# What are the top alliances doing to combat botting?

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-are-the-top-alliances-doing-to-combat-botting/238218>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [May 4, 2020, 7:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-are-the-top-alliances-doing-to-combat-botting/238218 "2020-05-04T19:04:45Z")\
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**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2020, 7:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-are-the-top-alliances-doing-to-combat-botting/238218/21 "2020-05-04T19:23:33Z")

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> [@Shark\_Bait](#):
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> Sounds like your happy withe the current bottling situation

I am actually.

CCP has done some great work and they’re continuing to do so.

[![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/d/b/dbe889d1d1b503777e47c347599fee1014da49c9.jpeg "EVE Vegas 2019 - Data & Botting") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLRuKopYNXw)

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**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2020, 7:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-are-the-top-alliances-doing-to-combat-botting/238218/22 "2020-05-04T19:24:26Z")

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@QuakeGod LOL love this gif  
wen i was in goons ppl didn’t talked about it like it was a problem  
and i never notice bots  
but i could be wrong about it i admit

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**Author:** ![you\_are\_evil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/you_are_evil/32/246754_2.png) [@you\_are\_evil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/you_are_evil)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2020, 7:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-are-the-top-alliances-doing-to-combat-botting/238218/23 "2020-05-04T19:25:29Z")

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There are almost no bots by Goons in Delve for one simple reason.

There are simply too many Neuts on the way, so that replacing the lost ships would be worthwhile.

Afk-Botting exists, but what else can you do if you are not allowed to use carrier or super to rat?

Before the patch I used Super, now I run 3-4 Myrmidons/Dominix every evening in semi Afk mode.

PS: There are other small vermin, mostly a few days old, with a destroyer and a couple of salvagers who are busy clearing the wraks before you leave the site. Mostly with sign language in the title…  
But they’re not bots either… unfortunately.

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**Author:** ![Shark\_Bait](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shark_bait/32/174708_2.png) [@Shark\_Bait](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shark_Bait)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2020, 7:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-are-the-top-alliances-doing-to-combat-botting/238218/24 "2020-05-04T19:25:46Z")

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But you dont want the main botting alliances to be proactive ?

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**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2020, 7:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-are-the-top-alliances-doing-to-combat-botting/238218/25 "2020-05-04T19:26:02Z")

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Please tell me how an alliance can be “pro-active” first.

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**Author:** ![you\_are\_evil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/you_are_evil/32/246754_2.png) [@you\_are\_evil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/you_are_evil)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2020, 7:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-are-the-top-alliances-doing-to-combat-botting/238218/26 "2020-05-04T19:28:29Z")

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> [@Shark\_Bait](#):
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> the main botting alliances

what are they?

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**Author:** ![God\_Emperor\_Kane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/god_emperor_kane/32/399336_2.png) [@God\_Emperor\_Kane](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/God_Emperor_Kane)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2020, 7:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-are-the-top-alliances-doing-to-combat-botting/238218/27 "2020-05-04T19:28:42Z")

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Don’t… your talking to an idiot. They normally drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

I don’t think he understand it is not an alliance issue to solve, suspected bots must be reported, not kicked and whatever punishment CCP deems fit, enforced.

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**Author:** ![Shark\_Bait](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shark_bait/32/174708_2.png) [@Shark\_Bait](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shark_Bait)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2020, 8:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-are-the-top-alliances-doing-to-combat-botting/238218/28 "2020-05-04T20:23:53Z")

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wow another pro botter

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**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2020, 8:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-are-the-top-alliances-doing-to-combat-botting/238218/29 "2020-05-04T20:30:16Z")

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How does understanding that banning botters is CCP’s job and not the players suggest that they are “pro botter” ?

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**Author:** ![Xan\_Viona](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xan_viona/32/307582_2.png) [@Xan\_Viona](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xan_Viona)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2020, 8:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-are-the-top-alliances-doing-to-combat-botting/238218/30 "2020-05-04T20:33:47Z")

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How can an Alliance know if it’s a computerized bot fleet or some guy eating popcorn watching Netflix with 30 rorqs running and not watching local.  
You can only report suspicious activity and let CCP analyze the data.

Also, the title “main botting alliances” is just off track.

