# What are your thoughts on sarcity? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [July 7, 2021, 6:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-are-your-thoughts-on-sarcity/319147 "2021-07-07T18:22:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2021, 6:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-are-your-thoughts-on-sarcity/319147/101 "2021-07-08T18:45:13Z")
You mentioned man made fire. Man causes that for his profit. Cows are much more profitable than some young saplings and some frogs. ---
**Author:** ![Siegfried\_Tahl](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/siegfried_tahl/32/377209_2.png) [@Siegfried\_Tahl](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Siegfried_Tahl)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2021, 6:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-are-your-thoughts-on-sarcity/319147/102 "2021-07-08T18:45:14Z")
Correct me if I’m wrong, during Blackout players outrage was mostly due to no local. Ratters couldn’t rat and stopped logging in, and hunters couldn’t hunt because of that. But there was also Drifter invasion at that time, and people did show up for timers and did fight Drifters. Why couldn’t CCP try burn mineral stashes, supers and such that way. Drifter invasion 2.0. They could make them bash structures, loot, build their hives, which would hold part of loot. For anyone to claim. Like ESS. Redistribution phase. ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Epeen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_epeen/32/373308_2.png) [@Mr\_Epeen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Epeen)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2021, 6:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-are-your-thoughts-on-sarcity/319147/103 "2021-07-08T18:47:05Z")
> [@Daichi\_Yamato](#): > > > [@Nana\_Skalski](#): > > > > Usually when man is going to burn forest, the result will be cows grazing on flatland and all the forest gone for good together with all the exotic species. > > Ummmmm no. > > The forest regrows without all the dead trees and debris getting in the way. I’ve seen some stupid things things written in here by people without a clue trying to argue a position, but…Dude…WTF??? I could write a full thesis on how bad your take on this is. Mr Epeen 🕶 ---
**Author:** ![MajorBean](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/majorbean/32/382916_2.png) [@MajorBean](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MajorBean)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2021, 6:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-are-your-thoughts-on-sarcity/319147/104 "2021-07-08T18:48:38Z")
Respect to CCP for keeping course and and not giving in or caving to the mob who are crying to stop scarcity, most people wo left will come back. I have more fun now that i ever had with eve. Chaos era best era. CCP deserves one had pat for not giving in. Adapt or die, burn all the mineral staches and T2 BPOs. ---
**Author:** ![Siegfried\_Tahl](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/siegfried_tahl/32/377209_2.png) [@Siegfried\_Tahl](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Siegfried_Tahl)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2021, 6:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-are-your-thoughts-on-sarcity/319147/105 "2021-07-08T18:48:44Z")
> [@Daichi\_Yamato](#): > > The forest regrows without all the dead trees and debris getting in the way. Takes years to decades tho, innit? ---
**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2021, 6:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-are-your-thoughts-on-sarcity/319147/106 "2021-07-08T18:49:58Z")
> [@Nana\_Skalski](#): > > You mentioned man made fire. Man causes that for his profit. They also do it for forest and wildlife conservation. > **[Controlled burn](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controlled_burn)** > > A controlled burn or prescribed burn (Rx burn) is the practice of intentionally setting a fire to change the assemblage of vegetation and decaying material in a landscape. The purpose could be for forest management, ecological restoration, land clearing or wildfire fuel management. Controlled burns may also be referred to as hazard reduction burning, backfire, swailing or a burn-off. > Controlled burns are conducted during the cooler months to reduce fuel buildup and decrease the likelihood of mor... ---
**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2021, 6:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-are-your-thoughts-on-sarcity/319147/107 "2021-07-08T18:51:14Z")
> [@Siegfried\_Tahl](#): > > Takes years to decades tho, innit? Yeah this isn’t a **literal** forest fire. ---
**Author:** ![Siegfried\_Tahl](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/siegfried_tahl/32/377209_2.png) [@Siegfried\_Tahl](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Siegfried_Tahl)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2021, 6:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-are-your-thoughts-on-sarcity/319147/108 "2021-07-08T18:54:04Z")
> [@Daichi\_Yamato](#): > > Yeah this isn’t a **literal** forest fire. Might still take years to recover player count. ---
**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2021, 6:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-are-your-thoughts-on-sarcity/319147/109 "2021-07-08T18:54:11Z")
> [@Mr\_Epeen](#): > > I’ve seen some stupid things things written in here by people without a clue trying to argue a position, but…Dude…WTF??? > > I could write a full thesis on how bad your take on this is. This just sums you up. ---
**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2021, 6:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-are-your-thoughts-on-sarcity/319147/110 "2021-07-08T18:56:45Z")
Well it may. So CCP are playing the long game. That’s good! ---
**Author:** ![safira\_jomita](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/safira_jomita/32/405219_2.png) [@safira\_jomita](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/safira_jomita)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2021, 7:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-are-your-thoughts-on-sarcity/319147/111 "2021-07-08T19:16:58Z")
> [@FORCY\_FUNTIMES\_MEATWATER](#): > > You don’t think they’d just buy cheaper ships? Yeah and spoil the fun of flying what they think it’s FUN to fly. so ccp nerfing your fun at the game. If you are a hardcore player yeah y would use corvettes if needed but I don’t think majority of players fit into hardcore player base. There are other aspects of the game still more attractive or even other games … ---
