# Welcome to the Agency - Feedback

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/welcome-to-the-agency-feedback/10824>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Tags:** agency\
**Created:** [July 18, 2017, 12:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/welcome-to-the-agency-feedback/10824 "2017-07-18T12:13:09Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Jeremiah\_Saken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jeremiah_saken/32/266740_2.png) [@Jeremiah\_Saken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jeremiah_Saken)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2017, 5:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/welcome-to-the-agency-feedback/10824/190 "2017-07-26T05:59:56Z")

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> [@Thursday\_Park-Laine](#):
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> You are right, “daylies” are quite the opposite of the sandbox idea. But this is the feedback thread for a daily and I don’t get why you seem to think dailies for newbies are worse than what we have now. I even counter your statement and say that the agency has more purpose for new players than it has for older ones as those hopefully found something to do on their own.
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> And what is it with those silly “EVE is not for you” lash outs? Seem to be a reflex of a certain kind of player. Most MMOs have this kind of demarcation, but in EVE it seems to be more than usual. No worries, I don’t take it personally. EVE is only for the bravest, OK. Guess you guys need it.

but Agency are dailies. We had idea like this before and it was scraped, now they want to sell it all over again. So what the purpose here? More players in space? What next? Attack player in lowsec? Start a war with other corporation?

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**Author:** ![Max\_Deveron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/max_deveron/32/245870_2.png) [@Max\_Deveron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Max_Deveron)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2017, 7:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/welcome-to-the-agency-feedback/10824/191 "2017-07-26T07:27:38Z")

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resizing the window is no longer working for me.  
If i dont get this fixed and we dont get a time extension i wont be able to complete this event, and i want my tengu skin.

Also ive always gotten confused trying to to do your bug reports on how to make them an have put a petition instead for a missing Agency Tank booster II on another account, if i dont get the 4 plex tomorrow on it im going to be real pissed.

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**Author:** ![Thursday\_Park-Laine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/thursday_park-laine/32/47244_2.png) [@Thursday\_Park-Laine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Thursday_Park-Laine)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2017, 7:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/welcome-to-the-agency-feedback/10824/192 "2017-07-26T07:51:36Z")

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> [@Jeremiah\_Saken](#):
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> but Agency are dailies. We had idea like this before and it was scraped, now they want to sell it all over again. So what the purpose here? More players in space? What next? Attack player in lowsec? Start a war with other corporation?

Yes, the Agency is a daily and this is the feedback thread about it. We are on the same page here, but you didn’t get my point: Based on the fact that CCP already made it I suggested to make it more newbie friendly as veteran player in a sandbox game should know how to spend their time.

It’s a feedback thread not an “unspecific ranting” thread… If someone makes a poll whether the already imported cars on a new island should drive on the right or on the left side “leave the island if you need a car - real man ride horses” may be a valid opinion but not helping with the immanent problem of crashing cars.

And about your question what could be next: What would be wrong with a salty “wardecks 75% off” week or a little bonus for the first lowsec fight of the day, double if you win?

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**Author:** ![Aerious](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aerious/32/287472_2.png) [@Aerious](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aerious)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2017, 8:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/welcome-to-the-agency-feedback/10824/193 "2017-07-26T08:00:51Z")

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My timer is stuck now for nearly 10 hours without reseting, and no CCP intervention, it sucks having to do 50 odd jumps to empire to do there events from drone lands ( **unable to complete some of the events in drone region** )and no timer reset. I aint going to bother with a bug report, it’s a bit like petitions, they’ll get round to it next year.

CCP fix this ■■■■ plz 😉

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**Author:** ![Markus\_Jameson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/markus_jameson/32/12581_2.png) [@Markus\_Jameson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Markus_Jameson)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2017, 8:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/welcome-to-the-agency-feedback/10824/194 "2017-07-26T08:01:36Z")

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> [@CCP\_Dragon](#):
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> please let us know your thoughts on the Agency.

Confusing, at least the Strategic Enforcement one is…

It says I have to use a t3 cruiser & I’m an alpha so I can’t.

That’s not the confusing bit though, the confusing bit is it’s telling me I’ve killed 1 of the 10 pirates required, that’s the confusing part.

How did I do that?

