# What considerations has CCP made for PvE after Resist nerf? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [April 9, 2020, 9:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380 "2020-04-09T21:14:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2020, 12:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380/196 "2020-04-17T12:09:36Z")
> [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > Actually getting more scan res is a good thing in that case, you’ll take only 20s to lock the webb drones instead of 30 Well there you go 🙂 But I am actually incompetent enough that sometimes they get close enough to shoot at me ---
**Author:** ![z0ra\_Berg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/z0ra_berg/32/187042_2.png) [@z0ra\_Berg](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/z0ra_Berg)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2020, 1:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380/197 "2020-04-17T13:29:36Z")
Maybe I should try running level4s again. Do you know a few system with lots of mission runners, where I can probe them down? ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2020, 1:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380/198 "2020-04-17T13:32:03Z")
Fish in a barrell would be to take the SoE arc, follow the route and check ages so you arent going to be hitting nubes. I hear Lisudeh is good this time of year. Fair amount of obscure L4 security givers in that region too. ---
**Author:** ![z0ra\_Berg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/z0ra_berg/32/187042_2.png) [@z0ra\_Berg](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/z0ra_Berg)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2020, 1:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380/199 "2020-04-17T13:34:36Z")
You’re saying I should use the map and check for NPC kills. Okay. 😁 ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2020, 1:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380/200 "2020-04-17T13:35:12Z")
Didnt want to tell you how to suck eggs lol ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2020, 3:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380/201 "2020-04-17T15:56:00Z")
> [@Bob\_Clark\_Terminator](#): > > yea i am out Good riddance. ---
**Author:** ![Herzog\_Wolfhammer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/herzog_wolfhammer/32/452132_2.png) [@Herzog\_Wolfhammer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Herzog_Wolfhammer)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2020, 3:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380/202 "2020-04-18T03:16:11Z")
My ox is pretty smart admittedly. ---
**Author:** ![Herzog\_Wolfhammer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/herzog_wolfhammer/32/452132_2.png) [@Herzog\_Wolfhammer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Herzog_Wolfhammer)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2020, 3:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380/203 "2020-04-18T03:21:17Z")
I used to run L4s on an alt with a dual buffed duel rep armor BS - and that was a PVP fit with web and scram. Oh I didn’t make 6 Billion ISK an hour. Boo hoo. ---
**Author:** ![Lfod\_Shi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lfod_shi/32/376240_2.png) [@Lfod\_Shi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lfod_Shi)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2020, 8:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380/204 "2020-04-18T08:13:25Z")
I’ve seen little to no practical difference between pre nerf resists and post nerf running lvl 4s. Last mission I ran, Mordu’s Folly, didn’t even drop below 72% shields. You people really need to fly your ships instead of sitting there like a victim. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2020, 11:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380/205 "2020-04-18T11:35:01Z")
> [@Lfod\_Shi](#): > > Mordu’s Folly, didn’t even drop below 72% shields. You people really need to fly your ships instead of sitting there like a victim. Actually it’s the opposite. People who were over tanked saw no change, while people who were actually flying their ships noticed a difference. ---
**Author:** ![Lfod\_Shi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lfod_shi/32/376240_2.png) [@Lfod\_Shi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lfod_Shi)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2020, 11:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380/206 "2020-04-18T11:37:06Z")
I guess I don’t exist then. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2020, 11:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380/207 "2020-04-18T11:40:14Z")
You are claiming false things. I did the mordu’s with a typhoon and did not even drop in shield, on an armor fit. And I did not use the MJD. BEFORE the patch. Claiming that this is relevant is completely wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Lfod\_Shi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lfod_shi/32/376240_2.png) [@Lfod\_Shi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lfod_Shi)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2020, 11:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380/208 "2020-04-18T11:41:54Z")
I’m claiming my own personal experience. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2020, 11:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380/209 "2020-04-18T11:53:43Z")
And you’re also claiming that it’s relevant to the topic at end, while it is not. ---
**Author:** ![Lfod\_Shi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lfod_shi/32/376240_2.png) [@Lfod\_Shi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lfod_Shi)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2020, 1:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380/210 "2020-04-18T13:41:54Z")
Ok. Whatever you say. Note to self… Remember Internet Rule #1: Never Interact. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2020, 2:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380/211 "2020-04-18T14:17:16Z")
Remember forum rule : don’t make off-topic posts. That’s not a correct form of interaction. ---
**Author:** ![Rexxar\_Santaro](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rexxar_santaro/32/420075_2.png) [@Rexxar\_Santaro](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rexxar_Santaro)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2020, 4:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380/212 "2020-04-18T16:28:00Z")
Combat missions are affetected very little by these resist nerf. Especially if you are using any MJD fits. I don’t see an issue. Just use one or two more expensive modules. I don’t see a serious issue for burner missions even. Almost all my ship fits are the same as previous; I changed my T2 or C-type resistance modules to A- or X-Type. Even Burner Ashimmu isn’t an issue. I did that in a passive Gila. Just get resistances to 77% EM and 70% Therm and like 90hp/s of passive tank. Things become more complex for T5 Abyss, Incursions, Besieged Covert sites, Triglavian invasions, c4-c6 WH, high DED sites like The Maze. The nerf reduced the direct damage reduction and the efficiency of self and remote repairing in addition. That activity requires even more expensive ship modules at the same activity reward level. PVE fleets requires even more ships, and this is an issues also for FOBs or Invasions, when addition ships summons even more NPCs; for Incursions when addition ships reduces the rewards. ---
**Author:** ![Agondray](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/agondray/32/414989_2.png) [@Agondray](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Agondray)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2020, 10:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380/213 "2020-04-18T22:09:16Z")
> [@Rexxar\_Santaro](#): > > Almost all my ship fits are the same as previous; I changed my T2 or C-type resistance modules to A- or X-Type. > [@Rexxar\_Santaro](#): > > Almost all my ship fits are the same as previous; I changed so your claiming your ship fits are almost the same except their not the same because for the same resist you now forced to bling, logic wrong much? you were forced to buy more expensive modules to bring your ship back to a performance level before patch “oh all my ships are almost the same i just needed to spend more isk on tank modules to keep them the same” 🤔 ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2020, 9:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380/214 "2020-04-19T09:01:50Z")
> [@Lfod\_Shi](#): > > Note to self… Remember Internet Rule #1: Never Interact. You actually can; just not with the likes of Andersen. ---
**Author:** ![Herzog\_Wolfhammer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/herzog_wolfhammer/32/452132_2.png) [@Herzog\_Wolfhammer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Herzog_Wolfhammer)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2020, 2:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380/215 "2020-04-21T02:12:58Z")
With drone skills at lvl 5 those get taken out first and at judicious distance while aimed at something to warp to. Precision missiles and painter help. Ah those were the days. But one mistake and it’s kaboomsky. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380.md?page=9) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380.md?page=11)