**Author:** ![safira\_jomita](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/safira_jomita/32/405219_2.png) [@safira\_jomita](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/safira_jomita)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2021, 7:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-are-your-thoughts-on-sarcity/319147/112 "2021-07-08T19:18:17Z")
> [@MajorBean](#): > > Adapt or die, burn all the mineral staches and T2 BPOs. Same applies for mobile observatories? I see a lot of crying about taking that step back too ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2021, 7:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-are-your-thoughts-on-sarcity/319147/113 "2021-07-08T19:21:00Z")
For long game they would probably use sheep after removing all the trees, like it happened in Iceland before. > As in agrarian societies everywhere, the settlers began by cutting down the forests to create fields and grazing land. Sheep were important as a source of wool from the outset, but by about 1300 they had become a staple source of food for Icelanders as well. ---
**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2021, 10:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-are-your-thoughts-on-sarcity/319147/114 "2021-07-08T22:28:37Z")
Now you’re talking about **cutting** down forests. Like you couldn’t twist my analogy to your agenda so you created a whole new one… ---
**Author:** ![Algathas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/algathas/32/397229_2.png) [@Algathas](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Algathas)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2021, 6:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-are-your-thoughts-on-sarcity/319147/115 "2021-07-09T06:19:10Z")
> [@safira\_jomita](#): > > Yes it does. If a ship costs 5x more ppl won’t undock it often as they did before, so less content. The wanton dropping of caps reduced significantly prior to scarcity. Scarcity might make people use them even less for some purposes but it didn’t start the path of reduced droppings by a long shot. ---
**Author:** ![Sgt\_Ocker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sgt_ocker/32/270881_2.png) [@Sgt\_Ocker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sgt_Ocker)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2021, 7:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-are-your-thoughts-on-sarcity/319147/116 "2021-07-09T07:37:29Z")
> [@Mr\_Epeen](#): > > I could write a full thesis on how bad your take on this is. You really don’t have to, there are hundreds of papers available on the subject. Funny though how a fire happens to start and burns through 500 acres of previously untouched bushland, only to be “improved” by the owners as “pasture”. ---
**Author:** ![Trivianee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/trivianee/32/280197_2.png) [@Trivianee](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Trivianee)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2021, 9:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-are-your-thoughts-on-sarcity/319147/117 "2021-07-09T09:20:40Z")
CCP has officially rolled scarcity out to pilot numbers too. We are back to 2006ish levels of daily logins. Scarcity must end or EVE WILL DIE. ---
**Author:** ![safira\_jomita](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/safira_jomita/32/405219_2.png) [@safira\_jomita](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/safira_jomita)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2021, 10:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-are-your-thoughts-on-sarcity/319147/118 "2021-07-09T10:34:35Z")
> [@Algathas](#): > > The wanton dropping of caps reduced significantly prior to scarcity. Scarcity might make people use them even less for some purposes but it didn’t start the path of reduced droppings by a long shot. Um not worried about cap droppings even a bit. Caps are needed to hell already .they can be taken out by a small gang if they know what they doing ---
**Author:** ![Verlyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/verlyn/32/435163_2.png) [@Verlyn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Verlyn)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2021, 10:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-are-your-thoughts-on-sarcity/319147/119 "2021-07-09T10:38:02Z")
> [@Daichi\_Yamato](#): > > the long game. The long game, You mean PA’s long game. Eventually saving the day by selling us 0.99$ Orepacks. … Give it 4-6 months and we’ll see the same kind of ads on the launcher, it’s been habit ever since the PA sellout. ---
**Author:** ![safira\_jomita](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/safira_jomita/32/405219_2.png) [@safira\_jomita](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/safira_jomita)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2021, 10:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-are-your-thoughts-on-sarcity/319147/120 "2021-07-09T10:39:54Z")
> [@Kaivarian\_Coste](#): > > Higher-tier industry (faction ships, battleships etc) seem to be beyond the reach of casual and part-time industrialists. But I guess it means more reward for those industrialists who specialize or join a bloc I thought ccp wanted players to spread? why they making them gather to main blocks? > [@Kaivarian\_Coste](#): > > But I guess it means more reward for those industrialists who specialize or join a bloc. There are other areas of industry that are accessible for casual players. You can still make some isk by building t1 ships near low sec for example. been there for a long time. Even that market is going down as ppl are just not up to trow ships away like before [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-are-your-thoughts-on-sarcity/319147.md?page=5) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-are-your-thoughts-on-sarcity/319147.md?page=7)