/438106 "2024-02-01T02:02:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Eloken\_Toralen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eloken_toralen/32/401714_2.png) [@Eloken\_Toralen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eloken_Toralen)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2024, 11:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/welcome-to-space-griefing-aka-eve-online/438106/21 "2024-02-02T11:24:49Z")
> [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > Why would I want to waste my time on you ? You PvP your way, I have mine. Every minute you are in here arguing with my sorry ass is a few more people not dying to your menagerie of accounts. ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2024, 11:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/welcome-to-space-griefing-aka-eve-online/438106/22 "2024-02-02T11:35:48Z")
> [@Eloken\_Toralen](#): > > Every minute you are in here arguing with my sorry ass is a few more people not dying to your menagerie of accounts. Meh…I was on for 8 hours yesterday in 3 long missions one after the other. There will be more glorious death and carnage later today from The Menagerie. Hey, I like the new name. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2024, 11:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/welcome-to-space-griefing-aka-eve-online/438106/23 "2024-02-02T11:48:34Z")
> [@Eloken\_Toralen](#): > > Every minute you are in here arguing with my sorry ass is a few more people not dying to your menagerie of accounts. I hope you’re using a VPN for this. ---
**Author:** ![Wesfahrn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wesfahrn/32/392292_2.png) [@Wesfahrn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wesfahrn)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2024, 12:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/welcome-to-space-griefing-aka-eve-online/438106/24 "2024-02-02T12:07:59Z")
> when you undock, you might be blown out of the stars by anyone else, and they will laugh hysterically You make it sound as if no matter where you go you should expect to be blown up any moment, but if that was true nobody would play the game ---
**Author:** ![Electric\_Meatball](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/electric_meatball/32/409595_2.png) [@Electric\_Meatball](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Electric_Meatball)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2024, 3:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/welcome-to-space-griefing-aka-eve-online/438106/25 "2024-02-02T15:27:52Z")
It already is true, always has been. ---
**Author:** ![Ulysses\_Redmane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ulysses_redmane/32/410129_2.png) [@Ulysses\_Redmane](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ulysses_Redmane)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2024, 7:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/welcome-to-space-griefing-aka-eve-online/438106/26 "2024-02-02T19:29:24Z")
> [@Wesfahrn](#): > > You make it sound as if no matter where you go you should expect to be blown up any moment, but if that was true nobody would play the game The common maxim for most players is “Never undock anything you aren’t willing to lose.” Frankly I like the Wormholer version better: “Any ship you [fly]…should be considered already lost.” ---
**Author:** ![Eloken\_Toralen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eloken_toralen/32/401714_2.png) [@Eloken\_Toralen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eloken_Toralen)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2024, 6:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/welcome-to-space-griefing-aka-eve-online/438106/27 "2024-02-03T06:59:52Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > I hope you’re using a VPN for this. Is that a threat? ---
**Author:** ![Wadiest\_Yong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wadiest_yong/32/426921_2.png) [@Wadiest\_Yong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wadiest_Yong)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2024, 11:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/welcome-to-space-griefing-aka-eve-online/438106/28 "2024-02-03T11:02:44Z")
> [@Wesfahrn](#): > > You make it sound as if no matter where you go you should expect to be blown up any moment, but if that was true nobody would play the game LOL. Return to “start” and read the link below. Attentively … > [@8 Golden Rules for EVE Online](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/8-golden-rules-for-eve-online/3973): > > [image] These are based on [Akita T’s Golden rules for new players](https://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=588605), originally published on the old forums. Be able to afford a loss Never fly something (or with something in the cargo) you can’t afford to lose. Yes, not even in highsec. Meaning that you should not fly a ship you cannot afford to replace and refit. Consent to PvP You consent to PvP when you click “undock”. You are not safe in 1.0 security space. [CONCORD](https://support.eveonline.com/hc/en-us/articles/203208902-CONCORD) is there to punish, not to protect. Get used to the idea. In most case… ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2024, 11:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/welcome-to-space-griefing-aka-eve-online/438106/29 "2024-05-03T11:03:41Z")
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