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**Author:** ![Shark\_Bait](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shark_bait/32/174708_2.png) [@Shark\_Bait](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shark_Bait)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2020, 8:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-are-the-top-alliances-doing-to-combat-botting/238218/31 "2020-05-04T20:35:13Z")

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Because ccp banning botters purely relies on people reporting them, If people are not actively sniffing these C\*nts out and reporting them then they are either happy to turn a blind eye or botters themselves

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**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2020, 8:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-are-the-top-alliances-doing-to-combat-botting/238218/32 "2020-05-04T20:36:37Z")

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> [@Shark\_Bait](#):
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> Because ccp banning botters purely relies on people reporting them

This is wrong.

> [@Shark\_Bait](#):
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> If people are not actively sniffing these C\*nts out and reporting them then they are either happy to turn a blind eye or botters themselves

But that’s not how CCP bans bots.

You don’t seem to understand how the process works. Which is probably why you seem to be coming up with really weird suggestions.

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**Author:** ![Jayce\_Fitzpatrick](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jayce_fitzpatrick/32/383289_2.png) [@Jayce\_Fitzpatrick](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jayce_Fitzpatrick)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2020, 8:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-are-the-top-alliances-doing-to-combat-botting/238218/33 "2020-05-04T20:36:46Z")

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You can safely assume that CCP have additional monitoring systems behind the scenes. They are not going to release how these systems work for obvious reasons. You can stop being a dimwit now.

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**Author:** ![Forum\_Posting\_Alt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/forum_posting_alt/32/254303_2.png) [@Forum\_Posting\_Alt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Forum_Posting_Alt)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2020, 8:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-are-the-top-alliances-doing-to-combat-botting/238218/34 "2020-05-04T20:36:47Z")

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What are they doing? Raking in the $£isk - simple as…

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**Author:** ![Shark\_Bait](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shark_bait/32/174708_2.png) [@Shark\_Bait](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shark_Bait)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2020, 8:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-are-the-top-alliances-doing-to-combat-botting/238218/35 "2020-05-04T20:40:37Z")

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So your happy that its all working perfectly and nothing needs to change ?

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**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2020, 8:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-are-the-top-alliances-doing-to-combat-botting/238218/36 "2020-05-04T20:42:47Z")

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Now you’re just moving goalposts.  
When did I say it was “working perfectly” and that “nothing needs to change”?

You still haven’t answered my question, how should alliances be “proactive”? Do you have any suggestions other than “chat with them”?

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**Author:** ![Shark\_Bait](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shark_bait/32/174708_2.png) [@Shark\_Bait](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shark_Bait)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2020, 8:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-are-the-top-alliances-doing-to-combat-botting/238218/38 "2020-05-04T20:46:03Z")

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The thread was started to start a discussion, the title ask the question. Because I want to know what is being done. If nothing is being done then this needs to change, discussion generates ideas.

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**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2020, 8:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-are-the-top-alliances-doing-to-combat-botting/238218/39 "2020-05-04T20:46:48Z")

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> [@Shark\_Bait](#):
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> Because I want to know what is being done.

I linked a video where CCP explains what’s being done.

> [@Shark\_Bait](#):
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> If nothing is being done then this needs to change, discussion generates ideas.

Good thing there is something being done then and we don’t need to rely on your “just convo them and see if they reply” idea. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2020, 8:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-are-the-top-alliances-doing-to-combat-botting/238218/40 "2020-05-04T20:47:19Z")

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> [@Shark\_Bait](#):
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> bots wont answer and convo invite and have a chat im guessing

It’s a poor measure of whether someone is botting or not.

Some people don’t want to talk and don’t have to just to satisfy your curiosity. And a bot can be taught to make generic conversation and even read your text for specific replies.

> [@Shark\_Bait](#):
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> If people are not actively sniffing these C\*nts

They are. But it involves a lot more nuance than inviting someone to convo. It’s not something you can standardise and mass implement because anything standardised can be ‘botted’.

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**Author:** ![Shark\_Bait](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shark_bait/32/174708_2.png) [@Shark\_Bait](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shark_Bait)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2020, 8:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-are-the-top-alliances-doing-to-combat-botting/238218/41 "2020-05-04T20:47:52Z")

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i know what ccp is doing want to know what the alliances are doing.

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