Because I don’t have a t3 cruiser 🙂

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**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2017, 8:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/welcome-to-the-agency-feedback/10824/195 "2017-07-26T08:03:22Z")

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No daily will hold any newbie in the game if the game is not newbie friendly in all its glory, mechanics, missions, difficulty of combat, rules and big no-no’s.  
EVE never was newbie friendly, its too complicated for newbie to be of easy adoption and even most primitive daily system will not help much. Newbie still plays the same complex game we all play.

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**Author:** ![Turnip\_K](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/turnip_k/32/15239_2.png) [@Turnip\_K](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Turnip_K)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2017, 8:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/welcome-to-the-agency-feedback/10824/196 "2017-07-26T08:10:51Z")

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I’m pretty when you kill a pirate that someone in a T3 Cruiser has damaged, it’s counts as though you were the one in the T3 Cruisr.

I noticed the same thing happening when I was running a combat site alongside a tengu.

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**Author:** ![Markus\_Jameson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/markus_jameson/32/12581_2.png) [@Markus\_Jameson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Markus_Jameson)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2017, 8:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/welcome-to-the-agency-feedback/10824/197 "2017-07-26T08:23:56Z")

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Aha… that could be it yes, thanks for that.

CCP \o/

Can we have a ruling please, assuming that _is_ what’s happened do you consider it an exploit?

Because if not I’m going to go stalk some t3 cruisers 😉

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**Author:** ![Jeremiah\_Saken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jeremiah_saken/32/266740_2.png) [@Jeremiah\_Saken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jeremiah_Saken)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2017, 9:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/welcome-to-the-agency-feedback/10824/198 "2017-07-26T09:14:21Z")

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> [@Thursday\_Park-Laine](#):
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> Yes, the Agency is a daily and this is the feedback thread about it. We are on the same page here, but you didn’t get my point: Based on the fact that CCP already made it I suggested to make it more newbie friendly as veteran player in a sandbox game should know how to spend their time.
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> It’s a feedback thread not an “unspecific ranting” thread… If someone makes a poll whether the already imported cars on a new island should drive on the right or on the left side “leave the island if you need a car - real man ride horses” may be a valid opinion but not helping with the immanent problem of crashing cars.
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> And about your question what could be next: What would be wrong with a salty “wardecks 75% off” week or a little bonus for the first lowsec fight of the day, double if you win?

No, the thread is about what we are thinking about the agency, and I think it’s crap. The fact that most agency dailies will be done by me because that is what I do in the game then why should I be rewarded by actions I will do anyway? Question is what is the purpose here? To do what exactly? Grind for rewards? Make people undock? Why people should undock if that is not their gameplay anyway (industrialist, traders) etc.? It’s a sandbox game if players can find a place here and devs are needed to make them entertained rather than making new tools for players to interfere with each other or balancing then something is very wrong here. I have a feeling that some people don’t know what “sandbox” mean. I don’t even want discuss your horrible unbalanced ideas.

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**Author:** ![Thursday\_Park-Laine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/thursday_park-laine/32/47244_2.png) [@Thursday\_Park-Laine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Thursday_Park-Laine)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2017, 9:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/welcome-to-the-agency-feedback/10824/199 "2017-07-26T09:16:20Z")

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> [@Jeremiah\_Saken](#):
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> I have a feeling that some people don’t know what “sandbox” mean

I am sorry. I misjudged your capability to comprehend.

The Agency is just an option and does not lessen the other options available in the game. And I repeat that I see it mostly suited for newer players. Older players -as you concurred- should not need such handholding. And even if they participated regardless, I can’t see what harm could be done to the playstyle of the players that just ignore the event altogether.

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**Author:** ![Jeremiah\_Saken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jeremiah_saken/32/266740_2.png) [@Jeremiah\_Saken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jeremiah_Saken)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2017, 9:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/welcome-to-the-agency-feedback/10824/200 "2017-07-26T09:30:23Z")

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> [@Thursday\_Park-Laine](#):
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> The Agency is just an option and does not lessen the other options available in the game.

Apparently I’ll have rewards from it anyway. Why? I didn’t choose to participate, it was decided by someone else. Last “event” was purely, not, chosen by me. Get it? How “sandboxy” is that? Players should choose what they want to do with their “sand”. And again what is the purpose for the agency? It’s not for newbies not for anybody not shooting rats, for whom it is? To test T3C after the changes?

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**Author:** ![Thursday\_Park-Laine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/thursday_park-laine/32/47244_2.png) [@Thursday\_Park-Laine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Thursday_Park-Laine)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2017, 9:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/welcome-to-the-agency-feedback/10824/201 "2017-07-26T09:43:08Z")

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> [@Jeremiah\_Saken](#):
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> Apparently I’ll have rewards from it anyway. Why? I didn’t choose to participate, it was decided by someone else. Last “event” was purely, not, chosen by me. Get it?

