# What a joke this edoncom/trig standings we're being MADE to do! **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [July 16, 2020, 8:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-a-joke-this-edoncom-trig-standings-were-being-made-to-do/255178 "2020-07-16T08:09:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Ragnar\_Cheiften](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ragnar_cheiften/32/209849_2.png) [@Ragnar\_Cheiften](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ragnar_Cheiften)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2020, 8:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-a-joke-this-edoncom-trig-standings-were-being-made-to-do/255178/1 "2020-07-16T08:09:33Z")
Why on earth are we being forced to stop our game play style and waste time on going to shoot rats to then not get shot by other rats??? CCP i pay to play this game not pay for you to tell me what to do. I think you should be looking to make paying clients happy not annoy them with making them waste their day setting standings so they can freely move around the game. ---
**Author:** ![Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zhalyd_lyehin/32/358574_2.png) [@Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zhalyd_Lyehin)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2020, 8:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-a-joke-this-edoncom-trig-standings-were-being-made-to-do/255178/2 "2020-07-16T08:31:22Z")
šŸ”“ What do you expect? Competent, comprehensive, fun content that actually holds up to CCPā€™s statements and promises? [https://youtu.be/CIF9uBqSNhY?t=18](https://youtu.be/CIF9uBqSNhY?t=18) These invasions are so shallow, so annoying, so lacking depth and actual ā€œhard choicesā€ (as CCP proclaimed players would have to make in trailers, twitch announcements and dev blogs full of lies). The only thing these invasions do provide is frustration and wasted time. What are you? Living under a rock? This invasion crap is forced gameplay without any rewards and fun that you cannot afford to ignore or else you screw yourself over hundred times as the stats from Inaya and other MV systems show. CCP does not give you a sensible choice here so suck it up and make sure you at least save your activity area as much as you can. I hope you have deep pockets because you will need them or else you run out of ISK quick. I wasted 10B in that crap already and every time I thought I could get a little bit of fun out of this garbage, the invasion made it suddenly impossible to have the fun I was seeking. ---
**Author:** ![Ragnar\_Cheiften](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ragnar_cheiften/32/209849_2.png) [@Ragnar\_Cheiften](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ragnar_Cheiften)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2020, 8:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-a-joke-this-edoncom-trig-standings-were-being-made-to-do/255178/3 "2020-07-16T08:40:45Z")
Who the F lives under a rock come on kid this isnt fraggle rock! I pvp thats all i do and if needed i use Ā£Ā£Ā£ to play eve. ---
**Author:** ![Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zhalyd_lyehin/32/358574_2.png) [@Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zhalyd_Lyehin)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2020, 8:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-a-joke-this-edoncom-trig-standings-were-being-made-to-do/255178/4 "2020-07-16T08:55:39Z")
šŸ”“ Then better make sure you safe your systems where you make money. By living under a rock I mean that you seriously expect CCP to do good game design. They have not done so in years. _Many years._ ---
**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2020, 10:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-a-joke-this-edoncom-trig-standings-were-being-made-to-do/255178/5 "2020-07-16T10:56:04Z")
Standings having depth and players having a ā€˜stake in the gameā€™. Indeed it sucks that theyā€™ve gone the theme park route. But itā€™s better than nothing. ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2020, 4:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-a-joke-this-edoncom-trig-standings-were-being-made-to-do/255178/6 "2020-07-16T16:14:37Z")
i didnā€™t bother so far im with you, i am a pvp guy , nothing against shooting some npcs but learning what to do and going out of your way to do it is for the mission runners šŸ˜  ---
**Author:** ![Vals\_Loeder](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vals_loeder/32/192416_2.png) [@Vals\_Loeder](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vals_Loeder)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2020, 4:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-a-joke-this-edoncom-trig-standings-were-being-made-to-do/255178/7 "2020-07-16T16:25:32Z")
> [@Ragnar\_Cheiften](#): > > are we being forced REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!! How are you forced? ---
**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2020, 4:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-a-joke-this-edoncom-trig-standings-were-being-made-to-do/255178/8 "2020-07-16T16:28:51Z")
> [@Daichi\_Yamato](#): > > Indeed it sucks that theyā€™ve gone the theme park route. What sucks is they are burning their bridges behind them and the rides, compared to other theme park games, kinda suck. ---
**Author:** ![Serene\_Repose](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/serene_repose/32/384960_2.png) [@Serene\_Repose](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Serene_Repose)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2020, 4:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-a-joke-this-edoncom-trig-standings-were-being-made-to-do/255178/9 "2020-07-16T16:56:36Z")
Itā€™s the youth of today. Get new blood in and they start dreaming up new ideas, you know, the ideas we evolved beyond a few centuries ago. Oh yes, reading isnā€™t cool. So, reading history must beā€¦you do the math. ---