Now you are making things up just for the sake of an argument. You got rewards that you didn’t want to have. _I can clearly see the problem with that._

If you take your time to read what the DEVs wrote about the event you could make the educated guess that is furthermost a test for this kind of game mechanic. Like the Xmas boxes were a test for that kind of reward. Could have been a bit more Sisi and less live server testing. But it is just one more tool for the game designers to go with. Like all the other PVE mechanics are too. Your standpoint makes me think you want to get rid of mission rewards and incursions too.

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**Author:** ![Jeremiah\_Saken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jeremiah_saken/32/266740_2.png) [@Jeremiah\_Saken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jeremiah_Saken)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2017, 9:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/welcome-to-the-agency-feedback/10824/202 "2017-07-26T09:44:57Z")

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🙄

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**Author:** ![Max\_Deveron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/max_deveron/32/245870_2.png) [@Max\_Deveron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Max_Deveron)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2017, 9:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/welcome-to-the-agency-feedback/10824/203 "2017-07-26T09:53:29Z")

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Right now the biggest issue I am having is not having the challenges reset properly, like why is this bug?

I really do want the tengu skin because im reminded of another event, where not even half of the Crimson Harvest skins were dropped, and only a select few were hidden behind pricey package deals for arum, plex, subs…if any left on the market the Oracle one comes to mind at 1 billion or more…

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**Author:** ![CCP\_Sledgehammer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ccp_sledgehammer/32/345741_2.png) [@CCP\_Sledgehammer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/CCP_Sledgehammer)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2017, 10:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/welcome-to-the-agency-feedback/10824/204 "2017-07-26T10:27:12Z")

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We found the problem with the rewards being gifted, a fix is in the works.

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**Author:** ![Chan\_aar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chan_aar/32/377560_2.png) [@Chan\_aar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chan_aar)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2017, 10:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/welcome-to-the-agency-feedback/10824/205 "2017-07-26T10:37:22Z")

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Did you try clearing your cache? It seems to be 50/50 at fixing this, but it must be worth the 5 mins it takes.

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**Author:** ![Aerious](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aerious/32/287472_2.png) [@Aerious](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aerious)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2017, 11:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/welcome-to-the-agency-feedback/10824/206 "2017-07-26T11:53:23Z")

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Clearing cache worked for me also, but i think CCP should hire better Beta Testers \ QA Tech’s cause there are a lot of bugs sipping through the cracks lately.

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**Author:** ![Chan\_aar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chan_aar/32/377560_2.png) [@Chan\_aar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chan_aar)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2017, 2:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/welcome-to-the-agency-feedback/10824/207 "2017-07-26T14:33:56Z")

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Good to know.

Soon™?

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**Author:** ![CCP\_Sledgehammer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ccp_sledgehammer/32/345741_2.png) [@CCP\_Sledgehammer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/CCP_Sledgehammer)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2017, 3:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/welcome-to-the-agency-feedback/10824/208 "2017-07-26T15:42:15Z")

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Testing the fix for the awarding as we speak. After that I am testing the redemption script to give the items out to people that missed them. All things going to plan both will be in tomorrow’s patch, but there’s a small possibility the redemption of missed items will be the day after.

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**Author:** ![Erebus\_TheChin\_Sundance](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/erebus_thechin_sundance/32/375165_2.png) [@Erebus\_TheChin\_Sundance](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Erebus_TheChin_Sundance)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2017, 5:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/welcome-to-the-agency-feedback/10824/210 "2017-07-26T17:34:06Z")

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I have by chance found another fix for the 0 timer challenges, though it is somewhat longer.

1. It needs to be a Friday, you need to complete all available challenges.

You then close the client, making sure you dock or log off safely.

1. You slowly start the labourious process of packing the car with camping gear and enough food for a week for yourself and children.

2. You drive for 8 hours in direction of Cornwall, constantly have to pull over for the clan to pee and get lost a few times before reaching the campsite and pitching the operations forward base.

3. Revel.

4. Pack up badly almost breaking a tent pole and return home as fast as possible without a attracting police attention.

5. Feed and hose down clan. Sleep.

When you awaken, log into and load up the eve client. All challenges should now have reset.

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