**Author:** ![Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zhalyd_lyehin/32/358574_2.png) [@Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zhalyd_Lyehin)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2020, 6:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-a-joke-this-edoncom-trig-standings-were-being-made-to-do/255178/10 "2020-07-16T18:16:40Z")
šŸ”“ > [@Daichi\_Yamato](#): > > Standings having depth and players having a ā€˜stake in the gameā€™. Standings have no depth at all. If you have negative Edencom standing, you have virtually not a single downside outside Edencom systems. You can even have -0.01 to Edencom and +0.01 to Trigs and that makes you neutral with both sides. There is nothing deep in these standings. > [@Daichi\_Yamato](#): > > players having a ā€˜stake in the gameā€™. Sov null sec exists for 17 years. Players always have been having a stake in the game. What changed is that CCP now introduced, to date, irreversible sec status and sov changes to space that was doing just fine in order to screw over that space for no good reason, without any good rewards and just because of CCPā€™s level of imagination. ---
**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2020, 9:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-a-joke-this-edoncom-trig-standings-were-being-made-to-do/255178/11 "2020-07-16T21:37:07Z")
Thatā€™s more depth in standings than before. And CCP are bringing stakes in the game to hi-sec. Cause braindead farming is bad mkay. ---
**Author:** ![Nevyn\_Auscent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nevyn_auscent/32/255124_2.png) [@Nevyn\_Auscent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nevyn_Auscent)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2020, 12:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-a-joke-this-edoncom-trig-standings-were-being-made-to-do/255178/13 "2020-07-17T00:54:03Z")
I wasnā€™t aware shooting a single rat once ever was such a hardship. ---
**Author:** ![Clyde\_ElectraGlide](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/clyde_electraglide/32/389606_2.png) [@Clyde\_ElectraGlide](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Clyde_ElectraGlide)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2020, 1:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-a-joke-this-edoncom-trig-standings-were-being-made-to-do/255178/14 "2020-07-17T01:08:32Z")
You do realise that you only need to shoot an Edencom rat once to not be touched by either faction, right? Itā€™s a dumb loophole, but a loophole nonetheless. It would be nice if Edencom went red to you the moment you become neutral with Trigs though. ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2020, 3:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-a-joke-this-edoncom-trig-standings-were-being-made-to-do/255178/16 "2020-07-17T03:12:52Z")
> [@Clyde\_ElectraGlide](#): > > You do realise that you only need to shoot an Edencom rat once to not be touched by either faction, right? > > Itā€™s a dumb loophole, but a loophole nonetheless. It would be nice if Edencom went red to you the moment you become neutral with Trigs though. yes you are right but on the other hand people that never were involved in the edencom vs trig shenanigans could be neutral to both it would eliminate the need to shot one edencom ship which yourself admitted that is a stupid ritual ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2020, 3:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-a-joke-this-edoncom-trig-standings-were-being-made-to-do/255178/17 "2020-07-17T03:16:05Z")
It is funny that both sides have nearly-invincible sentry guns, but they donā€™t bother to anchor them until they have already won. ---
**Author:** ![Tintallei\_Sharan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tintallei_sharan/32/373000_2.png) [@Tintallei\_Sharan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tintallei_Sharan)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2020, 4:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-a-joke-this-edoncom-trig-standings-were-being-made-to-do/255178/18 "2020-07-17T04:36:27Z")
LMAO An High-sec wardecer, one of the less efficient that EvE has ever seen on top of that, crying about not being able to deal with some NPC. This post is priceless. Keep it up. ---
**Author:** ![Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zhalyd_lyehin/32/358574_2.png) [@Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zhalyd_Lyehin)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2020, 5:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-a-joke-this-edoncom-trig-standings-were-being-made-to-do/255178/19 "2020-07-17T05:25:31Z")
šŸ”“ > [@Daichi\_Yamato](#): > > Thatā€™s more depth in standings than before. Where? Before, you would get hunted by facpo if you have negative standings with a faction. Now, with this new system you can just keep farming as if nothing happened. Where is the more depth? > [@Daichi\_Yamato](#): > > Cause braindead farming is bad mkay. They reintroduced that with the new anoms in MV systems. You are back at braindead farming like in incursions. ---
**Author:** ![Master\_Armorcav](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/master_armorcav/32/219013_2.png) [@Master\_Armorcav](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Master_Armorcav)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2020, 5:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-a-joke-this-edoncom-trig-standings-were-being-made-to-do/255178/20 "2020-07-17T05:27:19Z")
with the number of players tanking year after year you would think CCP/Eveonline would try to ask the players that played from the start what the issue was. But No, so CCP will scratch their heads and watch the number keep dropping. ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2020, 5:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-a-joke-this-edoncom-trig-standings-were-being-made-to-do/255178/21 "2020-07-17T05:28:45Z")
> [@Master\_Armorcav](#): > > tanking year after year Citation needed. ---
**Author:** ![Master\_Armorcav](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/master_armorcav/32/219013_2.png) [@Master\_Armorcav](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Master_Armorcav)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2020, 5:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-a-joke-this-edoncom-trig-standings-were-being-made-to-do/255178/22 "2020-07-17T05:29:16Z")
u understand what Tanking means? [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-a-joke-this-edoncom-trig-standings-were-being-made-to-do/255178.md?page=2)